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  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    Graven, :lol:
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Golden Key wrote: »
    Might not run out. Both California and Florida grow and sell avocados. And Israeli avocados are shipped in, too.

    But yeah. Yet another stupid thing about the stupid stuff he's threatening/doing. Especially when there's such an avocado fad.

    Just heard California Avocados won't be picked for another month. Considering the amount of tree damage in Florida, we don't expect much of a harvest from them. WE'RE DOOMED!!! Personally, I am avoiding Israeli products. Now if the Avocados come from Palestine--ya I can eat them.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    Stock up on frozen guacamole?
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Avocados are proof that God loves us. Making you run out of them is, IMHO, more than enough grounds for impeachment. :naughty:
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth Mystery Worship Editor
    They're the devil's forbidden fruit. Vile things. Taste like green snot.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Avocados are proof that God has a sense of humor. And she laughs every time someone eats one.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    ...because she *really* made them for herself.
    :)
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    edited April 3
    Can Trump not magic up Avocados from the magic avocado tree? Our PM found a lot of money for Northern Ireland in a magic tree. Surely the leader of the biggest economy in the world can do that with avocados.
    Seriously if we wern’t In such trouble I would be saying something funny about him but we may be making a big deal with him soon. So for now he i s the best president ever. That hair is so natural. Isn’t he so witty? 🙄
  • agingjbagingjb Shipmate
    Avocados are the only food I'm allergic to, so there are more for the rest of you.
  • sionisaissionisais Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Golden Key wrote: »
    Might not run out. Both California and Florida grow and sell avocados. And Israeli avocados are shipped in, too.

    But yeah. Yet another stupid thing about the stupid stuff he's threatening/doing. Especially when there's such an avocado fad.

    Just heard California Avocados won't be picked for another month. Considering the amount of tree damage in Florida, we don't expect much of a harvest from them. WE'RE DOOMED!!! Personally, I am avoiding Israeli products. Now if the Avocados come from Palestine--ya I can eat them.

    Thee best dates on the entire planet come from the West Bank. Some however are grown by Israeli settlers land thieves.
  • PigwidgeonPigwidgeon Shipmate
    They're the devil's forbidden fruit. Vile things. Taste like green snot.

    It's the slimy texture that grosses me out. I have never understood the popularity of them. (I've never tasted green snot, so I can't compare them!)

  • jedijudyjedijudy Heaven Host
    My local source for avocados has disappeared. (BFF's ancient avocado tree mostly taken down by Hurricane Irma.) Sadness and despair.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    So last Tuesday Donald Trump:
    1. Tried three times to say the word "origins" but instead said "oranges". Eventually he gave up and went with "beginnings".
    2. Said that his father had been born in Germany, not New York City.
    3. Said, live on C-SPAN, that he was choosing his words carefully, because otherwise someone would leak the speech to the media.
    4. Claimed that wind farms caused cancer because they were noisy.
    5. Urged Republicans to be "more paranoid" because he "doesn’t like the way the votes are being tallied."

    Items 1-2 happened in a televised appearance at the White House. Items 3-5 during an appearance before the National Republican Congressional Committee. At what point does speculation about his mental fitness become something other than paranoid conspiracy theorizing?
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Grandfather came from Germany, but he wanted to return to Germany. He was refused because he did not serve in the German military. Seems to run in the family--not serving in the military.
    Urged Republicans to be "more paranoid" because he "doesn’t like the way the votes are being tallied."

    I note that nearly all the voter fraud cases I am aware of are Republican. They do seem to have a lock on that activity.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Crœsos wrote: »
    ...Tried three times to say the word "origins" but instead said "oranges"....
    I suppose "orange" is his default setting ... :mrgreen:

    Considering his paranoia about his predecessor's origins*, you'd think he'd be shouting his father's Americanness from the rooftops.

    As to the wind farms, he'll say anything to discredit power that doesn't come from hydrocarbons.

    * or even oranges
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth Mystery Worship Editor
    Crœsos wrote: »
    At what point does speculation about his mental fitness become something other than paranoid conspiracy theorizing?
    (a) When the cows come home.
    (b) When hell freezes over.
    (c) When pigs fly.
    (d) When Congress comes to its senses . . . i.e., when the Democrats regain control of the Senate.
    (e) None of the above.
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    I reckon that sort of speculation became legitimate in or about 1987.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Why does he want his father to have been born in Germany?
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Shipmate
    edited April 4
    He was attempting to claim an affinity with Angela Merkel. Which is quite surprising in itself.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    Or claim connection with a certain regime...to which both his dad and grandad were supposedly somewhat sympathetic...

    Or he may simply want roots.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Golden Key wrote: »
    Or he may simply want roots.

    And what donald wants donald gets. 🙄🙄
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    GOOD NEWS. My AVOCADOS ARE SAVED!!!! After intense pressure from the Republicans and business interests tRump has walked back his threat to close the border. He says he will give Mexico one year to comply with HIS demands or he will start taxing cars produced in Mexico or close the border.

    What this means is the bully has blinked.

    Gives me time to stock up on guacamole. I wonder if you can freeze it.
  • Avocados seem to be mostly Mexican here. They range from $1.50 to $3 each. Alligator pears by any other name.

    Not sure I'm understanding how the anti-Israel comments relate to the topic. I think there's quite enough to be anti about with Fat Nixon.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Someone previously said Israel produces Avocados. I said I do not buy products produced in Israel. Someone else pointed out that the avocados Israel produces likely comes from land Israel had seized from Palestinian land owners. That is why I will not by Israeli avocados. My son spent a year in Palestine and he had us commit to not buying known Israeli products.

    But that can be a topic of another thread.

    I was using the avocado complaint just to show how stupid and how dangerous Trumps ideas can be a la Stephen Colbert.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    [tangent]
    Avocados seem to be mostly Mexican here. They range from $1.50 to $3 each ...
    I reckon you're being done - I got five for $4.99 the other day.
    [/tangent]

  • They're nowhere near local here that's for sure. Them and mangoes. It's all apples kept in the dark and frozen berries while we watch the snow think about melting.

    Agree that the Israel angle has to be another thread. I don't agree with the side taking at all re.

    Meanwhile Donald Turkey-jowels is tilting at windmills.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Somehow Pence doesn’t strike me as Sancho Pansa.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Acording to the news here Donny is pulling back from the statement. He seems to as much able to be trusted as our PM
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    I'd say May is trying to deal with a crisis and Donald tries to create crises. But I defer to locals like you Hugal.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Meanwhile Donald Turkey-jowels is tilting at windmills.
    That's because he hates wind power.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    I'd say May is trying to deal with a crisis and Donald tries to create crises. But I defer to locals like you Hugal.

    As you will have seen on the Brexit threads May has caused s lot of trouble with strong words which she has had now to roll back on. That sounds like Donny Quixote to me.
  • stonespringstonespring Shipmate
    edited April 5
    Boogie wrote: »
    Why does he want his father to have been born in Germany?

    Trump for a long time (maybe even now?) has been (incorrectly) telling people that his father's ancestry was Swedish, not German, because of lingering wariness about Germans, especially in NYC with its large Jewish population, and especially back in the 1970s (when Trump was becoming a household name in the area) when there were quite a few people around who had been alive during the Holocaust, if they were not Holocaust survivors themselves (or relatives of Holocaust survivors).
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    Supposedly, he was *told* that they were Swedish, and didn't know otherwise until some time in adulthood. IIRC, his grandpa started that, because Germans weren't well thought of at the time. (After WW I, maybe?) Original family name was Drumpfen, I think.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited April 8
    Have you heard the latest rant Don the Quiote is harping about. Yep. Windmills. He claims if you live near them your property value goes down. They also cause cancer. And if the wind isn't blowing for three days people will have blackouts. So many problems with these assertions.

    My son said he believes Trump so much that this weekend he tore down his windmill, but it was such hard work that he had to take three smoke breaks.

    CNN's report on the rant.,


  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    I doubt that it is coincidence that he launched into this just after a court ruling that his golf course in Scotland has to pay the legal bills of the Scottish government for its efforts to defend its wind farm off the coast of Scotland that Trump claimed spoiled his view.

    Or, to be blunter, Trump is abusing the office of the Presidency to take revenge for a personal business set-back. If a Democrat did that, the Republicans would be screaming about conflicts of interest. But because a Republican is doing it, they are all as quiet as church mice. Party loyalty beats ethics every time.
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  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    This seems like the kind of thing that's usually cause for concern in countries that aren't the United States:
    In an email to employees at his agency obtained by CNN's Jim Acosta, [ Secret Security director Randolph "Tex" ] Alles told the workforce he was not fired, but was told weeks ago that the administration would be making "transitions in leadership" at the Department of Homeland Security.

    <snip>

    The Secret Service director reports directly to the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen, who resigned on Sunday amid growing pressure from the President. The director oversees the Secret Service's work on both protection and investigations.

    "There is a near-systematic purge happening at the nation's second-largest national security agency," one senior administration official says.

    United States Citizenship and Immigration Services director Francis Cissna and Office of the General Counsel's John Mitnick are expected to be gone soon, and the White House is eyeing others to be removed.

    Sudden and unexpected purging "transitions in leadership" of the security forces is rarely an omen of good things.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    Welcome to the old Soviet Union, comrade.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Note, whenever someone resigns or is fired, Trump names an acting (position). He is not naming a permanent name so the nominee will not face confirmation by the Senate. Moreover acting chiefs cannot set up their own staff thus they have to rely more on Trump.

    Lately, tRump is saying America is full. He even said that at the Young Republican Jewish Convocation. Problem is before WWII when thousands of German Jews tried to escape to the US on the St. Louis, they were turned away. The excuse was "America is too full."

    Seems like the Young Jews do not know their own history.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    I doubt that it is coincidence that he launched into this just after a court ruling that his golf course in Scotland has to pay the legal bills of the Scottish government for its efforts to defend its wind farm off the coast of Scotland that Trump claimed spoiled his view.

    Or, to be blunter, Trump is abusing the office of the Presidency to take revenge for a personal business set-back. If a Democrat did that, the Republicans would be screaming about conflicts of interest. But because a Republican is doing it, they are all as quiet as church mice. Party loyalty beats ethics every time.

    None of them can afford to have the press looking too closely at conflicts of interest. Fortunately for them the press is happy to turn a blind eye.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Golden Key wrote: »
    Welcome to the old Soviet Union, comrade.
    No welcome to the new Soviet Union comrade
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    Welcome to China - they are currently subjecting millions of people to their form of free education in schools, and muslims get in for half price. Then there's the shit they pull on ethnic chinese living overseas - some even born overseas and with one non-chinese parent. They are bad bad bad, the Chinese Communists.
  • Wesley JWesley J Shipmate
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    [...] the shit they pull on ethnic chinese living overseas - some even born overseas and with one non-chinese parent. They are bad bad bad, the Chinese Communists.
    Could please provide a source/sources for this? I am not sure what this is about. - Thank you. (NB. Perhaps China deserves its own thread, at some point?)

  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    I haven't read this article fully Wesley, but it seems to be putting a balanced view of what's happening in Australia and is from a reputable source. It can be mined for more info through its copious links. I personally hate what the Chinese Communist Party does to its people and am extremely biased. I think another thread is warranted. If I get some time later today I will finish looking at this article and use it as the kick-off point for a new thread.
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    The stuff about harassing people from mixed backgrounds came from an interview I saw on TV of an Aussie with partly chinese heritage who was a china specialist working for a think-tank. He was getting it because he was chinese (in the eyes of the Party) and commenting on political issues in china. "It" included threats on social media etc, and open tails.
  • AnselminaAnselmina Shipmate
    But seriously - re: Avocados. They don't have a taste?! Do they?
  • Wesley JWesley J Shipmate
    Thanks, Mr Toad. :)
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited April 10
    Right after tRump had threatened to close the border, the shipments of avocados to the US from Mexico doubled. Now we have a glut of avocados.

    Note to Anselmina: Avocados do have a slight taste, but we NorteAmericanos (North Americans) like to use them for guacamole in which you mash them and add spices to them. Also used in salads. And they can be used to tamp down other spicy foods.
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    At the moment I am trimming the pine trees up the back with two types of motorised saws and repairing fences. I come here to rest, and go off when things engage me. I'm not up to posting really important threads like the one on China suggested above. This may change, but I don't think it will till Mid-may, when I come back from leave.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    tRump is now considering dumping undocumented South Americans in sanctuary cities. A little vindictive shall we say?
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