Ship of Fools: Grace Evangelical Lutheran, Glendale, Arizona, USA
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Ship of Fools: Grace Evangelical Lutheran, Glendale, Arizona, USA
Heavenly confirmation, dour everything else, on Palm Sunday
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The newly confirmed could then take part in Easter Communion.
Of course this tradition is niot sklavishly followed everywhere.
As in some Lutheran churches, the pastor (or Dominie) does the blessing, and presumably the candidates are then admitted to Communion at the next opportunity, which may well be Easter Sunday or even Good Friday.
In case anyone wonders, I've been watching online services from one or two Dutch churches recently...
This has nothing much to do with Grace Evangelical, but it's interesting to see how practices differ from one denomination to another, even if the aim of the service is the same. It's just a shame that the rest of the service there was so uninspiring.
(FWIW, Our Place had a wonderful Confirmation one Palm Sunday a few years ago, but this was because the Bishop concerned had been snowed off the previous month, and Palm Sunday was the earliest subsequent date he could manage! He kindly allowed the candidates - all adults - to receive the Sacrament during the intervening weeks, if they wished, as he knew they were *ready and desirous* to be confirmed).
As with Confirmation these traditions are not always followed,but I digress.......
IMHO the Geneva gown is actually quite a dignified vestment, if worn (as it is in many Dutch churches) with preaching bands. However, I thought that most Lutherans these days wore albs, with stoles, and (in many cases) the traditional (!) chasuble - but I know that customs vary widely. Is Grace Evangelical perhaps a sort of low-church Lutheran place?
The brown shoes are, of course, An Abomination Before The Lord.
Yes, I noted the correctness of the red. Many places choose purple. The alb/stole/chasuble in Lutheran churches has been my observation too. Perhaps because it was not a communion service, they forewent the eucharistic vestments.
The Baby Jesus and his Blessed Mother pronounce it hose-AH-nuh. It's the first word she taught him.
Odd about the hymns, though, too. I thought Lutherans liked to sing - certainly all the Lutheran services I've been to in England have featured enthusiastic singing by choir and congregation!
In the days when confirmation was necessary before admission to Communion, confirmation on Palm Sunday allowed the confirmand to receive Communion on Maundy Thursday.
Sadly—I say this as one in a denomination where Geneva gowns are still common—the American Geneva gown, like the typical American academic, gown differs from its British/European counterpart. The American version is worn closed rather than open, is worn without a cassock (though bands are sometimes seen), and has bell sleeves rather than open sleeves. It’s not as attractive IMHO.
May we one day be able to resolve this difference.
I can't imagine it being pronounced any other way. Hosahna sounds really wrong. Like the weird people who call Mass Mahss
I have to say I prefer the modern version of the Lord's Prayer. I don't think there's any justification for dropping into 16th century English for this one item.
Think Irish, Karl
As Miss Amanda noted, that second pronunciation is common in Midwestern accents, and in some Midwestern accents, the a in the middle syllable can fall somewhere between a short a and an ee sound, with a slightly nasal tone. (Sorry, I can’t find an example.) Perhaps that is what Miss Amanda heard on Sunday—this was, after all, a congregation of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod.
I’ll see myself out, thank you.
Now back to the OP ( from a Hostly wobbly, dear Lord deliver us)
I tend to find that, in a warm church, the usual American pulpit robe also tends to be hotter than the non-air-conditioned section of Hades - like the similarly shaped American doctoral gown; however, the doctoral gown can be worn open according to the ICC. I occasionally wear one when 'moonlighting' and it has always struck me as being just the ticket for an unheated church in February, but not really helpful on a warm spring morning when some maroon (to quote Mr. B. Bunny) has turned the heat on.
What the clergy wore at the service in question is a given. If you wish to comment on it, fine. What clergy wear in other churches at other services has no bearing on this discussion. Don't make Miss Amanda lose her temper!
[stamping her foot again, more forcefully this time]
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