The Prayers of the Faithful 2020

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  • 🕯Prayers for Scooby. My heart goes out to you. I think I would spend my whole life with headphones on, listening to anything but the banging.

    🕯Prayers for daughter Erin, may all go well.

    Lord, in your mercy, hear our prayers.
  • Praying for all 🕯
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    edited June 2020
    I don't understand why a court would not order that the noisy tenant leave. Obviously there are problems for that tenant, but those should not be visited on neighbours. Perhaps Scooby himself could apply to a court or tenancy tribunal for orders that the landlord take appropriate action. But he will need to get the sort of evidence described.
  • It's horribly difficult to get housing association tenants out, especially if there are children and known needs. The solution may be rehousing the upstairs tenant, but that assumes there is available social housing to do so, while keeping the children in the right area for schools and all the other needs. So sorry @OriginalScooby

    (We're still waiting for an incredibly disruptive neighbour move, even though he's anti-socially noisy and a total interfering pain. He had the eviction notice over 10 months ago after months of complaints, diary entries and police involvement, and it took nearly eighteen months to get the tenant who assaulted me out - that one had to wait for the assault hearing to go through first and then the eviction notice to stick.)
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    Gee D wrote: »
    I don't understand why a court would not order that the noisy tenant leave. Obviously there are problems for that tenant, but those should not be visited on neighbours. Perhaps Scooby himself could apply to a court or tenancy tribunal for orders that the landlord take appropriate action. But he will need to get the sort of evidence described.

    Although she freely admits to the noise, I have been told that the courts would not issue an eviction notice because she claims that there is no malicious intent and the banging isn't being done deliberately. The Housing Association has admitted that it is the most difficult case they have had to try and resolve. They are in constant contact with her by phone and have written many letters to try and see how they can help mediate the situation.

    They will support me if I go back on the housing list or apply for an exchange when my situation and health allows.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Surely this is beyond the stage of phone contact or writing letters. I accept that it is difficult to obtain orders against a social housing tenant - but that does not mean it is impossible. I'm surprised that the housing authority is not taking much more positive action than that described.
  • The housing association have a duty to house that mother and children so long as there is no malice in the children's behaviour; unless they have suitable alternative accommodation for that family they cannot move them somewhere else. And suitable alternative accommodation would include access to the same schools. As far as this goes, the family are not breaching conditions of their tenancy when the children's special needs are taken into account.

    It's not like my neighbour playing loud music and or TV into the early hours and shouting or singing alongside it. That counts as a deliberate act. It's children with special needs banging and crashing around.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Praying for Erin and a safe delivery

    Praying for @OriginalScooby in a horrible situation

    My friend's L's husband came through risky brain surgery and is now stable but not yet fully conscious. She is unable to be at his side in hospital and can't reach his physician by phone. Like many happily married couples, they have rarely spent a night apart and L is distracted with worry. More prayers for K and L would be appreciated.

    For all in need of prayer
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    MaryLouise wrote: »
    Praying for Erin and a safe delivery

    Praying for @OriginalScooby in a horrible situation

    My friend's L's husband came through risky brain surgery and is now stable but not yet fully conscious. She is unable to be at his side in hospital and can't reach his physician by phone. Like many happily married couples, they have rarely spent a night apart and L is distracted with worry. More prayers for K and L would be appreciated.

    For all in need of prayer

    Prayers ascending.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Prayers ascending for all in need, especially MaryLouise's K and L; Tree Bee's Erin and Original Scooby.

    That really is a difficult one; is there any possibility of the neighbours being housed somewhere where the children's noise would be less of an issue?
  • Crumbs. @OriginalScooby what a tricky situation. Wisdom for your housing officer and heavenward wafting prayers for you....
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    Thank you @Ethne Alba
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    Prayers for K and L 🕯 and continuing for mum and baby 🕯and for @OriginalScooby 🕯
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    Many thanks @Doone, @MaryLouise, @Piglet, @Gee D, @Curiosity killed, @Ethne Alba & everyone else for your prayers and kind words.

    As I said, this is a really difficult situation, not only for me, but also for the woman and her kids and the Housing Association. For her, the boys are just behaving as is normal for children with their conditions. Her own mental health makes life for them even more difficult. The Housing Association are doing their utmost to provide me with support and are trying to mediate and find a solution. I can only go by what they have said that it would be unlikely for the courts to evict her. The simplest solution is for me to move as soon as it becomes possible for me given my own physical health and disabilities.

    Bless you all and thanks again for taking time to pray. X
  • @OriginalScooby this really sucks. I side with the others that the solution is to appropriately rehome the problem family because the next occupant of your unit is going to be faced with the same affliction.

    Praying for your best outcome.

    Also for Erin and a safe healthy delivery.

    AFF
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    @ A Feminine Force thank you for your prayers.

    Actually, the best solution for me is to be the one who moves. I absolutely hate the flat. There is always trouble in the block and the road. The police are frequently having to attend for one thing or another. On occasion, they have even been armed.

    I'd only been here a few months when I had my front door kicked open and was assaulted by three men from a house on the same street. The Crown Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute them. I don't feel at all safe here even without the noise and anti-social behaviour from above. She has also flooded my flat on four separate occasions, most recently last month when all my electrics were shorted out and every socket and junction box had to be replaced.

    I don't want to live here anymore, I absolutely loath the place, but my health and the current pandemic make it impossible to move anytime soon.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    The housing association have a duty to house that mother and children so long as there is no malice in the children's behaviour; unless they have suitable alternative accommodation for that family they cannot move them somewhere else. And suitable alternative accommodation would include access to the same schools. As far as this goes, the family are not breaching conditions of their tenancy when the children's special needs are taken into account.

    It's not like my neighbour playing loud music and or TV into the early hours and shouting or singing alongside it. That counts as a deliberate act. It's children with special needs banging and crashing around.

    How is a young and possibly autistic child malicious?

    What the authority does have is a duty to Scooby to take action to ensure that his use of his flat is undisturbed. The family upstairs has problems, yes, but those should be dealt with by providing suitable accommodation for them, and not at Scooby's cost.
  • For J. Who is too old and too frail to be stuck in hospital right now.
  • The more you explain your situation, @OriginalScooby, the more concerned I become. May God bless you and keep you.
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    @Robert Armin Thanks ever so much.

  • The more you explain your situation, @OriginalScooby, the more concerned I become. May God bless you and keep you.

    Me too. This is not healthy for anyone it seems. I hope intervention comes swiftly and from unforeseen sources.

    AFF
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    Gee D wrote: »
    The housing association have a duty to house that mother and children so long as there is no malice in the children's behaviour; unless they have suitable alternative accommodation for that family they cannot move them somewhere else. And suitable alternative accommodation would include access to the same schools. As far as this goes, the family are not breaching conditions of their tenancy when the children's special needs are taken into account.

    It's not like my neighbour playing loud music and or TV into the early hours and shouting or singing alongside it. That counts as a deliberate act. It's children with special needs banging and crashing around.

    How is a young and possibly autistic child malicious?

    What the authority does have is a duty to Scooby to take action to ensure that his use of his flat is undisturbed. The family upstairs has problems, yes, but those should be dealt with by providing suitable accommodation for them, and not at Scooby's cost.

    She also plays loud music and shouts and that is on top of her boys' behaviour issues. She has flooded my flat four times without apology. She is constantly engaging in other anti-social behaviour too which has been reported by numerous other tenants as well as myself.

    Whatever her circumstances are, "everyone has the right to peace and quiet and enjoyment of their own home without excessive disturbance from others. Nuisance neighbours can disturb a person's enjoyment of their home, and inconsiderate behaviour can even be detrimental to health."

    As soon as my health and circumstances allow, I will be putting myself on the list for a transfer to somewhere where I can live in peace without all the aggravation. The Housing Association have said they will support this and make sure I am given top priority. It's a shame I can't do this right now. I'm simply not physically well enough to be able to cope with yet more upheaval.

    Thanks for all the prayers.

  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    <votive> For @OriginalScooby
    <votive> For Baby Beaky
    <votive> Praying through, for all, by name
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    OriginalScooby - is there a legal aid office/community legal centre you can visit for some free advice, and perhaps more concrete assistance in either making your present living more comfortable or getting you moved into into suitable accommodation?
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Prayers
  • OriginalScoobyOriginalScooby Shipmate Posts: 38
    Gee D wrote: »
    OriginalScooby - is there a legal aid office/community legal centre you can visit for some free advice, and perhaps more concrete assistance in either making your present living more comfortable or getting you moved into into suitable accommodation?

    I'm shielding at the moment, so not able to go out.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Would it be worth contacting your local Citizens' Advice Bureau?

    Prayers continuing - your situation really sucks great festering goose-balls!
  • praying for all
  • For J , (who is elderly , frail and stuck in hospital)...... and now unwell.

    For J’s family and friends who are now shattered, confused and don’t know what to think.

    Lord in your mercy......
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    <votive> For J, and family
    <votive> Prayers ascending for all in need
    <votive> Of your mercy, I ask your prayers for my friend C. She also has breast cancer that has metastasized into her bones. She is in terrible pain, and suddenly lost 90% of her hearing, along with her senses of smell and taste, and her tongue and lips are numb. An MRI showed that she has lesions pressing on the relevant parts of her brain, causing all those effects; she doesn't yet know what treatment will be suggested for them. (I'm hoping they can zap them, as they did my brain tumor; she has the same radiation oncologist.) She saw a pain specialist for shots to help with that, but so far it hasn't done much more than take the edge off it. She's a bright and cheerful woman, and it hurts to see her in such bad shape.

    Please pray for her husband, K, as well. He's having a very hard time dealing with this.

  • For J, C and K. All best outcomes for them I beg of you dear friend Jesus.

    AFF
  • NiteowlNiteowl Shipmate
    Reading and praying for all in need. 🕯
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    Praying 🕯🕯🕯
  • GalilitGalilit Shipmate
    Re: C (and K) Oh the poor thing - she must be in total shock
    Prayers ascending ...
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  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Praying for all on this thread.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Prayers continuing to ascend for all in need.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    <votive> Prayers ascending for all Shipmates and their concerns
    <votive> Prayers ascending for all in need

    Today I had my second MRI of the week, as assorted docs try to figure out what's causing the crippling pains in my left leg. Being stuck in a cylindrical coffin for 70 minutes at a time with various machine gun-like poundings is not good for concentration (even with earplugs in addition to headphones), but it works very well for things like the Jesus Prayer.
  • PendragonPendragon Shipmate
    I had an MRI last year to make sure that my optical neuritis was just something of unknown origin, and fixed by steroids, and not the first sign of MS. It was completely clear on that front, but I found the noises it made were truly weird.

    Praying for all on this thread and those who are engaged in the great headache of safely reopening places and services.
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Amen to these prayers.
  • MaryLouiseMaryLouise Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Praying through.
  • JapesJapes Shipmate
    Adding my prayers for those trying to safely negotiate the re-opening of places of worship. It's been a nightmare of miscommunication and assumptions around my parts and I have voted with my feet this morning to stay home until it is clearer. (As in, don't tell the entire world I will be there playing whilst the church is open if I've not been asked!)

    Whilst I am delighted for those who want to go into church for "private prayer" I personally struggle with the enthusiasm for this because, frankly, I seem to have been far better disciplined about praying regularly recently, and don't need to be told I'm allowed back in the building to do so.
  • Praying for all 🕯
    I have appointments in cardiology tomorrow for an echocardiogram and a 24 hour ECG. Please pray for answers to my ongoing issues with heart rate.
  • Praying for @Heavenlyannie 🕯
  • NiteowlNiteowl Shipmate
    Praying for all in need. 🕯
  • GalilitGalilit Shipmate
    Heavenly Annie
  • AmosAmos Shipmate
    Reading through and praying through.
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Lord, have mercy.
  • Well , J is still here.
    Been sent hither and yon (which seems bizarre under the current circumstances but what do I know...), had a couple of sessions under the surgeon’s tender care, but has less tubes and trailing appendages with each passing day.
    J s family, friends and community are astonished. Prayers continue!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    {{{Heavenlyannie}}}

    Prayers ascending for all in need.
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