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  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    I'm split down the middle: half is speechless at the mendacity; half shrugs in utter unsurprise.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Fair enough. Trump's finance arrangements are labyrinthine, so an apparently modest bit of evidence may not show all there is.

    Let's make it 95% stupid, 5% mendacious. After all, he also had help from Fox News's Laura Ingraham.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    Uh-oh..

    Fixed broken link. BroJames Purgatory Host
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    Ohher wrote: »
    Uh-oh..

    Fixed broken link. BroJames Purgatory Host

    Hey, he has nothing to hide, has he?

    In the meantime, inquiring minds want to know if he has any financial interest in the company making hydroxychloroquine.

    Ya just can't make this up.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    Aha. I'd been wondering if he had a $$$ connection to the med.
  • My sister, however, a retired nurse practitioner, has pointed out that hydroxychloroquine has been generic for some time, and in its generic form is actually quite inexpensive. The Trump family apparently has an interest only in the French company that manufactures it under a proprietary brand name.

    What disturbs me more, however, is the following remark from her: "I could easily prescribe it for you but I am a Trump supporter so maybe another prescriber could handle it."
  • The drug costs about 15 cents per 200mg tablet here. The brandname is 63 cents. The drug is used for seronegative rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and a few other autoimmune conditions. Neighbour informs pharmacy is having difficulty filling his prescription. The brandname will be filled for the generic price.
  • And there's the rub. First they hoarded toilet paper; now they're hoarding hydroxychloroquine -- and no one knows for sure if it works!
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    The drug costs about 15 cents per 200mg tablet here. The brandname is 63 cents. The drug is used for seronegative rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and a few other autoimmune conditions. Neighbour informs pharmacy is having difficulty filling his prescription. The brandname will be filled for the generic price.

    And people with rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and other autoimmune conditions are not able to get their medications, thanks to 45.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    Miss Amanda--
    My sister, however, a retired nurse practitioner, has pointed out that hydroxychloroquine has been generic for some time, and in its generic form is actually quite inexpensive. The Trump family apparently has an interest only in the French company that manufactures it under a proprietary brand name.

    What disturbs me more, however, is the following remark from her: "I could easily prescribe it for you but I am a Trump supporter so maybe another prescriber could handle it."

    Yikes. (:votive:)

    If I may ask, any idea if she thinks the med should only be for Trump supporters? Or maybe has slipped a few gears, due to the stressful situation?


  • She can be very outspoken and often says things she doesn't mean. My other sister has said just to ignore her and not take it personally.

    I think I'm more surprised by the fact that she apparently thinks hydroxychloroquine is not only a proven cure, but a proven preventative, and should be taken as freely as Dramamine would be taken for seasickness.

    Oh, and that she's a Trump supporter. She was brought up to be better than that. Not so much her husband, though, who would surprise me if he were **not** a Trump supporter.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    And the master news cycle deflector is at it again. Blaming the WHO for his February inaction. And doubling down too.
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Barnabas62 wrote: »
    And the master news cycle deflector is at it again. Blaming the WHO for his February inaction. And doubling down too.

    Sure. When lying through your teeth doesn't work, threaten retaliation.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    "When all else fails, assert, assert, assert!" Trouble is, Ohher, the degree to which he succeeds.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 2020
    I see that he has descended even further into the abyss of insanity, and is planning to 'mine the Moon' for resources.
    :flushed:

    True lunacy...

    Once more, you couldn't make it up.
  • True lunacy indeed!

    Maybe we can send him up there to do the mining himself. Oops! It's a one-way ticket!
  • No, I don't need to take food with me. Everybody knows the moon is made of green cheese. I love green cheese -- my good friend Joe Arpaio taught me how to make green baloney sandwiches with green cheese. Delicions. Good man, that Joe Arpaio -- the best! Maybe he can come to the moon with me. We'll open up a MacDonald's on the moon. My favorite restaurant, MacDonald's. There's a lot of Mexicans who work there -- but good Mexicans. What? The moon **isn't** made of green cheese? Lying liberal fake media hoax. Nancy Pelosi is behind it, you mark my words. She thinks the moon is made of rock? Her head is made of rock!
  • Oh, do please take Joe Arpaio with you! You can live in tents!
  • PINK tents!
  • This is a rather indicting graphic. Of this rather inhuman individual. https://twitter.com/IanSams/status/1248300398454112258?s=20
  • Gramps49 wrote: »
    Now his lowness is saying he will start taking Hydroxychloroquine as a precaution.

    From his aquarium?
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Acknowledging the truth of W Hyatt's analysis, if POTUS 45 doesn't stand to gain from this incessant promotion, I'm a monkey's uncle.
  • If He takes it, might He die?
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Barnabas62 wrote: »
    if POTUS 45 doesn't stand to gain from this incessant promotion, I'm a monkey's uncle.
    If I understand the situation he probably doesn't stand to gain much (it's non-proprietary so nobody can corner supply), and he would only think he does if he were an ignoramus with no genuine grasp of how business works.
    What?
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    :mrgreen:

    Seriously, he is is advertising, isn't he? And he is always motivated, first and formost, by his own best interests.

    It's hard to believe he doesn't expect to gain.
  • Dave WDave W Shipmate
    I don't think his promotion of unproven drugs has anything at all to do with his infinitesimal ownership share in the manufacturer's stock.

    Trump naturally gravitates to immediate rhetorical gratification - his own and that of his supporters. Promising an untested drug is like promising that the virus will disappear "like a miracle", or that the country will be open by Easter, or that he's got a great health care plan that protects those with pre-existing conditions, or any of a million other bullshit things he's said.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    I would not put it above him promoting a product made by a company he has shares in. He is constantly advertising himself and how good he is doing.
  • Does he have problems in the old ticker department?
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    One thing that does surprise me: T reportedly has a germ phobia, but I haven't seen any sign of it in relation to the virus. He has various modes of (dys)functioning, and maybe he's just in a mode where his phobia is buried.

    I did notice in today's (?) press briefing that he looked unwell: not his usual state, but really pale and drawn. Could just be no spray tan. But he looked like he might be coming down with something. Not necessarily COVID-19, and I certainly don't wish that on him.. Just offering an observation.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    edited April 2020
    He’s not been to Florida for some time. I think having to actually do his job without those breaks is taking its toll. Terribly ‘tho he’s doing it.

    He is used to a lot of relaxation and downtime with people on hand to meet his every need - and has never had to face the reality of actual work in his life.

    There is also the financial worry for him, I expect. A US and worldwide depression won’t bode well for the hotel and golf industry or any of his money/shares etc etc.

    Regarding his germ phobia - you can be germ phobic but thick about how they are spread at the same time.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    That's pretty persuasive, Dave W. Thanks.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    God help you USA - where do you start with this?

    https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1248699275355328512?s=20
  • As has been said before - You. Couldn't. Make. It. Up.
    :scream:
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    Corona virus has hit people at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. At least some were guests/visitors.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    KarlB's link should
    KarlLB wrote: »
    God help you USA - where do you start with this?

    https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1248699275355328512?s=20
    :mrgreen:

    My youngest grandson knows just how dumb that is. Emperor's new clothes is tame in the face of the continued loyal support for this dangerously dumb dumbass.
  • He dispenses antibiotics advice now.
  • Which might be useful, under circumstances where antibiotics might be useful.

    Is there no end to this infantile idiot's idiocy? And to the idiocy of those who support him?
  • Apparently not.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Golden Key wrote: »
    One thing that does surprise me: T reportedly has a germ phobia, but I haven't seen any sign of it in relation to the virus. He has various modes of (dys)functioning, and maybe he's just in a mode where his phobia is buried.

    I've always found Trump's alleged germophobia to be overstated. Germophobes don't have unprotected sex with porn stars. Trump's just prissy.
  • Which might be useful, under circumstances where antibiotics might be useful.

    Is there no end to this infantile idiot's idiocy? And to the idiocy of those who support him?

    Oddly enough anti-biotics are quite frequently deployed in covid-19 cases, but they're to treat secondary bacterial pneumonia infections rather than the virus itself.
  • Quite - but that doesn't really diminish Trump's idiocy.

    He'll be recommending aspirin as a 'cure' soon, I expect.
    :grimace:

  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    He'll be recommending aspirin as a 'cure' soon, I expect.
    I don't know. Does he have a financial stake in Bayer?

  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Make America Smart Again?
  • Can someone ask trump when was the last time he went to church and what the lesson was?
  • Can someone ask trump when was the last time he went to church and what the lesson was?

    A friend just sent me this link: Trump Wishes Everyone A ‘Happy’ Crucifixion Day

    :lol:
  • WTF?

    It gets worse by the day...
    :rage:
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate, Glory
    And his uncle had something to do with MIT (big-deal science school), and therefore smarts run in the family, and he has them, so he understands all this stuff. And people have told him that he really gets it.

    (Paraphrase of what he said.)
  • OhherOhher Shipmate
    Where is the pounding-my-head-on-the-front-stoop-till-it-bleeds smiley when you need it?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    There does seem to be somethong typically American about wishing someone a "Happy" Good Friday. That can-do optimism-conquers-all sorta thing.

    And "conquers" might not really be the right word, since the person saying that would probably be barely aware of what happened on Good Friday. More like, well, it's a holiday about Jesus, so of course it's gonna be happy, right?
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