Trumpton - the rant thread

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  • Hard cider for me.
  • Baileys, and a lot of chocolate because the news from America has been about the only thing go well today.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    ... I raished a glash to Mr Biden, and will do sho again when I'm shober enuff...
    Are you sure you weren't combining it with toasting the memory of Sir Sean Connery? :mrgreen:

    I, too have raised a glass to Mr. Biden, and wish him all the very best.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    ... I raished a glash to Mr Biden, and will do sho again when I'm shober enuff...
    Are you sure you weren't combining it with toasting the memory of Sir Sean Connery? :mrgreen:

    I, too have raised a glass to Mr. Biden, and wish him all the very best.

    Yesh, poshibly... *hic*
  • Drinking bourbon. Because I am an American.
  • Rye whiskey. Also because American.
  • bassobasso Shipmate
    A customer came through my lane today with a cart that included about six bottles of bubbly. He said that they'd killed the household supply this morning.
  • To salute America, especially Italian Americans, I am having a Godfather. Its two parts whiskey and one part Disaronno, a marzipan flavoured liqueur from Italy. Bene!
  • In the evening, my wife and I watched the 1993 film, 'Dave' which (you may remember) is about the victory of decency over corruption in the White House. We slept well. Today I shall (whilst social distancing) sing a psalm of praise.
  • wonderful!!!! I had cause to look up the shower scene! Hail to the Chief He's the one we all say hail to!
  • Boris will have to do some nifty footwork.
  • How are everyone's heads this morning?
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth 8th Day Host, Mystery Worship Editor
    As tightly screwed on as it ever was. I had no alcohol in the house but I did consume what was left of a blackberry/raspberry pie (a little less than half of it was left). This morning I'll attend the neighborhood Lutheran church, despite recent remarks made about Luther on another thread, and ask the pastor if singing a Te Deum is part of Lutheran practice.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    basso wrote: »
    A customer came through my lane today with a cart that included about six bottles of bubbly. He said that they'd killed the household supply this morning.

    And they were still in a fit state to drive to the shop to buy more? :astonished:
  • Schroedingers CatSchroedingers Cat Shipmate, Waving not Drowning Host
    I think this is the right place to say:

    Good fucking riddance to the utter turd Trump. Go fuck yourself. And I hope you rot in prison, you utterly corrupt, senile, degenerate pile of shit.
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth 8th Day Host, Mystery Worship Editor
    Amen. Alleluia.
  • Do they make action figures of ex-presidents? Thinking sort of like Barbie and Ken dolls but smaller hands and more orange.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    I would like to wish Donald good luck in his future career. He has s going to need it.
  • The only way they'll get his out of the White House is in a strait-jacket.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    edited November 2020
    Or sedated
  • "Sir, we've protected you while you were President but now it's over and it's our duty to escort you from the premises. Our orders require us to record video footage as evidence of you leaving peacefully and legally, in case of later dispute. Assuming you leave peacefully the inside footage of your departure won't become public. Do you understand sir?"
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth 8th Day Host, Mystery Worship Editor
    They will drag him out in handcuffs if necessary.
  • Do they make action figures of ex-presidents? Thinking sort of like Barbie and Ken dolls but smaller hands and more orange.

    With a small supply of pins.
  • Hugal wrote: »
    Or sedated

    Tranquilizer dart!
  • Wasn't there a spoof (but very realistic) video on YouTube a while back which showed The Mad God-King being marched forcibly out of the White House?
  • A group of us (6-10) from undergrad started doing Zoom cocktails this year. One of us, "J.", is an intelligent, staunch, lifelong Republican, currently living in NYC. We had our Zoom last Monday, and I interrogated J. as to his feelings about the GOP and the election. He was shockingly candid. He and I then had an email exchange Saturday morning, before PA had declared for Biden. Some highlights from J.:

    * the GOP is completely rudderless
    * Mitch McConnell is a force of evil and believes in nothing but power for its own sake
    * Lindsey Graham is an embarrassment and has no honour (as I said to J., Graham's conscience was on McCain's life support)
    * [almost verbatim] Trump in a second term would have been Trump for life and the death of American democracy
    * it would be for the best that the GOP self-immolate, and the conservatives begin anew.

    For many shipmates these are commonly held, but for a conservative Republican to say these things I found tremendously refreshing. And, given the source, an acidic indictment.
  • * it would be for the best that the GOP self-immolate, and the conservatives begin anew.

    The last time one of America's two major political parties imploded was in the 1850s when the Whig party (American edition) tore itself apart by trying to be the party of both southern slaveholders and northern free soilers. The northern free soil faction became part of what we now know as the Republican party.
  • --Dark chocolate was the manner of celebration here. :)

    --So thrilled about Joe and Kamala. May they be kept safe and sound, and have good, skilled, and dedicated security.

    --May T be calm/medicated enough from here until months after the inauguration not to do any more damage to anyone or anything. (Probly LOTS of meds.) May he get all the many kinds of help he needs; live a quiet and peaceful life; find the place of his best good; never harm anyone again; and do some small good things. And may he be happy in a healthy way.

    --If we're going to start new political parties, perhaps something like "Women Arise", with a logo/avatar of Abigail Adams, wife of Pres. John Adams. She counseled him to "Remember the ladies" in creating the founding documents and laws, and said they wouldn't feel the need to obey any laws that didn't include them!
    :)

    --Maybe a children's political party, to vote on things that specifically affect them? Climate change; affordable housing; medical care for all; food and housing for all, including those currently unhoused/homeless; school funding; other school issues; animal protection; and free ice cream (dairy, non-dairy, sorbet) or other dessert for all, once a week.
    :)
  • However the man leaves the White House, I hope they do a deep clean before Biden enters. To many in that building have been reported to have had the Virus.
  • Crœsos wrote: »
    * it would be for the best that the GOP self-immolate, and the conservatives begin anew.

    The last time one of America's two major political parties imploded was in the 1850s when the Whig party (American edition) tore itself apart by trying to be the party of both southern slaveholders and northern free soilers. The northern free soil faction became part of what we now know as the Republican party.

    Indeed. This was part of my exchange with J. He and I both well versed in our history. But thanks.
  • Do they make action figures of ex-presidents? Thinking sort of like Barbie and Ken dolls but smaller hands and more orange.

    Yes. I don't have an Obama one, but I do have a Hillary Clinton dress up doll and, of course, some Dump Trump loo paper.
  • A group of us (6-10) from undergrad started doing Zoom cocktails this year. One of us, "J.", is an intelligent, staunch, lifelong Republican, currently living in NYC. We had our Zoom last Monday, and I interrogated J. as to his feelings about the GOP and the election. He was shockingly candid. He and I then had an email exchange Saturday morning, before PA had declared for Biden. Some highlights from J.:

    * the GOP is completely rudderless
    * Mitch McConnell is a force of evil and believes in nothing but power for its own sake
    * Lindsey Graham is an embarrassment and has no honour (as I said to J., Graham's conscience was on McCain's life support)
    * [almost verbatim] Trump in a second term would have been Trump for life and the death of American democracy
    * it would be for the best that the GOP self-immolate, and the conservatives begin anew.

    For many shipmates these are commonly held, but for a conservative Republican to say these things I found tremendously refreshing. And, given the source, an acidic indictment.

    What an encouraging conversation. I have been trying to identify who Conservatives could rally around. My thinking is those politicians who got out while the getting was good - Priebus, McGahn, and Ryan. But really I'm just plucking names out of the air.
  • Ryan has not shown himself to be a shining example of political rectitude.
  • One can't expect perfection when considering conservative political leaders...
  • To be fair, conservatives have no monopoly on 'flexibility.'
  • Why has the despicable Orange Turd in the White House been given an easy time in Hell since November? He lost the election badly and spent the last two months whining that really he won. He's done nothing of any value but stirring trouble and saying he's been robbed. Meanwhile while Coronavirus deaths have risen to over 300,000 people and he's so self-absorbed and clinging to false narrative that he won.

    He's ordered Pence to refuse to accept the result in Congress today but Pence found his backbone and refused. He (trump) incited his knuckledraggers to march to the Capitol and they've taken over the building!

    Some insults must be due here.


  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    There are not words bad enough. There is nothing harsh enough to convey the feelings.
  • There is some suggestion that the 25th Amendment is under active consideration ...
  • Pangolin GuerrePangolin Guerre Shipmate
    edited January 7
    If he's removed under the 25th, it would preclude any criminal prosecution. If Congress moves quickly, as Croesus pointed out on a different thread, impeachment could be done by COB Friday.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited January 7
    What would happen to him, then, if he were removed under the 25th? Would he become simply another citizen?
  • Heck, I'd like it if Congress met all night tonight, just for that. Then they can take Thurs. off and sleep in.
  • Get him OUT in any way and sort out the charges afterward. I’m fairly sure you can impeach even after he’s out. And if not, the jaws of a thousand jurisdictions open wide for him...
  • Martin54Martin54 Shipmate
    Why has the despicable Orange Turd in the White House been given an easy time in Hell since November? He lost the election badly and spent the last two months whining that really he won. He's done nothing of any value but stirring trouble and saying he's been robbed. Meanwhile while Coronavirus deaths have risen to over 300,000 people and he's so self-absorbed and clinging to false narrative that he won.

    He's ordered Pence to refuse to accept the result in Congress today but Pence found his backbone and refused. He (trump) incited his knuckledraggers to march to the Capitol and they've taken over the building!

    Some insults must be due here.

    He isn't clinging to a false narrative. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's a fascist traitor poisoning democracy.
  • A mob of the MAGA persuasion
    Conducted a Capitol invasion.
    Though heavily armed,
    They parted unharmed,
    And that's how you know they're Caucasian.

    (Random social media limerick about adolf trump and co)
  • If he's removed under the 25th, it would preclude any criminal prosecution. If Congress moves quickly, as Croesus pointed out on a different thread, impeachment could be done by COB Friday.

    "Impeachment" is simply an indictment, which sends the case to The Senate for a trial, which would not be completed before the 20th, I'm sure, making it moot ...
  • If he's removed under the 25th, it would preclude any criminal prosecution. If Congress moves quickly, as Croesus pointed out on a different thread, impeachment could be done by COB Friday.

    "Impeachment" is simply an indictment, which sends the case to The Senate for a trial, which would not be completed before the 20th, I'm sure, making it moot ...

    I'm acquiescing to Croesus's expertise on this. He says that if they have the will to move expeditiously, it can be done so.
  • If he's removed under the 25th, it would preclude any criminal prosecution. If Congress moves quickly, as Croesus pointed out on a different thread, impeachment could be done by COB Friday.

    "Impeachment" is simply an indictment, which sends the case to The Senate for a trial, which would not be completed before the 20th, I'm sure, making it moot ...

    I'm acquiescing to Croesus's expertise on this. He says that if they have the will to move expeditiously, it can be done so.

    The "they" would have to be Republicans ... "They" will just wait for the next two weeks, after which time The (ex)Emperor will be golfing full time (rather than half-time, as in the last four years) ...
  • Pence's late in the day refusal to respond to his boss's dogwhistle has nothing to do with him suddenly gaining a backbone and everything to do with a swift recognition that its CYA time, plus some swift calculation that positioning himself as a moderate Trumpist will leave the door open for him to run in 2024 while retaining some support from the Trump base of militiamen, supporters of the Confederacy and QA loons.

    In his own, gnomic way, Pence is the equal of Trump and has a few more brain cells.
  • W HyattW Hyatt Shipmate
    edited January 7
    If he's removed under the 25th, it would preclude any criminal prosecution. If Congress moves quickly, as Croesus pointed out on a different thread, impeachment could be done by COB Friday.

    "Impeachment" is simply an indictment, which sends the case to The Senate for a trial, which would not be completed before the 20th, I'm sure, making it moot ...

    Actually, it wouldn't be moot even if it took place after Trump is no longer president. As I understand it, the Senate has two separate votes after a House impeachment to produce two results: one result is whether or not the individual is to be removed from office (which would indeed be moot at that point), but the other result is whether or not the individual can ever again hold that office, which would not be moot for a one-term president.
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