The Untied Kingdom? - the British thread 2021

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  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I am an idiot. I decided to throw any semblance of chicness to the winds, and bought a lightweight, but quilted coat with a hood, in the same size as the nice warm coat I bought before Christmas, and the bloody thing doesn't fit, so I'll have to schlepp back to Marks and Sparks tomorrow* and exchange it.

    Why the **** can't they standardise their sizes? :rage:

    * when, obviously, sn*w is forecast.
  • Ah well - before Christmas was pre-Brexshit, now is post-Brexshit...

    I'll get me (pre-Brexshit) coat...

    Seriously, though, it is annoying, so hopefully the sn*w will hold off until you've had a chance to get to the shop.
  • I have a bad back and can't bed to empty crates put on the floor, so I put a picnic table up in the (enclosed) porch. Some drivers put the crates down and lift the goods onto the table,some put the crates on the table and I empty them into prepared bags.
    Fresh meat and frozen items are generally put into their flimsy carrier bags, as are the smaller loose vegetables - and, in my last delivery, the bread from the in-store bakery. 3 small loaves,cellophane wrapped in one carrier, one walnut loaf, cellophane wrapped in another carrier and 4 bread rolls, each in a separate paper bag, in yet another.

    Today I am having great trouble placing an order for next week.
    This morning I got a slot for my preferred day and time, got halfway through my order and the site semi-froze. 'Semi' inasmuch as it would get me so far, but not into the place where I could actually see the food categories. I was able to find the item I wanted if I used the 'search' box, so continued shopping until I had reached the minimum spend needed, but then it completely refused to take me to the checkout. I have been trying on and off all day. It is frozen with my trolley still full, but I presume that will all be gone when I can finally get a fully live connection, and probably 'my' slot will be gone too :(
  • NenyaNenya Shipmate
    Oh, that's really annoying @Heavenlyannie - it's difficult enough to get a slot at the best of times, in my experience at least.

    I appreciate everyone's advice and will let you know how we get on with the delivery next Monday.

    I've been wrapping Christmas presents this afternoon - for a long overdue parcel to be sent up north to Nenlet2 and his partner. They were originally coming here for Christmas, which didn't happen of course, and his main present has been waiting here (don't ask, long story) for onward transmission, packed around with as many of the stocking fillers as we can fit.

    It's fish pie for tea. :smile:
  • Dormouse wrote: »
    I am still trolling off to Car-4 (Carrefour)and Lidl for shopping - we're not confined here in France (YET) It's generally okay, despite the I-don't-know-how-to-wear-a-mask wearers, who I edge away from. But I went to a new Lidl the day it opened. That was an unpleasant experience as Le Monde et sa Femme (the world and his wife) were jostling in the aisles. If I hadn't needed food I might have just left. I didn't catch anything (as far as I know)

    Surely in these days of égalité, it is Le Monde et sa Femme/son Mari/son Épouse/son ou sa Partenair(e)... but then you might never get out of the door, never mind the supermarket!
  • Clothes sizing has always been a challenge for me...am I this size? Or that one? And, as I have lost weight, should I now be the other?? Bah.
    And, as for buying knickers that fit....without being able to try them on at all ever (even pre-lockdown), well, don't get me started......M&S used to do some that fitted and were comfortable, but they have redesigned their ranges and renamed them too and now they are neither. Five brand new pairs still on their hangers have made their way to the local women's refuge. And the 6th pair (which I measured against one of the old pairs but never tried on...) wen the same way.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    You'll all be pleased to know that I've found a substitute dining table and ordered same from Wayfair, who say it'll be delivered next Tuesday. As I'm taking the early part of next week off work, that would work out rather well, and it looks as if it might not be too complicated to put together (famous last words).
  • Wesley JWesley J Shipmate
    edited February 3
    Hurray for a substitute dining table! :)

    Clothes sizes are indeed a strange beast, aren't they. - My taylorette/seamstress person, who is very good at her job and always provides sensible advice, thinks that clothes sizes can slightly vary even within the same brand and product range!

    I've also found that some stated sizes seem to change over the years, especially for shirts: a few I've had for years in one size are still rather big for me now, whereas some more recent shirts from the same maker, and purportedly the same size are less generously cut these days. This seems to be an observation shared by my seamstress lady.

    Strange, isn't it. My commiserations to those venturing into online purchasing (as we oft do, or have to do, these days)! I've been very lucky with shoes so far regarding sizing and buying online - fingers crossed! I'd really love to go and try them on first, but that's not always possible.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I've been very lucky with online shoe-buying; I've had three pairs over the years and they've all fitted very well.
    ION, it's a filthy day - very Wit and Wendy, as BF would say, and I was a very soggy piglet by the time I got to the station.

    🌧️😟☔

    Could be worse - there's probably sn*w in Embra.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Nah. Just more sleety rain.
  • Light drizzle here. The engineer is coming this morning to give us a verdict on the heating. We are fully prepared that he may well tell us it needs replacing (back boilers in chimneys being obsolete these days). But at least we have hot water.
    I need to prep for a tutorial for next week and have a chat with my co-tutor. Today I also should start some marking but I’m not in the mood so I will probably dedicate tomorrow to it.
  • I once returned a pair of jeans which I had bought without trying on as they were supposedly identical to the pair I was wearing. The salesperson told me that the garments were cut out in huge swathes and sometimes those at one end or other of the cut - top layer or bottom or near that - would be cut a little askew so would come out just that bit smaller. Or something like that. Which is probably why this is more of a problem in lower-end priced shops.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Mr weatherforecaster promised a dryer day today. Nope - just steady rain. ☔️

    I’m thankful for good waterproofs - ‘tho putting them all on is a faff!

    I’ve even got a raincoat for Echo. My Tatze’s fur coat is waterproof as Labs were bred in Newfoundland for retrieving fishermens’ floats. One shake and she’s dry. In weather like this Echo would be a soggy doggy for hours without his raincoat. - and he does love to drape himself over my knee!
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    I was told, after one poor purchase in M&S, that Per Una had a different sizing from the basic M&S ranges. smaller, as it happened.
  • This is not encouraging for me!

    I have not bought any new or even second hand clothes for over a year now and the day is fast approaching when I must order online
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    Lands End, I must mention, have shrunk their sizes. Their cord trousers used to have huge hips/thighs and minute waists, and now, "same" sizes, have minute both. Supposed "American" sizing, but having seen a lot of Americans on news footage, i don't believe it. (Probably OK for MTG, though.)
  • Baptist TrainfanBaptist Trainfan Shipmate
    edited February 3
    Penny S wrote: »
    I was told, after one poor purchase in M&S, that Per Una had a different sizing from the basic M&S ranges. smaller, as it happened.

    My wife was told that, too.

    I find Primark clothes strange: their sweaters have narrow, but very long, arms.

    PS The sun is out (not entirely convincingly!). I walked to the supermarket and one front garden - north-facing at that - had small daffodils beginning to flower.
  • Ethne AlbaEthne Alba Shipmate
    edited February 3
    @Baptist Trainfan , the last piece of clothing bought second hand for this household was a Pixie type sweater- with inexplicably long narrow sleeves.

    I am told it was a fashion statement.


    All I know is that the blood supply to my arms are cut off, should I attempt to struggle into it.

    Kindnesses To Charity Shop Staff dictate this item of clothing will Not be returned
  • Wesley JWesley J Shipmate
    edited February 3
    Have you thought of converting your sweater into a (perhaps sleeveless) t-shirt? Just wondering. I once had that done by a professional to a comfy old and warm jeans jacket of mine. I still have that today, and it's occasionally used as a gilet around the house. :)
  • Engineer currently in the loft. Sounds like we will be having a combi boiler in the airing cupboard with a flue going through the loft. Husband in discussion as to when...
  • @Heavenlyannie the downside to that is that if the boiler fails for any reason, no hot water (and you can't have an immersion heater for emergencies!)
  • Yes, but our house has few options as we are a terrace lacking in outside walls to cite a flue so it will have to go through the roof anyway. Putting it in the airing cupboard is also the easiest for access in a small overcrowded house.
  • @Wesley J
    A very good idea, especially as Mr Alba bought it for me
    😉
  • Curiosity killedCuriosity killed Shipmate
    edited February 3
    British sizing has got bigger over the years - inconsistency between sizing is a different issue.

    If you try making vintage patterns, even as recent as the 1980s, not going back as far as the 1940s or 1950s, you'll find that a size 10 in 1980 is roughly the equivalent of a current size 4 or 6. I haven't changed in size much since I was 18, recently made a dress and jacket set I made for a do around then to test it and wore it without problem. I was wearing size 8 or 10 bottoms in 1980, size 10 or 12 tops. I am now wearing size 4 or 6 bottoms, 6 or 8 tops. (Well, in real life I'm either making my own clothes or wearing kids' sizes, because I'm a titch and most shops don't stock that small.)

    American sizing is bigger again. Instead of wearing a size 4 or 6 bottoms in US patterns, I make a 0 or 2. If I'm really unlucky I'm a 00. Usually the patterns start too big.

    However, M&S and brands like Jaeger have always been more generous in sizing than, say New Look or Dorothy Perkins, so it's not a surprise that Per Uno, aiming at the latter market, is smaller than the standard M&S fare, which aims at the old Jaeger market.

    And narrow sleeves seem to be a perennial problem for many people.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Stop complaining, CK - you're a size I can only dream of! :mrgreen:

    It was actually less nasty in Embra than it had been in Linlithgow, but still jolly cold, and I must have just missed a bus, as I had to wait for about 25 minutes for one, by which time I was v. cold and v. cross.

    Busy day today - I'm more-or-less on my own in the office, so of course the phone's going like a Christmas tree!
  • Oh, I've been bigger in the meantime, just lost weight again.

    The irritation is that many high street shops will not stock the age 12-13 or 14-15 sizes in store (Next and FatFace, to name two), you have to order them in. I fit age 12-13 clothes mostly, which are around 152-158cm height. Adult sizes are proportioned all wrong for me at 5'1", because they are sized for 5'6"-5'8" height, even if they stock size 4 or 6. Coupled with the hEDS frame of short torso, long arms and legs, that leaves me with indecently low v-necks or scoop necked tops and everything sitting at the wrong heights. And the same is true for most pattern companies: sizing often stops at age 11, starts again at size 6 or 8. So what do all the teenagers wear? Or are they supposed to suddenly reach adult sizes within a couple of weeks? because the Girl Guides I see don't.

    This also goes with pressure on pattern companies for "inclusive sizing", which means going up to size 30 odd, at which point some of the companies are losing their smaller sizes. And those of us who are small respond sadly that it's not inclusive if we are sized out and get yelled at for promoting unhealthy bodies. Which is rich from those who I suspect would be in the morbidly obese areas of the BMI graphs from their photos. (I'm not skinny, would like to lose a few pounds, OK BMI, but definitely in the OK window, not underweight.)
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    This morning it started out very windy and raining. It cleared up after that though, so a very enjoyable morning was had after Captain Pyjamas put on his green dinosaur wellies (thank you, Father Christmas) and went sploshing in puddles. Raining again now.
  • Sploshing in Puddles™ is such FUN, whether or not one is sporting green dinosaur wellies!
    :naughty:

    Neither Wit nor Wendy here, but calm, Sunshiny, and mild, after a few hours' worth of drizzle this morning.

    Our Glorious Leader is urging us to go outside and clap at 6pm today, in honour of the late Captain Sir Tom Moore. Anyone planning to follow our Glorious Leader's example?

    I can't help feeling that getting a grip on the pandemic, and providing the NHS with more resources, would be a far better way of honouring the man who raised £33million for the NHS...

  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    I won’t be clapping - I don’t like following de Pfeffel’s orders.
  • Boogie wrote: »
    I won’t be clapping - I don’t like following de Pfeffel’s orders.

    Same here. The hypocrisy of that man is world-beating (sorry, I know this isn't the Johnson rant thread...).

  • Likewise. Leaping onto drays carrying orchestras comes to mind ...
  • SarasaSarasa Shipmate
    Sploshing in puddles when you are Captain Pyjama's age is such fun. My son loved his green frog wellies and I spent a lot of his early years standing around while he went stomping.
    We went for a very wet walk this morning. It meant we could actually walk by the Thames without problems, as no many other people were out and about. Not as flooded as it was a few years ago but running very fast with some impressive looking debris heading downstream.
    I've had two friends contact me today regarding knitting advice, I guess a lot of people are running out of things to do this lockdown and are thinking of taking up knitting again.
    Totally different topic, are you getting used to the hearing aids @piglet?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I'm not sure that with a pandemic, we need an additional National clap.

    Re sizing: usually the cheaper, the more meagre the cut. A couple of season ago Sainsbury's own brand, Tu, were producing a line of long tops, in gaudy prints and florals (yes!) at £16 a throw. I bought about a dozen in the largest size available, which is about 2 above my 'normal'.

    It's easier to make a big thing smaller than a small bigger - though I've done that, as witness various frankendresses.
  • I thought Thursdays were designated clapping nights?
  • Firenze wrote: »
    I'm not sure that with a pandemic, we need an additional National clap.

    Maybe Johnson thinks a nationalised clap would be less impactful, a goal one can understand in a man of his proclivities.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    I’ve got a lovely photo of my sons in their red wellies playing in a puddle. :)
  • Wesley J wrote: »
    Clothes sizes are indeed a strange beast, aren't they. - My taylorette/seamstress person, who is very good at her job and always provides sensible advice, thinks that clothes sizes can slightly vary even within the same brand and product range!

    Mrs C recently bought a pair of trousers that she liked, so returned to the same store the next day to buy the same trousers in a different colour. The second pair were far too loose.
  • British sizing has got bigger over the years - inconsistency between sizing is a different issue.

    I have long thought that we should buy clothes by measuring our bodies in a couple of dozen or so different places, then presenting our measurements to the store, who will tell us which size of a particular garment would fit us. I'm told, however, that a significant number of shoppers don't want to know their dimensions - they want their ego stroking with vanity sizing etc.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Meaning no disrespect to Captain Sir Tom (rather the reverse), I didn't join in the applause; I couldn't help thinking it was an insult to his memory that it was suggested by the man whose policies made his efforts necessary. Like Boogie, I jib at the idea of doing something at BoJo's behest.

    I think that at the appointed hour, I'd just got in from work and was starting to cook my supper - a risotto with salmon, broccoli and French beans which was very nice indeed.
    Sarasa wrote: »
    Totally different topic, are you getting used to the hearing aids @piglet?
    Sort of (thank you for asking). I had my first check-up yesterday, and they've been slightly tweaked. It seemed to me that they amplify everything except the human voice, which is un fat lot de bon, but I can definitely feel a bit of a difference when they're in. Some voices seem clearer, others not so much; the audiologist said it would take a bit of getting used to filtering out "other" noises. He was certainly right when he said I'd notice creaky floorboards!

    I will persist: the comfort level is fine - I don't really feel them being there, but the noises of things like putting on a hat (ugh!) or my spectacles is a bit weird. I had to take quite a lot of phone-calls at work today, and they seemed to be quite good for that, which was encouraging. One of the things they don't seem to help with is placing the direction of a sound - I might be aware that someone's saying my name, but if I'm not looking in the right direction I'm a bit clueless (that may be a default setting though ...).

    I'm still sufficiently unused to them that I take them out when I come home from work; as I haven't got a telly yet, there isn't anything for me to listen to, so there seems little point in keeping them in. I was a little nonplussed when the audiologist said that the digital records on his computer could tell that I'd been wearing them for an average of 12 hours a day - it seems a bit Big Brother!

    Paranoid, moi? :fearful:


  • Mr engineer is coming to the house tomorrow to fit our new boiler, for an eye-watering price.
    I've managed to re-write a tutorial (stereotypes and labelling with a side order of referencing skills) and discussed it with my co-tutor but have entirely failed to do any marking. Tea was spicy potato and cabbage soup, made with leftover curry sauce from last night.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Eye-watering seems to be the default price for boilers; I got a fairly astronomical quote for putting in gas central heating to the flat one boiler, two smsll radiators and one of those radiator towel-rail thingies in the bathroom).

    If we ever come out of lockdown I must try and get something done about the heating - I feel that I'm paying through the nose for a rather inefficient system.
  • SarasaSarasa Shipmate
    Glad the hearing aids are working, @piglet. It does take some getting used to. As to the directions of sounds, I have that problem too. Not good when you are trying to maintain order in a busy school library!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    And I thought libraries were meant to be quiet ... :mrgreen:
  • It is a school library, so it is not likely to be very quiet. (Nor is a library doing toddler time.)
  • Pendragon wrote: »
    It is a school library, so it is not likely to be very quiet. (Nor is a library doing toddler time.)

    My school library was silent, under pain of, well, pain (the librarian was married to the PE teacher, and her preferred punishment was to assign detention with him, and his detentions involved running laps of the school fields.) Apart from the time a couple got caught shagging in it out of hours, and were expelled. I dare say there was some noise involved then.
  • Wesley JWesley J Shipmate
    [...] Apart from the time a couple got caught shagging in it out of hours, and were expelled. [...]
    From the library or from the school?!

  • Piglet wrote: »
    And I thought libraries were meant to be quiet ... :mrgreen:

    It's 23 years since I was promoted out of my school library position, and school libraries had been noisy places for quite some time prior to that. Board games, Lego and other construction activities, computers and children just chatting about books all brought life to the place. Now children's libraries are introducing interactive tables and other activities, so they are not going to be silent any time soon.

    Quietness in research libraries maybe, but otherwise let's keep libraries joyful. In Australia, on 14 February, we'll be celebrating Library Lover's Day to recognise the importance of libraries in our community and the increased community usage and support, even before COVID.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    <snip>In Australia, on 14 February, we'll be celebrating Library Lover's Day to recognise the importance of libraries in our community and the increased community usage and support, even before COVID.

    Presumably that’s for lovers of libraries rather than lovers in libraries as per Leorning Cniht’s post.
  • There are certain romantically-themed activities planned given the date, but stopping short of the physical.
  • I quite fancy a morning in a library right now. The gas engineer arrived at 8am (I went out for a walk) and I'm now hiding in my study, listening to the water draining from the radiator. He is currently hammering on the landing outside my door and I suspect I will be blocked in here for some hours. Marking will have to wait til later in the day.
    I dread to think how my son's online lesson is going this morning...
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