Today I Consign To Hell -the All Saints version

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  • I always boycott these sites when I discover them, and phone to let them know it. There are far too many. FWIW when I lived in the Borders you still got some of them. I think they recognise Edinburgh and Glasgow, possibly.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    One cider maker we were looking at charged one delivery price all the way up to Berwick, but doubled it if you wanted the extra 50 miles to Edinburgh.

    It's the having to fight off tartan hordes while driving over trackless heather in horizontal rain bumps up the cost.
  • I too have a little book of Companies To Be Avoided....
  • Firenze wrote: »
    One cider maker we were looking at charged one delivery price all the way up to Berwick, but doubled it if you wanted the extra 50 miles to Edinburgh.

    It's the having to fight off tartan hordes while driving over trackless heather in horizontal rain bumps up the cost.

    I think it might be the empty space on the map, marked *Here Be Dragons*, that puts them off...

    Or would that be deliveries to Wales?

    I've got me coat on already...
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Crikey!
  • Wet slippery decking. Luckily my derrière is of Kim Kardashian proportions so I was bounced rather than hammered when I landed on my backside.
  • {{{{{{{Caroline}}}}}}} Ouch!
  • So sorry Caroline. Hope you have no sore spots to contend with.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    Ants in sugar: Ants don't dissolve, so you could dissolve the sugar, filter, and recrystallise the filtrate.
  • Couldn't you just eat the ants as well? I daresay they're nutritious, in their own way...

  • And they joined the Solway (actually the Sark) and the Tweed!
  • Who, the ants?

    I'll get my coat...
  • Firenze wrote: »
    One cider maker we were looking at charged one delivery price all the way up to Berwick, but doubled it if you wanted the extra 50 miles to Edinburgh.

    It's the having to fight off tartan hordes while driving over trackless heather in horizontal rain bumps up the cost.

    You know, you could make a movie about that...
    ;)
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Karl I don't know if ants leave unseen droppings or not. I did once inadvertently eat some and they taste revolting so I decided not to risk it and just discarded the sugar and bought some more as I wasn't going to risk the more expensive ingredients for the sake of using that sugar.

    I had planned on making the cakes tomorrow, but a more pressing engagement came up. At This rate they will be New Year cakes,
  • Formic acid. According to the teacher Miss Dove, ants taste like pickles. I remember this from way, way back. I imagine the acid would dissolve with the sugar, and would require fractionating during the recrystallisation process to be removed. It would remove limescale, as it is sold for this purpose, and must be edible, or it wouldn't be used for kettles and coffee makers. I always make sure to use citric acid, though. I know citric acid is safe to eat, and does not taste like pickles.
  • Huia wrote: »
    Karl I don't know if ants leave unseen droppings or not. I did once inadvertently eat some and they taste revolting so I decided not to risk it and just discarded the sugar and bought some more as I wasn't going to risk the more expensive ingredients for the sake of using that sugar.

    I had planned on making the cakes tomorrow, but a more pressing engagement came up. At This rate they will be New Year cakes,

    A bit of fractional crystallisation will resolve that problem.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    Possibly good in theory, but time is also a factor.

    I like pickles , but ants and raisins taste foul.
  • TICTH both my e-mail and cell phone service, both of which are giving me issues, just when I need to be most connected.
  • So sorry Nicole, it is indeed nerve-racking how quickly we can lose touch with the world. Hope the issues are resolved quickly for you.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    Huia wrote: »
    Possibly good in theory, but time is also a factor.

    You try to make a constructive suggestion using equipment you'd already have around for making crack or crystal meth...

  • Karl--

    Maybe she's afraid of her home blowing up, due to residual materials on the equipment? And, if the authorities swing by, she doesn't want to have to name *you* as inciting her.
    ;)
  • I sympathise with all the ants in sugar problems! During the years I lived in (Little) Aden, everything had to be safely sealed, otherwise they'd get into anything. Fortunately, I don't think I ever accidentally ate any! :)
  • Richard Feynman had a system for diverting them elsewhere.
    Meanwhile, my surgery. They have a system whereby you phone after 8.30, describe the problem to the receptionist, get a phone call from a doctor who decides how to progress the issue, and if you need to see them, book you in that day. You do not, under current rules, go in to the place.
    It is now 9.20. I have been phoning every five minutes. It's a good thing it is not the sort of serious that isn't serious enough for 999, but something slowly developing. I was calling till 10 on Tuesday, with no answer, no queuing system, and no use of ringback, though it suggests it. (Possibly due to my supplier.) It doesn't even do that on my mobile.
    9.30. still busy.
  • At 9.40, I got through, and then through the menu to a real person, who informed me that all appointments today are fully booked and I need to ring at 8.30 tomorrow. I informed her that I had been ringing since 8.30 this morning.
    The system doesn't, it seems, allow for advance booking. It has to be on the day.
  • North East QuineNorth East Quine Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    We had a weird system whereby you phoned and were told the next available appointment was two or three weeks away. So you took that appointment. It became your backstop appointment.

    Then the next day you phoned again to see if any spots had opened up for a earlier appointment, and possibly got it brought forward by a couple of days. Then you phoned the next day... By a combination of time passing and your date becoming closer, and the phone calls bringing your appointment forward, you eventually got an appointment which suited.

    Every time your own appointment was brought forward, your previous appointment became vacant so someone else could be brought forward and get that one, so there was a sort of constant cascade system.
  • Actually, I think one needs another word - system has implications for effectiveness. (And I'm pretty sure I used ringback for somewhere else the other day, so it's them, not my phone company.)
    Yours must have had a lot of patients with "self-limiting" conditions.
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    Penny S wrote: »
    At 9.40, I got through, and then through the menu to a real person, who informed me that all appointments today are fully booked and I need to ring at 8.30 tomorrow. I informed her that I had been ringing since 8.30 this morning.
    The system doesn't, it seems, allow for advance booking. It has to be on the day.

    I always start phoning continuously at least 10 minutes before the official time, otherwise I have no chance of getting through!
  • I have now been on hold to a helpdesk for 45 minutes. I wouldn't mind but I'm being subjected to Four Seasons on a loop!
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    It could be a lot worse ...
  • ...yeah, you could be waiting at Four Seasons Total Landscaping for another T-related press conference!
    ;)
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    At one point my job involved making a lot of phone calls to try to get appointments for a boss. Some of the hold music was amazing. In South Korea I got some very nice traditional koto* music, but I think my absolute favourite was a big Bollywood style number in India.

    * Or an instrument similar to it, I suppose. Koto is Japanese.
  • I have now been on hold to a helpdesk for 45 minutes. I wouldn't mind but I'm being subjected to Four Seasons on a loop!
    I don't think you got four seasons - just a repetitive few days out of one, probably spring.

  • The Four Seasons (especially Spring) has to be the most used hold music in the world, I swear.
  • I don't get hold music at the moment. They don't have a hold system. They have continuous repeats of "The number you require is busy. To use ringback, press 5." Which in my case does not work. If it is working for other people, I haven't got a chance. I keep ringing at random intervals in hopes of hitting a gap, but if the others are on ringback, there won't be one.
  • I've just completed a YouGov survey on Covid and Christmas:

    What is YOUR favourite part of Christmas? Family? Food? Tradition? Decorations? Presents? Carols? Watching TV? Parties?

    "Tradition" has an emoji of Santa after it. I suppose "Carols" might be a shorthand for "celebrating the birth of OLASJC." Once you have answered the question, the current voting results come up, and only 3% have chosen "carols."

    When the YouGov survey is published it will be very easy to spin as "only 3% chose "religion" as their favourite part of Christmas. (Way out in front is "family" chosen by 47%).

    It's one of the reasons I do YouGov surveys - I know what questions were asked, which sometimes helps explain the results.
  • Usual outcome. Looked at their flashy new updated website. It seems that I need an app on a smartphone, or access via the computer. In an area with a lot of elderly people who have not had the advantage of being in charge of IT at school. Off to doctor link, if it will work on Windows - seems to be Android or Apple based.
  • My local surgery: I'm having trouble with my ears and need them looked at.

    I ring one afternoon: "Oh, we only do emergencies in the afternoon, you'll need to ring at 8 tomorrow morning".

    I ring - repeatedly - at 8 am. The line is constantly engaged. I ring at 11 am only to be asked, "Is it an emergency?" - "No" - "In that case you'll have to ring at 8 tomorrow" - "I tried that, I couldn't get through" - "Well, that's the way we work, anyway I don't think we do ears anymore" ... !
  • I didn't wait for the brushoff line yesterday.
    Doctor Link, apart from being for phone or tablet, and a separate company, demands lots of my information, beyond what they need for contacting the surgery. There is another one, Patient Access, more local, but again on apps for the two As.
    They don't want older patients, do they?
  • DooneDoone Shipmate
    Penny S wrote: »
    I didn't wait for the brushoff line yesterday.
    Doctor Link, apart from being for phone or tablet, and a separate company, demands lots of my information, beyond what they need for contacting the surgery. There is another one, Patient Access, more local, but again on apps for the two As.
    They don't want older patients, do they?

    It’s sure looking that way, ☹️
  • LydaLyda Shipmate
    I have now been on hold to a helpdesk for 45 minutes. I wouldn't mind but I'm being subjected to Four Seasons on a loop!

    I didn't get if it was Vivaldi or Frankie Valli. :wink:
  • What happens if you show up to the doctor's office without an appointment, looking ill and confused, and mumbling about how you've been trying to get through for weeks? Is there any chance someone would take pity on you and just put you through?
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    It's an automatic door - probably couldn't through as far as the desk! And it's not that bad a thing I need them for. And the receptionists are better than the one's at my friend's mother's surgery, who I owe something negative to*, but I had a telling off from them after I tried email a while back.
    If I was bad enough, as above, I could call 111, who would put me on to the surgery if deemed appropriate.
    They are probably very busy - our area continues to have more cases of covid, and the rate of increase is increasing.
    It's a nuisance with something that isn't self limiting, treat it myself with Friar's Balsam, lemon and honey, paracetamol and a warm bed, or support socks, or salt gargle or anything like that, but might be the precursor of something else and needs to be nipped in the bud. Not something really serious, but needing a professional eye.
    *Thank you for making the decision not to see Mrs X, which led to the loss of three years of my life and the money involved in it. Here, as a thank you gift, is a tin of Quality Street, as I know you are barred from sharing it in case you get covid.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    The people at my gynecologist's office don't answer the phone and frequently the voicemail is full. I have emailed them through the contact page on the website a few times, but last time I needed to talk to them and couldn't get through and went to do that, the website was down. So I wrote a letter. They called me when they received it.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    They were probably so taken aback at receiving a real letter, on actual paper, with ink, that it jolted them into action! :smiley:
  • Check your GP's online system, it may be worth using. Ours allows us to book appointments (with the GP not any of the nurses*), book repeat prescriptions (unless they need reviewing), check progress of prescriptions and all sorts of things. I don't remember finding the questions particularly unnecessary for what it was achieving when I signed up: date of birth, NHS number, address, phone number, GP surgery.

    Also check the phone system: we have an emergency on the day appointment system for something that needs immediate attention with queuing system, irritating muzak and updates on number in the queue, usually listened to on speaker while getting on with something else, and we have an appointment system - 3 weeks or so in advance for general check ups and other problems. The emergency appointments line opens at 8:30am and all slots are usually booked by 9:00am/9:15am for either a call back or an appointment. For anything else, including booking an ordinary appointment and checking for results, the request is that calls are made after 11am, so after morning appointments have been sorted out.

    * typically, my regular asthma checks are with the asthma nurse, so I have to phone to book my appointments.
  • Curiosity Killed. Different doctors have different systems. With mine, you have to ring on the day you want an appointment and you cannot request your own GP at present. You cannot have a regular appointment apart from this. I should be having probably bi-monthly check-ups at present. I have twice been told I am unlikely to get my GP by the receptionist. When you have a medical condition going back thirty years with various complexities over the years there is no sensible way another GP can just pick up and triage in the problem in ten minutes. If it is something separate from that I do not mind who I see. Needless to say I both times got called by my GP.
  • I'll check out the online thingy. But there is no queuing system on the phone. I have a cunning plan, though. I rang, accidentally, at 8,28 on Friday, to be told to wait until after 8.30, so I put the phone down and rang a bit after 8.30. I'm going to try ringing at 8.29, and keep on holding, thus possessing the line for when they switch over. But not tomorrow, as I reckon that there will be a number of people who needed them over the weekend who I might prevent from getting through.
  • Penny--

    Forgive me if I've missed this, but a) does your doc do phone and/or virtual appointments now; and b) are there somewhat lower-ranking staff (here: physician assistant, nurse practitioner) who could help you instead?

    I've had a phone appointment with one doc, and it went very well. I have another with the same doc soon. In the past, I've had PAs when a doc wasn't available; and, in my case, they were better doctors than many MDs.

    Best of luck!
  • Phone first, talk with doctor over phone, actual appointment if required. I think it needs an actual doctor, and it needs eyes on at some point. It's getting past that first hurdle of the phone to reception that is the problem - I can't judge on the rest of the procedure, which sounds good. Why the dickens they can't have a queuing system, and why the redial procedure doesn't work I can't think. They've spent enough on their web site.
  • FYI: Some people do the "eyes on" part virtually--Zoom, Facetime, etc.
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