Prayers about War

The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
edited March 23 in Purgatory
For the past few weeks in the church where I serve as parish musician, there has been a short list at the end of The Prayers that's gone something like this:

...for peace in the Middle East...
...especially for Christians in the Middle East...
...for members of the Armed Forces...

I'm not saying that those things aren't worth praying for (mind you, I'm not really praying at all any more), but considering everything that's gone on over there recently, say from the Oct. 7 terrorist attack in 2023 forward, the above closing triptych feels as if it's glossing over a heck of a lot of stuff, not the least of which was the bombing of a school that killed scores of people, mostly young girls, which was not mentioned in any way at my parish.

What, if anything, is being prayed where you attend? Anything more than what I've shared above? What is a 'good' prayer during war? Or, if not in church, what is something you've read or heard that feels like a 'good' prayer during war?

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  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Mark Twain had a composition on this theme.
  • That prayer needs spreading.
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    Adding “For the souls of all killed in wartime, including the students and faculty at the school,” and removing “especially for Christians” would seem appropriate to me. Otherwise I think the prayers you describe above sound good to me, @The_Riv.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    We pray for peace in current conflict zones.
  • As the Orthodox use 'set' prayers from the Liturgies of St John Chrysostom or St Basil, our services include:

    'For the peace of the whole world, for the good estate of the holy churches of God, and for the union of all men (peoples) let us pray to the Lord.'

    With the response, 'Lord have mercy.'

    There are prayers for civil authorities and 'armed forces' abd for 'peaceful times.'

    During the procession of the 'Holy Gifts' around the church before the consecration of the elements clergy may pray for peace or for particular groups and individuals. I've heard prayers for NHS staff and other key workers for instance as well as general prayers for 'civil authorities and our armed forces.'

    The 'armed forces' reference can rankle with me at times - 'Are you for us or for our enemies?'

    Does praying for 'victory' involve complicity in the killing of military personnel and civilians?

    I'm reminded of the particularly blood-thirsty sermon by an Anglican bishop during WW1 with its repeated refrain, 'kill them.'

    'Whether they are young or old, able or infirm - kill them!

    Whether they are innocent or guilty- kill them!'

    And on and on it went with words to that effect and chilling, dizzying stomach-churning impact.

    I do pray for the safety of all involved in conflict and for a swift end to hostilities and 'peace in our time' - even if the Almighty appears indifferent to that cry.

    'He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth, he breaks the battle-bow and burns the chariots with fire.'

    The Orthodox view of the litany is that we simply present these set prayers before the Lord and leave them with him.

    We can pray as we wish in private prayer but in public worship it tends to be the set litanies.

    Sometimes, of course, in the face of conflict and violence there ate no words. We can only keep silent and seek however we can, to alleviate the sufferings of those caught up in conflict by donating to appropriate causes and relief efforts.

    Then there's the lobbying of governments of course. The Quakers have a long history of this.

    We can only do what we can do.

    Lord have mercy!
  • HelenEvaHelenEva Shipmate
    I've been falling back on "Lord have mercy!" a very great deal lately.
  • I tend to feel that there's little else that one can say. God doesn't need to be told what's going on.
  • Jengie JonJengie Jon Shipmate
    We pray for Christians in particular in the current war as an acknowledgement that the West's aggression has put them in particular danger. There is guilt, sorrow and helplessness mixed in with that plea.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    HelenEva wrote: »
    I've been falling back on "Lord have mercy!" a very great deal lately.
    Same here. And I’m reminded of Anne Lamott’s observation that all prayers are in essence elaborations on just three prayers: Help! Thanks! Wow!

    I find myself praying “Help!” a lot.

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    HelenEva wrote: »
    I've been falling back on "Lord have mercy!" a very great deal lately.
    Same here. And I’m reminded of Anne Lamott’s observation that all prayers are in essence elaborations on just three prayers: Help! Thanks! Wow!

    I find myself praying “Help!” a lot.

    I'm assuming "sorry" is filed under "help" for these purposes?

    I was taught Thank you - Sorry - Please as a basic structure of prayer.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    HelenEva wrote: »
    I've been falling back on "Lord have mercy!" a very great deal lately.
    Same here. And I’m reminded of Anne Lamott’s observation that all prayers are in essence elaborations on just three prayers: Help! Thanks! Wow!

    I find myself praying “Help!” a lot.

    I'm assuming "sorry" is filed under "help" for these purposes?

    I was taught Thank you - Sorry - Please as a basic structure of prayer.
    Yes, I think in various writings she either includes it as part of “Help” or makes it a fourth basic prayer.


  • I tend to feel that there's little else that one can say. God doesn't need to be told what's going on.

    Yes.

    On Our Place's website, prayers are asked 'for the people of Lebanon, Iran, Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, and other war zones world-wide'. On reflection, maybe I should include Israel in that list...

    I eschew FatherInCharge's persistent references to 'The Holy Land', but I don't know how the intercessions are worded in church.
  • ETA:

    FatherInCharge has 'those who are trying to bring peace to the Middle East, and to Ukraine' as the intention at one of the daily Masses each week, which seems a fair way of putting it.

    Not that God appears to be paying much attention...
  • 'If my people humble themselves ...'

    There is the issue of theodicy in all of this of course.

    All churches seem to include prayers for peace in their litanies and practice in some form or other.

    I remember attending a Mass at an RC retreat house when, at the sharing of 'a sign of peace' the South American chef went around shaking everyone's hands firmly in a two-handed handshake saying, 'Peace be you ... peace be you ...'

    If we were all peace to one another then the world would be a better place.

    Alright, that doesn't resolve geo-politics but ...
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    'If my people humble themselves ...'

    There is the issue of theodicy in all of this of course.

    All churches seem to include prayers for peace in their litanies and practice in some form or other.

    I remember attending a Mass at an RC retreat house when, at the sharing of 'a sign of peace' the South American chef went around shaking everyone's hands firmly in a two-handed handshake saying, 'Peace be you ... peace be you ...'

    If we were all peace to one another then the world would be a better place.

    Alright, that doesn't resolve geo-politics but ...

    On the other hand, I’m reminded of that line in Lord of the Rings that it can be the little things which do the most good…
  • Indeed.
  • Jengie JonJengie Jon Shipmate
    I eschew FatherInCharge's persistent references to 'The Holy Land', but I don't know how the intercessions are worded in church.

    If to say "Israel" is to deny "Palestine", the "Holy Land" can feel like a neutral option
  • Jengie Jon wrote: »
    I eschew FatherInCharge's persistent references to 'The Holy Land', but I don't know how the intercessions are worded in church.

    If to say "Israel" is to deny "Palestine", the "Holy Land" can feel like a neutral option

    Ah. I hadn't thought of it like that, but I see what you mean.
  • This was my prayer in our Church three weeks' ago

    Our Lord Jesus said that peacemakers would be blessed and called the Children of God. His brother James said that Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness. At a time when war continues unchecked across the world, we lift up those righteous Children of God seeking to bring peace into these complicated situations. And for your Spirit of Peace to sustain them.

    Throughout history Empires have risen and fallen, but only your Kingdom, Lord Jesus, lasts forever. We ask you Lord, to exercise your sovereign power and overthrow those empires which are led by warmongering evil old men so that their greed, ambition, and fear no longer drive war, death and destruction in your world. Amen.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited March 25
    Powerful and heartfelt words.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    On the other hand, some pray for violence and the death to others. In the name of Jesus Christ, of course.
  • The_RivThe_Riv Shipmate
    Thank you for that, @Anna_Baptist. Much appreciated, despite my deconstructed state.
  • Barnabas62Barnabas62 Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Crœsos wrote: »

    Very, very good. My education was lacking; I’d never read that before.
  • I do not pray for peace.

    An abandoned battlefield strewn with dead is peaceful. A household or nation whose members bite their tongues in silence and obedience for fear of abuse is peaceful. A graveyard is peaceful.

    I pray for harmony.

    Living, breathing harmonious life, where we live to amplify our own and each other's virtues, and to edify our own and each other's lives with all our gifts and talents.

    I pray for the harmonious resolution of all wrongs, injuries, woes and griefs.

    I pray for the music in all our hearts to be woven together in a great and glorious song of praise to the One in Whom we have our being, and in that song to also feel the deepest recognition and appreciation of each one who sings.

    AFF
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    Pray for justice.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    I do not pray for peace.

    An abandoned battlefield strewn with dead is peaceful. A household or nation whose members bite their tongues in silence and obedience for fear of abuse is peaceful. A graveyard is peaceful.
    That depends on what one means by “peace.” I would not call a household where people bite their tongues for fear of abuse “peaceful.” I think the harmony you describe is a sine qua non of peace, and that’s how I hear “peace” talked about in church, where peace is prayed for.


  • This was my prayer in our Church three weeks' ago

    Our Lord Jesus said that peacemakers would be blessed and called the Children of God. His brother James said that Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness. At a time when war continues unchecked across the world, we lift up those righteous Children of God seeking to bring peace into these complicated situations. And for your Spirit of Peace to sustain them.

    Throughout history Empires have risen and fallen, but only your Kingdom, Lord Jesus, lasts forever. We ask you Lord, to exercise your sovereign power and overthrow those empires which are led by warmongering evil old men so that their greed, ambition, and fear no longer drive war, death and destruction in your world. Amen.

    Beautiful, can I use this prayer? Do I have to mention the source?
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    This was my prayer in our Church three weeks' ago

    Our Lord Jesus said that peacemakers would be blessed and called the Children of God. His brother James said that Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness. At a time when war continues unchecked across the world, we lift up those righteous Children of God seeking to bring peace into these complicated situations. And for your Spirit of Peace to sustain them.

    Throughout history Empires have risen and fallen, but only your Kingdom, Lord Jesus, lasts forever. We ask you Lord, to exercise your sovereign power and overthrow those empires which are led by warmongering evil old men so that their greed, ambition, and fear no longer drive war, death and destruction in your world. Amen.

    Beautiful, can I use this prayer? Do I have to mention the source?

    I imagine, if you provide a bulletin, you can list the source in it. Otherwise, common decency suggests it.
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