How is Brexit affecting us?

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  • A complete surprise.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited March 4
    No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    By the way, 'upset' in my last contribution was supposed to read 'onside'. Don't know what happened there.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    It was always a case of 'stand back and stand by', I think. On both sides.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Doc Tor wrote: »
    Eh, in other news, the Proddy terrorists have withdrawn their support for the Good Friday Agreement.

    Nothing predictable about this scenario at all.

    Do you have a linky?
  • No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:

    I should think not. Unicorns are a Scottish animal.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited March 4
    No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:

    I should think not. Unicorns are a Scottish animal.

    :open_mouth:

    I'd forgotten that...

    So why have the Brexiteers promised us an animal that is NOT a Sovrin English Animal?
  • No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:

    I should think not. Unicorns are a Scottish animal.

    :open_mouth:

    I'd forgotten that...

    So why have the Brexiteers promised us an animal that is NOT a Sovrin English Animal?

    They've long coveted the wild ox (let the reader understand). That's why they invaded Scotland so often. Plus, do you really think all those Hooray Henrys in plus fours and shiny range rovers are really hunting deer?
  • AnselminaAnselmina Shipmate
    Doc Tor wrote: »
    Eh, in other news, the Proddy terrorists have withdrawn their support for the Good Friday Agreement.

    Nothing predictable about this scenario at all.

    Yes. Echoes of the 'Dido Harding School of Nobody could have foreseen this' approach to a virus that produces variants.

    What a shame none of these North/South Irish problems were ever flagged up before the 2016 Referendum. If only Remain campaigners had said something about the vulnerability of the peace agreement should Leave campaign promises be reneged on, or a perceived border of any kind established between NI and the UK, for customs purposes; or simply as a result which the uncertainty of a land-border with an EU nation would almost certainly produce on a still volatile Ulster situation. Oh wait...

    Mind you, this particular group of Loyalist extremists need to be kept in perspective. They will be the same people who will kindly - and without even being asked - decorate the gable wall of your house with an uplifting cheery reaffirmation of your British citizenship. And they won't even charge you for it!

    It is arguable how far any kind of reasonable negotiation could ever be gained with such hardliners. But it is an alarming symptom, nevertheless, and a precedent for others to follow.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    That's a good question. At the moment, I doubt if Starmer can shift Tory voters. Whether this will change, who knows. Brexit has cast a pall of invulnerability over Boris, fuelled by strong feelings of victimhood and anger. Of course, nothing lasts forever, maybe some unforseen disaster will strike.

    From what is said on these boards, I'd say that your second sentence is correct. Starmer's job will be to get all those who did not vote at the last election to vote, and to vote for Labour. A hard double-ask.
  • Gee D wrote: »
    That's a good question. At the moment, I doubt if Starmer can shift Tory voters. Whether this will change, who knows. Brexit has cast a pall of invulnerability over Boris, fuelled by strong feelings of victimhood and anger. Of course, nothing lasts forever, maybe some unforseen disaster will strike.

    From what is said on these boards, I'd say that your second sentence is correct. Starmer's job will be to get all those who did not vote at the last election to vote, and to vote for Labour. A hard double-ask.

    It will suffice if he take votes from the lib dems, in all likelihood, as the SNP show no sign of losing their grip on Scotland and a Labour-SNP government is plausible in a way that SNP-con is not. The Scottish Labour reaction will be unprintable, as the leadership up here have bet the croft on unionism.
  • Yes, Scottish Labour are caught between the push for independence, and their innate conservatism. Technically known as a clusterfuck.
    Meanwhile English Labour are tied up in knots. Oh happy day.
  • Yes, Scottish Labour are caught between the push for independence, and their innate conservatism. Technically known as a clusterfuck.
    Meanwhile English Labour are tied up in knots. Oh happy day.

    And we've gone and elected Anas Sarwar as leader. It's getting hard to see any point to giving either of my votes to Labour in May. I might well just split my vote SNP-Green like half the country.
  • Is Sarwar a gentleman of the centre right?
  • Is Sarwar a gentleman of the centre right?

    Yep. Hugely wealthy, part owner of a family firm paying poverty wages.
  • No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:

    I should think not. Unicorns are a Scottish animal.

    :open_mouth:

    I'd forgotten that...

    So why have the Brexiteers promised us an animal that is NOT a Sovrin English Animal?

    They've long coveted the wild ox (let the reader understand). That's why they invaded Scotland so often. Plus, do you really think all those Hooray Henrys in plus fours and shiny range rovers are really hunting deer?
    And, for those interested ... Virtual Unicorn Day, 9th April.
  • Is Sarwar a gentleman of the centre right?

    Yep. Hugely wealthy, part owner of a family firm paying poverty wages.
    Red Tory. Apparently the idea would be to recover lost votes by abandoning traditional voters and become Tories ... because why would you vote for a Tory with a red rosette when there's a load of the real one's standing with the blue rosettes as well?
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Frightening.
  • Ethne AlbaEthne Alba Shipmate
    FWIW it is frightening when Labour and Tory get together to plot and scheme .
    Makes me check that I am properly awake, not caught in a nightmare
  • Ethne Alba wrote: »
    FWIW it is frightening when Labour and Tory get together to plot and scheme .
    Makes me check that I am properly awake, not caught in a nightmare

    Yes, but then you find that you're awake - and that the nightmare is actually happening.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    According to today's Times, ministers are considering banning the importing of mineral water in retaliation for the EU ban on certain types of UK shellfish. Is nothing sacred?
  • Surely we have our own Sovrin English Mineral Water to consume?

    It's bound to be world-beating, and far, far better than any of that furrin stuff.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Buxton.
  • O yes, of course - Malvern, too, springs (!) to mind...
  • PendragonPendragon Shipmate
    No Unicorns in Norn Iron, then...or should that be Irony ?
    :disappointed:

    I should think not. Unicorns are a Scottish animal.

    :open_mouth:

    I'd forgotten that...

    So why have the Brexiteers promised us an animal that is NOT a Sovrin English Animal?

    They've long coveted the wild ox (let the reader understand). That's why they invaded Scotland so often. Plus, do you really think all those Hooray Henrys in plus fours and shiny range rovers are really hunting deer?
    And, for those interested ... Virtual Unicorn Day, 9th April.

    [Tangent] Thanks, I've bookmarked that as Dragonlet 2 is into unicorns.[/tangent]
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    Buxton.

    Either Buxton or Malvern is owned by Nestle. In fact I believe most of our mineral waters were sold to companies from the EU
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Buxton is a Nestlé brand, Malvern was Coca Cola, but they’ve closed the plant.
  • we'll be drinking Peckham Spring then.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Highland Spring seems OK
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    BroJames wrote: »
    Highland Spring seems OK

    Fresh from the Ochill hills, which are not quite highland, but not too far off.
  • Marvin the MartianMarvin the Martian Admin Emeritus
    A reminder from sunny Devon that fisherpeople are still having difficulties:
    https://theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/01/brixham-fishers-take-brexit-hit

    Any sign that this situation might ever improve? Unlikely, it seems...

    Funny how all the people who this time last year were saying fishers were a tiny and unimportant part of our economy now seem to think they’re very important indeed, isn’t it.
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    Funny how the people who insisted we had to leave the EU in order to "take back control" of our fisheries are now blithely asserting that the collapse of the fishing industry is absolutely nothing to worry about.
  • A reminder from sunny Devon that fisherpeople are still having difficulties:
    https://theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/01/brixham-fishers-take-brexit-hit

    Any sign that this situation might ever improve? Unlikely, it seems...

    Funny how all the people who this time last year were saying fishers were a tiny and unimportant part of our economy now seem to think they’re very important indeed, isn’t it.

    No, they still don't think their industry is very important to Britain's economy. They do, though, have some degree of empathy for the fishermen who've been lied to - something, it appears, that's sadly lacking from erstwhile Vote Leave campaigners.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Leaving the EU was more important than any consequence to them. I fear that if we have to wait for Covid to be over for people to see what is happening, it will be too late
  • Funny how all the people who this time last year were saying fishers were a tiny and unimportant part of our economy now seem to think they’re very important indeed, isn’t it.

    Funny how the people who made fishermen the poster boys for Brexit are suddenly very quiet when the fishermen find out they've been screwed. I'd like to see Farage turn up on a Peterhead trawler now.

    What else are they keeping quiet about? We can't tell in our industry how much of the ongoing disruption in supplies is due to Covid and how much to Brexit. Luckily we aren't doing anything important, just developing the next generation of cancer drugs.

  • Funny how only 74% of British businesses reckon Brexit is causing them problems. A negligible proportion, so why worry?

    https://theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/11/trade-survey-finds-74-of-british-firms-hit-by-delays-with-eu-markets
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    Lord Frost's efforts to sort out our relationship with the EU seem to have been misunderstood on the other side of the channel. This proves they are not to be trusted, doesnt it?
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    The damned foreigners, I mean, of course.
  • Funny how all the people who this time last year were saying fishers were a tiny and unimportant part of our economy now seem to think they’re very important indeed, isn’t it.

    Funny how the people who made fishermen the poster boys for Brexit are suddenly very quiet when the fishermen find out they've been screwed. I'd like to see Farage turn up on a Peterhead trawler now.

    What else are they keeping quiet about? We can't tell in our industry how much of the ongoing disruption in supplies is due to Covid and how much to Brexit. Luckily we aren't doing anything important, just developing the next generation of cancer drugs.

    Yes, when Farage announced he was retiring from politics, I expected a triumphant tour of fishing ports, and other Brexit hubs. This is sarcasm.
  • Eirenist wrote: »
    Lord Frost's efforts to sort out our relationship with the EU seem to have been misunderstood on the other side of the channel. This proves they are not to be trusted, doesnt it?
    Eirenist wrote: »
    The damned foreigners, I mean, of course.

    No, you had it right first time...

  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    I should have typed in Ironics.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    ... I'd like to see Farage turn up on a Peterhead trawler now ...

    Perhaps they'd throw him overboard ... :naughty:
  • I think the disappearance of Niggly Fartrage is the one and only benefit of Brexit.

    Well, it would be, were it not for the fact that he is akin to Herpes - always lurking, and breaking out without warning...
  • Piglet wrote: »
    ... I'd like to see Farage turn up on a Peterhead trawler now ...

    Perhaps they'd throw him overboard ... :naughty:

    I hope he wouldn't be that lucky.
  • Slapped about the chops with surplus, unsellable, elderly fish (well past their best!) and then made to walk the plank.
  • PendragonPendragon Shipmate
    Or keelhaul him under the biggest boat in the harbour.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Nigel doesn’t deserve any of this. I am sure there are worse things we can think of
  • See, I'm imagining them finding him useful work and attempting to turn him into a productive member of society (Simpsons clip):
    https://youtu.be/cIosb69x9iI
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