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Mornington Crescent - Return Ticket

PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
in The Circus
As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been a Mornington Crescent thread on the New Ship™ so far, so maybe it's time there was.

We all know the rules, don't we?

Obviously, as Monday's a Bank Holiday, all stations west of Hammersmith are in Nidd until Tuesday morning (BST).

I'll start us off with:

Canary Wharf

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Comments

  • NOprophet_NØprofitNOprophet_NØprofit Shipmate
    Nope. No idea of the rules. I didn't know canaries bark like dogs. Even if that is a location in England. Will you kindly explain?
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    We all know the rules, don't we?

    I'm sorry. I haven't a clue.
  • Net SpinsterNet Spinster Shipmate
    I think Waterloo is the only good blocker for Piglet's Jubilee opener. We are playing by the Viscount of Kingston rules since nidding was used on the first move?
  • PigwidgeonPigwidgeon Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    We all know the rules, don't we?

    No.
    :frowning:

  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    edited May 2019
    From Waterloo, I'm going to visit the IWM at Lambeth North¹

    Not terribly helpful rule book, slightly more helpful rules from Wikipedia

    ¹ I could suggest Waterloo to Mornington Crescent is possible, but that's going to shut this down immediately.

  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited May 2019
    That was jolly sporting of you, CK, and might even take your nearest station out of Spoon for three rounds.

    I'm grateful for your links, too - I should have realised that it was a silly idea to get the box out of the cupboard when most of the Brits would be tucked up in bed, and our left-side-of-the-Pond friends would be bamboozled.

    Meanwhile, I'm going to play Tower Bridge.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Bbbbbbut ... there isn't a station called Tower Bridge! I think there's only one thing for it - hold on very tight! - Dagenham Heathway. That might just sort us out.

    (By the way, is the London Overground now included?)
  • NOprophet_NØprofitNOprophet_NØprofit Shipmate
    It appears to be an exclusively London England game.. Something about the subway there. That's as much as I can determine. Kind of a fail.
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Baptist Trainfan wrote: »

    (By the way, is the London Overground now included?)

    We're going to need a ruling on whether it's operators, who grants the concession, or owners of the infrastructure who count. Or some combination thereof.


    Willesden Junction     ( subject to the ruling).

  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Nice move. How about a bit of finessing, Baron's Court?
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Enoch wrote: »
    Nice move. How about a bit of finessing, Baron's Court?

    But that implies that you have been in Nidd. And we all know where implications get us.

    South Kensington
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    edited May 2019
    Baptist Trainfan wrote: »
    Bbbbbbut ... there isn't a station called Tower Bridge ...
    Oops ... :blush:

    I really should have consulted a map, shouldn't I?

    Now that I've made a right idiot of myself, I'm going shopping:

    Oxford Circus

    PS Overground stations are usually fine, as long as you have enough green counters left.
  • PigwidgeonPigwidgeon Shipmate
    NOprophet_NØprofit wrote: »
    It appears to be an exclusively London England game.. Something about the subway there. That's as much as I can determine. Kind of a fail.

    I agree. (Except it's not called the subway in London. A subway is a pedestrian tunnel under a street.)
  • Net SpinsterNet Spinster Shipmate
    Nice move Piglet, don't you get three counters for that? I'll do Paddington.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    As Piglet has put anything west of Hammersmith in Nidd, Paddington isn't the best of overground stations to choose, so I'm going around the Circle Line (always assuming it's running this weekend) to Liverpool Street so we can go out to the eastern reaches if we should want.

    (It's not universally a London based game. ISIHAC travels around the country and the game changes too. And my daughter plays by international rules elsewhere online. And if you really want to find out more I did link above to the Wiki article.)
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    Ongar
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    Protest - needs an adjudication. To get to Ongar you need to travel by tube and bus or tube, private bus and steam train. No tube or proper train stop at Ongar and hasn't been since 1996.
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    Protest - needs an adjudication. To get to Ongar you need to travel by tube and bus or tube, private bus and steam train. No tube or proper train stop at Ongar and hasn't been since 1996.

    I was using the 1992 Consolidated Rules.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    We can't be travelling by the 1992 Consolidated Rules, we've already travelled through Canary Wharf which wasn't built until 1999.
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    edited May 2019
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    We can't be travelling by the 1992 Consolidated Rules, we've already travelled through Canary Wharf which wasn't built until 1999.

    I thought that was covered in the addendum to the 1992 Consolidated Rules.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    So why wasn't Ongar taken out in the addendum, if was published after 1999?
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Nerdy tangent:/ Distances on the Underground are still measured from Ongar! Bonkers, isn't it? /: Ends.

    Gillespie Road.

    Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    edited May 2019
    Euston Road

    Central Line distances are measured from Ongar, no point measuring Piccadilly line distances from there
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    Mudchute.

    AG
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    Euston Road

    <sigh>

    Piglet has already had this explained to her, wrt Tower Bridge
    </sigh>

    Charing Cross. That should keep @Baptist Trainfan happy. And at least it's not Aldersgate.

  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited May 2019
    I think CK must have meant to go to Euston Sq (home of uch, where I used to work).
    Is Finchley Central still allowed under the Trumpington variation (our home version)? Or should I go to Bethnal Green?
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    Help me out, yellow team
  • agingjbagingjb Shipmate
    I wouldn't care to try a move without clear ruling on the Viaduct and Flyover variations, (see Dee's Revision of, I suppose, Lyttleton's second collection of Applicable Decisions).
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    No-one should, ever, need to go to Bethnal Green.

    Unless told to be the delectable Samantha, of course.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host
    OK. Pending help for @Heavenlyannie, I’m going for Chancery Lane.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Good choice, with all those lawyers nearby.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    edited May 2019
    @Heavenlyannie @Fawkes Cat Nope, I was responding to Gillespie Road, which is now Arsenal, with Euston Road, which is now Warren Street. But the signs for the original stations were tiled walls and still exist.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    And so I raise you Oxford Street.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    Nope, that one doesn't exist - Oxford Circus, Bond Street or Tottenham Court Road are all on Oxford Street, but no station of that name.
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    @Heavenlyannie @Fawkes Cat Nope, I was responding to Gillespie Road, which is now Arsenal, with Euston Road, which is now Warren Street. But the signs for the original stations were tiled walls and still exist.

    <Checks Wikipedia>

    Well, I never. Every day's a school day.

    Wood Lane
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    Nope, that one doesn't exist - Oxford Circus, Bond Street or Tottenham Court Road are all on Oxford Street, but no station of that name.
    Ah, but it did exist: Tottenham Court Road was originally Oxford Street.

    And, following on from Wood Lane (since we still seem to be stuck in 1910): Post Office.

  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Highgate
  • Leorning CnihtLeorning Cniht Shipmate
    That's a controversial move. Nobody has played Highgate on top of Post Office since the all-division championships in 1937. I think, given that we must be running a reduced Saturday service, I'm forced to play

    High Barnet
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    That's quite brave, LC - especially on a Bank Holiday weekend! It leaves me little choice but

    Dagenham East
  • Net SpinsterNet Spinster Shipmate
    East Ham and double
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    Damn, I forgot to come back and play my move last night and now I’m in Nidd. I’ll pay the fiver and take a chance.

    Old Street.

  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    That's getting far too close - let's take a ride down the Northern Line to South Wimbledon

    (which used to be called Merton. Some of the original signs still exist underground. It is the farthest south you can go underground and is one of the more beautiful art deco stations.)
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Hah! I trump your architecture: Uxbridge.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    You see, that’s what happens when you let the chance of doubling in spades (a measly two points!) distract you from the grand strategy.

    Otherwise, how could you have missed the chance of Holborn? Wide open.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    OK - this is going to create a vortex and could take longer than Brexit.

    I'm presuming the Crich and Cromford (Matlock 1975) Nidd and Spoon ruling is being borne in mind here - keen players will recall dear old Vic Torya playing a three diagonal at the Whatstandwell Village Hall semi-final, and it going all the way to the Lyttleton Committee who eventually ruled that a vortex can be pre-empted by any player with three interchanges in his hand, assuming he declares Northern Line high before playing the fourth.

    So, slight variation on that - Circle is Trumps, and I play Euston

    And to avoid any nastiness, let's pretend the disgraceful scenes at Leamington Spa never happened, eh? I'm sure many here know what I'm referring to.
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    Hmmm ... not so bad as those awful things that happened in Sturminster Newton. Mind you, that was on the old Somerset and Dorset, so probably to have been expected. It was all hushed up at the time, of course.

    Ickenham.
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    Aren't you all forgetting that anything west of Hammersmith is in Nidd until Tuesday morning? That takes Uxbridge and Ickenham out of play (and Leamington Spa and Sturminster Newton. Although I'm not sure where anyone expects to find a station in Stur, the site now being a supermarket and what's left of the railway line a walking route.)

    If we are allowing overground, Lea Bridge
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    Aren't you all forgetting that anything west of Hammersmith is in Nidd until Tuesday morning? That takes Uxbridge and Ickenham out of play

    1) Being in Nidd isn't the same as out of play. Similar, yes, but not the same. Just because they both mean that you can't win doesn't make them the same.
    2) And which Hammersmith? D&P, H&C or the Hammersmith meridian? Surely not Grove Road? These things make a difference.

    Strand

  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    Does that mean you're going to include Brompton Road which hasn't been a station since 1934? At least Blake Hall was still operational until 1981. Or are you referring to Charing Cross? If Charing Cross, how about Elephant and Castle?
  • Fawkes CatFawkes Cat Shipmate
    Curiosity killed wrote: »
    Does that mean you're going to include Brompton Road which hasn't been a station since 1934? At least Blake Hall was still operational until 1981. Or are you referring to Charing Cross? If Charing Cross, how about Elephant and Castle?

    Which Strand (the one that became Aldwych or the one that became part of Charing Cross) is surely self-evident.

    King's Cross St Pancras, Victoria Line south bound
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