But are Christians supposed to be saints all the time?
Actually, yes. Not that I am, and my feelings about Trump are not much different from yours. But we are in fact called to be saints.
I'm going to start a Purg thread on that. I want to explore it. It might well be axiomatic. I do not like things that are axiomatic, but only if they go against my grain
"Saints" in Greek is "hagioi", that is, "holy ones." You get this in Paul's greetings all the time. Even in the letters where he goes on to rip them a new one for acting unholily.
Holy means ‘set apart’.
"Holy" has a number of interpenetrating meanings, that being one of them.
I'm familiar with the best way drink this. The method is to get a bucket and immerse the spray can of Lysol in some water, emptying the contents into the water. Then mix with 7-Up, Sprite or Koolaid.
Kiss Me (they're even listed as Christian alternative).
Yes, re 1st paragraph. That's how they consume the alcohol contained in Lysol.
The second, "Kiss Me" because of sweeter breath after the Lysol, as above-mentioned. The song is also cheerful in melody and song, which cheerfulness I find in diminished supply these days.
I wish the Little Boy could find a way to come into his inheritance and then put as much distance between him and you-know-who as could possibly happen.
“Find a way to come into his inheritance”? He’ll probably get his share through shell companies and tax dodges just as sleazily as his father did before him.
I wish Barron well. He's not responsible for anything his parents (particularly his father) have done.
Think what it must be like for him with that family, in the presidential mess his father wrought, stuck with Secret Service agents who disrespect him*. Possibly without other family to go to, depending on whether he has a relationship with T's siblings, etc. (AFAIK, Melania's relatives are back in Slovenia.) He was in boarding school, IIRC, but I'm not sure what he's doing now.
On top of that, to have a father who's gleefully endangering the country with Covid--and to then *get* Covid...
Poor kid.
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*A few years ago, there was a news story about Barron being in a car with several Secret Service agents. He fell asleep. *They* took selfies with the sleeping kid. When he woke up and found out, he was not a happy camper.
I wish the Little Boy could find a way to come into his inheritance and then put as much distance between him and you-know-who as could possibly happen.
What inheritance? His father is $300M (or is it $300B?) in debt.
To the public, and we don't know, but I'd suspect, that, like everyone else in this self-centred insaniac's world, that his kid is a two dimensional character to him. Considering the rather apocalyptic but apropos Amalekite order from 1 Samuel 15:3 "Don't leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys."
If God needs to smite Donnie how would he really hurt him? Does he have a puppy?
If God does zap people dead for what they do, then She's either merciful or worn out, because there are lots of still-living people for whom that might be a just end. OTOH, be careful about calling down justice, because it might not land where you (gen.) think.
If God chose to hurt someone second-hand (kid, puppy), why would She punish someone who had nothing to do with the problem?
If God needs to smite Donnie how would he really hurt him? Does he have a puppy?
Actually there is a Biden ad that capitalizes on the fact that 45 is the first president in a century to not have a dog.
This has come up in the past, without an ad. There is nothing wrong with not having a pet. It doesn't mean you're bad, crazy, etc. And it doesn't disqualify you from being president.
OTOH, given how broken and dangerous T is, would you really *want* him to have a pet? PETA would be pounding on your door in the middle of the night to have a little talk with you...
I happen to be someone who cares about animals, but doesn't want to live with them full time or take care of them full time. Lots of people are the same way. And, frankly, I don't really believe in pets. IMVVHO, it's not fair to the animals--or wasn't, in the beginning of it. Far too late for cats and dogs to go back to the wild, though.
If God needs to smite Donnie how would he really hurt him? Does he have a puppy?
Actually there is a Biden ad that capitalizes on the fact that 45 is the first president in a century to not have a dog.
There is nothing wrong with not having a pet. It doesn't mean you're bad, crazy, etc. <<snip>> I happen to be someone who cares about animals, but doesn't want to live with them full time or take care of them full time. <<snip>> Far too late for cats and dogs to go back to the wild, though.
I'm not a pet fancier either, but to each his own. I wouldn't wish the fate of pet ownership by you-know-who on any animal, though.
As for going back to the wild, cats seem to do it effortlessly. The feral cats of Rome and of so many other places are testimony to that. And dogs aren't far behind, judging from my last visit to Tijuana.
I've never owned a Dog, or been employed by a Cat, but I have great respect for both species, and would NEVER wish any one of them to be even near The Mad God-King, let alone owned by him...
I've never owned a Dog, or been employed by a Cat, but I have great respect for both species, and would NEVER wish any one of them to be even near The Mad God-King, let alone owned by him...
Indeed. Which is another reason the ad was spot on.
If God does zap people dead for what they do, then She's either merciful or worn out, because there are lots of still-living people for whom that might be a just end. OTOH, be careful about calling down justice, because it might not land where you (gen.) think.
If God chose to hurt someone second-hand (kid, puppy), why would She punish someone who had nothing to do with the problem?
Dunno. Did you hear what happend to King David's baby, allegedly?
I've never owned a Dog, or been employed by a Cat, but I have great respect for both species, and would NEVER wish any one of them to be even near The Mad God-King, let alone owned by him...
I seriously think Trump would get someone else to look after a pet and only bring it out for appropriate photo ops. Living at the Whitehouse and being looked after by someone who likes you is not a bad gig
Hugal, sounds like what happened with the Bible photo op. Hopefully, the person looking after the Bible likes it and is taking care of it. It's probably doing its best to be a positive influence, but might not actually be allowed to stay in the white house.
Genuine question: how, in a democracy, can it be legal for armed supporters of one side to intimidate voters at polling stations?
As @Bishops Finger points out, it's not legal. On the other hand the Trump campaign seems to be planning on deploying "election observers" to a lot of polling places and may very well encourage them to exercise their Second Amendment rights while doing so. This is a dirty trick that Republicans have used in the past, most notably in the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial campaign. Because of the fallout from that the Republican party agreed to a consent decree under which they agreed not to do that kind of thing any more.
But if it can be shown that the intimidation has affected the outcome of the election (though I can't think offhand how that might be done), wouldn't the result itself be invalid?
Not that The Mad God-King would take any notice...
But if it can be shown that the intimidation has affected the outcome of the election (though I can't think offhand how that might be done), wouldn't the result itself be invalid?
That's the problem with election tampering; it's very hard to correct after the fact and very difficult to demonstrate that it materially changed the outcome. That's why the pre-clearance clause of the Voting Rights Act was so important and why Republicans hated it.
Hugal, sounds like what happened with the Bible photo op. Hopefully, the person looking after the Bible likes it and is taking care of it. It's probably doing its best to be a positive influence, but might not actually be allowed to stay in the white house.
So, the motherfuckingcocksucker just cannot help himself.
At a rally in Michigan, the crowd started chanting "Lock her up!" referring to Gretchen Whitmer, the object of a kidnapping plot. Trump said, "yeah, lock 'em all up". Further, "our* people were the ones that worked with her people, so we'll see what happens. Let's see what happens." Well, nothing more should happen, so this sounds rather like a veiled threat. What? Deny federal protection? Can't do that. Whatever half-assed walk-back Trump did at his town hall - well, to retweet from Q and then claim not to know who they are is arguably bordering on criminal negligence, so not even quarter-assed - he retook the low ground today.
If anyone had misgivings that were put to rest by his town hall performance - does such a creature exist? - just a bit of sustained attention should resurrect those misgivings.
Unfortunately, we are back to a 'light' lockdown, so the evening of 3 November I'll have to bear witness in the company of a few litres of wine.
*Now when I hear Trump use the first person plural, I just naturally assume the royal 'we'.
BTW, PG: You might want to ration that wine, or stock up. 'Cause this election ain't gonna be settled that night. I'll be surprised if the basics are settled by inauguration day in January. And I suspect it will never be fully settled.
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At a rally in Michigan, the crowd started chanting "Lock her up!" referring to Gretchen Whitmer, the object of a kidnapping plot.
The media describes the alleged plot as a kidnapping plot, but that seems fairly euphemistic. The alleged plotters wanted to put her on "trial", conducted by themselves of course, for treason and tyranny. No doubt this would be followed by Whitmer's execution. In other words it was allegedly a murder plot, with a few gestures towards legalism to make the alleged conspirators feel better about it.
Let's not forget that John Wilkes Booth's original plan involved kidnapping Abraham Lincoln. The problem is that if you're going to kidnap someone you've also got to be willing to harm them in order to leverage your demands.
Odd that we should be having this discussion just past the fiftieth anniversary of Canada's only political kidnapping/murder (Pierre Laporte, 17 October 1970).
@Croesus, Quite right about the mechanics of the plot, and Whitmer's 'sentence' would not likely have been commuted. Speculation as to why the media are pussy footing?
Odd that we should be having this discussion just past the fiftieth anniversary of Canada's only political kidnapping/murder (Pierre Laporte, 17 October 1970).
Was just talking about the October Crisis this morning. Didn't place the 50th anniv of. What stressful times that was! The scenes of tanks and soldiers in the streets, and the "just watch me" from the PM. In my mind, it follows the optimism of 1967; I also hear the Bobby Gimby Canada Song 1967, and my brain flashes to all the FLQ things.
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I'm going to start a Purg thread on that. I want to explore it. It might well be axiomatic. I do not like things that are axiomatic, but only if they go against my grain
Heh heh. You said "penetrate."
Hamlet: That’s a fair thought to lie between maids’ legs.
At least 80% of the attendees looked very obese. It won’t go well for those who catch the virus 😣
Still, they probably don't care about being obese and infected - after all, their Messiah (who is obese) recovered...
Kiss Me (they're even listed as Christian alternative).
Umm...do your two paragraphs have anything to do with each other? I looked at the lyrics at the link, and there's no obvious connection.
And does anyone do what you mentioned in your first paragraph???
Thx.
The second, "Kiss Me" because of sweeter breath after the Lysol, as above-mentioned. The song is also cheerful in melody and song, which cheerfulness I find in diminished supply these days.
I wish the Little Boy could find a way to come into his inheritance and then put as much distance between him and you-know-who as could possibly happen.
Think what it must be like for him with that family, in the presidential mess his father wrought, stuck with Secret Service agents who disrespect him*. Possibly without other family to go to, depending on whether he has a relationship with T's siblings, etc. (AFAIK, Melania's relatives are back in Slovenia.) He was in boarding school, IIRC, but I'm not sure what he's doing now.
On top of that, to have a father who's gleefully endangering the country with Covid--and to then *get* Covid...
Poor kid.
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*A few years ago, there was a news story about Barron being in a car with several Secret Service agents. He fell asleep. *They* took selfies with the sleeping kid. When he woke up and found out, he was not a happy camper.
What inheritance? His father is $300M (or is it $300B?) in debt.
If God needs to smite Donnie how would he really hurt him? Does he have a puppy?
I do not wish Barron well or ill. I barely think about him at all. How I wish it were the same for his family.
Actually there is a Biden ad that capitalizes on the fact that 45 is the first president in a century to not have a dog.
If God chose to hurt someone second-hand (kid, puppy), why would She punish someone who had nothing to do with the problem?
This has come up in the past, without an ad. There is nothing wrong with not having a pet. It doesn't mean you're bad, crazy, etc. And it doesn't disqualify you from being president.
OTOH, given how broken and dangerous T is, would you really *want* him to have a pet? PETA would be pounding on your door in the middle of the night to have a little talk with you...
I happen to be someone who cares about animals, but doesn't want to live with them full time or take care of them full time. Lots of people are the same way. And, frankly, I don't really believe in pets. IMVVHO, it's not fair to the animals--or wasn't, in the beginning of it. Far too late for cats and dogs to go back to the wild, though.
My post just above was meant to have a general direction, and not point specifically at mt.
I'm not a pet fancier either, but to each his own. I wouldn't wish the fate of pet ownership by you-know-who on any animal, though.
As for going back to the wild, cats seem to do it effortlessly. The feral cats of Rome and of so many other places are testimony to that. And dogs aren't far behind, judging from my last visit to Tijuana.
Indeed. Which is another reason the ad was spot on.
Dunno. Did you hear what happend to King David's baby, allegedly?
Plainly, it's high time we had one who keeps is commanded by a couple of cats.
I seriously think Trump would get someone else to look after a pet and only bring it out for appropriate photo ops. Living at the Whitehouse and being looked after by someone who likes you is not a bad gig
Melania's parents became naturalized U.S. citizens recently using the kind of "chain migration" that Trump routinely demonizes.
Is there any possibility of (say) UN observers being called in, to make sure that all is done fairly, and legally?
As @Bishops Finger points out, it's not legal. On the other hand the Trump campaign seems to be planning on deploying "election observers" to a lot of polling places and may very well encourage them to exercise their Second Amendment rights while doing so. This is a dirty trick that Republicans have used in the past, most notably in the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial campaign. Because of the fallout from that the Republican party agreed to a consent decree under which they agreed not to do that kind of thing any more.
2020 is the first election since that 1982 consent decree was lifted and apparently the Republicans are going to go the whole hog.
Not that The Mad God-King would take any notice...
That's the problem with election tampering; it's very hard to correct after the fact and very difficult to demonstrate that it materially changed the outcome. That's why the pre-clearance clause of the Voting Rights Act was so important and why Republicans hated it.
Brilliant!
At a rally in Michigan, the crowd started chanting "Lock her up!" referring to Gretchen Whitmer, the object of a kidnapping plot. Trump said, "yeah, lock 'em all up". Further, "our* people were the ones that worked with her people, so we'll see what happens. Let's see what happens." Well, nothing more should happen, so this sounds rather like a veiled threat. What? Deny federal protection? Can't do that. Whatever half-assed walk-back Trump did at his town hall - well, to retweet from Q and then claim not to know who they are is arguably bordering on criminal negligence, so not even quarter-assed - he retook the low ground today.
If anyone had misgivings that were put to rest by his town hall performance - does such a creature exist? - just a bit of sustained attention should resurrect those misgivings.
Unfortunately, we are back to a 'light' lockdown, so the evening of 3 November I'll have to bear witness in the company of a few litres of wine.
*Now when I hear Trump use the first person plural, I just naturally assume the royal 'we'.
And Gov. Whitmer has been calling him on his comments, too. (Yahoo). That whole thing could get much worse...
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BTW, PG: You might want to ration that wine, or stock up. 'Cause this election ain't gonna be settled that night. I'll be surprised if the basics are settled by inauguration day in January. And I suspect it will never be fully settled.
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The media describes the alleged plot as a kidnapping plot, but that seems fairly euphemistic. The alleged plotters wanted to put her on "trial", conducted by themselves of course, for treason and tyranny. No doubt this would be followed by Whitmer's execution. In other words it was allegedly a murder plot, with a few gestures towards legalism to make the alleged conspirators feel better about it.
Let's not forget that John Wilkes Booth's original plan involved kidnapping Abraham Lincoln. The problem is that if you're going to kidnap someone you've also got to be willing to harm them in order to leverage your demands.
@Croesus, Quite right about the mechanics of the plot, and Whitmer's 'sentence' would not likely have been commuted. Speculation as to why the media are pussy footing?