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        <title>Epiphanies — Ship of Fools</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2026 21:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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        <title>Is God Disabled?</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6923/is-god-disabled</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2026 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Gramps49</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Just received the new issue of The Christian Century yesterday.  It's lead article was on Disability Theology.  Basically, it is the study of God through the eyes of a disabled person.  At its core, its leading theologian, Nancy Eisland points to the resurrection saying Jesus resurrected body is not perfect, it still had the wounds in the hands, feet and sides.   Even before the crucifixion, though, we can find instances of Jesus dealing with limitations.  Examples would be how did he acquire carpentry skills and his interaction with the e<br />
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I take it Disability Theology does not see a disability as an obstacle to be overcome, but as a lens through which we experience God in different ways, like how feminine theology has allowed us to find the feminine side of God.  As such, it reinterprets a number of the healing miracles.<br />
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The discipline is not new.  It started up in the 80s from what I can see.<br />
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Many of us have admitted some of the barriers we have.  Some of them are medical.  Others are social, but, but, ultimately, we all have limitations.  For me, the question is not how do we reach perfection, but how God uses our imperfections for his ultimate good?<br />
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This is something I am wanting to explore more.  I hope this can be an interesting exploration for everyone too.<br />
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<a href="https://joniandfriends.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/BYS-01-A-Theological-Introduction-to-Disability.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://joniandfriends.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/BYS-01-A-Theological-Introduction-to-Disability.pdf</a><br />
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<a href="https://www.christiancentury.org/books/when-ableism-and-racism-intertwine" rel="nofollow">https://www.christiancentury.org/books/when-ableism-and-racism-intertwine</a><br />
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The article I was reading is not yet online.  But these two links do give you a taste for what Disability Theology is like.]]>
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        <title>Toward a coherent theory of fascism and child abuse</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6934/toward-a-coherent-theory-of-fascism-and-child-abuse</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 13:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Bullfrog</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Here's an uncomfortably thought-out article laying out - in detail - the relationship between child sexual abuse and current conservative ideology.<br />
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[ UK libel law is much stricter than US -linking to a libel likely falls under repeating the libel. See host post - L Epiphanies host</i> ]<br />
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<div>The time for polite pretense is long over. Pedocon theory is not about a unique kind of mental illness that just happens to be concentrated in the Republican Party. It is not about &quot;uncontrollable animal urges.&quot; It is about how racial anxieties and obsessions, fantasies of patriarchal domination and control, lead inexorably towards the idea that women and children exist for men's use—including sexual use. Pedophilia is simply this libidinal obsession with power and domination put into practice.</div>
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I've been hearing, since high school, an obsession among political conservatives with childhood sexual abuse. And I've heard for years of the scandals erupting in churches, and this is hardly unique to the Roman Catholics (as the article acknowledges, to my appreciation.)<br />
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And it just seemed...well...weird to me that this was such a fixation. I've known victims. I've been through trainings on the topic in seminary and at my job (Catholic employer.) I've heard of Michael Jackson and I have enough psychology and comfort-with-discomfort to kind of put together a sense of how a guy can end up like that.<br />
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But I've never before seen it put together as a thesis tying political ideology so directly. This is extreme rape culture, and I think it makes sense.<br />
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I am sure this thread deserve all the trigger warnings, hence Epiphanies, but anyone else seeing this? ]]>
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        <title>UK officially fucks Trans kids over</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/5108/uk-officially-fucks-trans-kids-over</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>KarlLB</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<a href="https://twitter.com/TabitaSurge/status/1670695396547481600" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/TabitaSurge/status/1670695396547481600</a><br />
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One take home from this - if kids or staff want to abuse trans kids by misgendering them, there's diddly-squat anyone can do about it.<br />
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Bullies please form an orderly line...]]>
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        <title>When your child stops talking to you</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6887/when-your-child-stops-talking-to-you</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Rufus T Firefly</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[We have two adult children. When we moved to Canada in 2014, our son stopped communicating with us. Nothing. We kept in partial contact through his then girlfriend. My wife even flew back after a few years and spent a week tracking him down and trying to resolve matters. We thought that this had succeeded, especially when we then paid for him to fly out to us in Canada. His visit seemed to go well but as soon as he returned, he shut us off again and we didn't hear anything.<br />
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When we returned to the UK, he suddenly got in contact, asking for money to clear some debts. We had to say no, as we were still getting our lives sorted out and we had to buy a house. After that, nothing again.<br />
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We were then contacted by his now ex-girlfriend, who told us that he had suddenly cut off all communication with her. She had a lot of his stuff and wanted to know if she should send it to us. In the end, nothing came of that and I have no idea what had happened to this stuff.<br />
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About 12 months later, she contacted us again. Our son had still been working for her brother. He had not turned up for work for a few days and so the brother got worried and called the police, who went round to check on where he was living. They got back to him later simply to say that they wouldn't be taking the matter any further.<br />
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So right now we have no idea where he is or what he is doing. And it is highly doubtful that he know where we are, as we moved house 18 months ago.<br />
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When he cut us off completely after his visit to Canada, I had a long chat about this with my bishop. He told me that a similar thing had happened to him and his wife - one of their children vanishes for months or even years at a time. Then, out of the blue, he will turn up for a few days and then wanders off again. My bishop was very open about how he and his wife coped with this and it was very helpful for us.<br />
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Funnily enough, over the course of the next few months, I came across a number of other people who had experienced the same sort of thing - a child who had just cut off all contact and whom they never knew where they were or what they were up to. In some cases, there was a clear breaking point; an incident that had resulted in the split. But in the majority of cases, it was like us - no real discernible reason for being cut off.<br />
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One of the ways we have had to learn to cope with this is by simply not talking about him unless someone else mentions him. We can't spend our whole lives wondering what is happening or why he has done this - not just to us but to others too. But we have had to make other arrangements, as well. For a variety of reasons, we decided to amend our wills so that he will not inherit anything when we die. Most will go to our daughter and some will go to two &quot;chosen grandchildren&quot;. In addition, our daughter and the mother of the chosen grandchildren (who is a very dear friend) will be co-executors and also have power of attorney. We have instructed the friend that her role will primarily be to act as buffer between our daughter and our son (should he come looking for an inheritance).<br />
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But what will we do if he decides to get back in contact with us? That's difficult to think about. For a start, we are agreed that there will be no financial bail-outs. We have done this before and I know my daughter would be outraged if we did it again, especially as we paid for him to visit us in Canada and yet every time she visited us, she paid her own way (and was happy to do so).<br />
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I think that, after all this time and all that we have been through, we would have to be careful about how we let him back into our lives. I would be very wary about him moving in with us, for example. And I would want to know that he was serious about addressing some of the things that he has done - not just to us but to his ex-girlfriend and to his sister. I suspect that we would also need a lot of family counselling to work through all sorts of issues.<br />
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I could go on about some of the aspects of all of this but will leave it here for now. But I wanted to raise it here because I am very aware that more people than we realise go through this sort of thing and often keep it hidden, partly through shame and partly because you just don't want to talk much about such a painful thing. But I do know that talking to others who had experienced  similar family breakdowns was helpful for us - if just to get the reassurance that we weren't the only ones and that we weren't such bad parents after all.]]>
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        <title>Alone</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/5912/alone</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2024 15:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Many of us find ourselves living alone. Some through choice, some through circumstance, some through bereavement.<br />
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For me, intimate relationships just seemed to stop happening around 20 years ago and I have no expectation (and increasingly no wish) for that to change. But <b>alone</b> <i>sometimes</i> means opportunity, and <i>sometimes</i> means loneliness.<br />
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It’s likely that people’s experiences will be quite varied.<br />
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I thought it would be good to explore this in a supportive way, perhaps:<br />
1. sharing stories of how we came to be alone;<br />
2. relating how we got through a transition to alone-ness;<br />
3. noting positives that we may have crafted from our circumstances, such as meaningful solitude.<br />
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Other lines of conversation about alone-ness are welcome of course.]]>
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        <title>How to cope with the possibility of Hell</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6248/how-to-cope-with-the-possibility-of-hell</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2025 17:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>stonespring</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[If you are absolutely convinced that Hell doesn’t exist, then this thread may not seem to have much of a point.<br />
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But if you think it at least might exist, and that it might be eternal and inescapable as traditionally thought, how do you cope with that possibility?<br />
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I know that part of this is a mental health issue for me, but I have had to deal with the existential terror of the possibility of Hell for me or anyone else since childhood, when my mother taught me that she DIDN’T think it existed. Just the thought that other people thought it existed and that my mother might be wrong and they might be right helped make me a very anxious, very depressed child.<br />
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Upon adolescence, I convinced myself that there couldn’t possibly be a Hell, and believed in my mother’s idea of reincarnation, or at least an afterlife not unlike this life even if maybe not in this world. But upon adulthood, I began to rebel against my parents and some of the clearly wrong things they believed (which are not worth going into). So I had to face the possibility that Hell might exist again.<br />
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Even if I think that God is so merciful that He is likely to give me the benefit of the doubt if I try earnestly to pursue truth and goodness in my life, there remains the possibility that other souls are in Hell or may go there and that is enough to keep me up at night. I don’t think anyone I love is in Hell or likely to go there. But even the thought that Hitler or someone else who did the most evil things in history might be there makes me so upset that it is hard to function sometimes. Even the thought that the Devil is in Hell makes me despondent. I try to tell myself that the Devil doesn’t have a body so it’s hard to imagine what the experience of Hell might be for an angel, but it is still extremely upsetting.<br />
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Arguments that Hell doesn’t exist or that maybe God can release people from Hell don’t help me, because awareness of the possibility is enough to paralyze me.<br />
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I don’t want reassurance that He’ll doesn’t exist then. I just wonder, for people who maybe don’t experience this as a matter of mental health, how do you cope with the thought of the possibility of Hell, even if you think it is unlikely?]]>
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        <title>Free Range Parenting</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6877/free-range-parenting</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Gramps49</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[News item:  Child Protective Services in Maryland charge the parents of a 6 and 10 year old for child neglect because they allowed their children to walk unsupervised a half mile from a local park home.  <a href="https://wjla.com/news/local/silver-spring-parents-charged-with-child-neglect-for-allowing-kids-to-walk-home-alone-112094" rel="nofollow">https://wjla.com/news/local/silver-spring-parents-charged-with-child-neglect-for-allowing-kids-to-walk-home-alone-112094</a><br />
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Historical memory:  How many of us remember playing unsupervised with other kids either in the neighborhood, at a park, or even across town?<br />
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Seems like over the years parents have become so hypervigilant, needing to know where their kids are at one time.  Kids these days go from one organized activity to another with very little down personal time.  Either that, or they are so focused on playing games on their phone, they have little creative time.<br />
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Maybe we should advocate for Free Range Parenting.  For younger kids, close to home, but as the kids get older let the range expand.  After all, it is not like we don't have the capability to track them with trackers you can place in their clothing or on their smart phones.  Maybe we should tell middle schoolers get out of the house and don't come back till the street lights come on.<br />
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There are many advantages to allowing kids to have independent thought, take some risk, interact with the world on their own.<br />
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Yes, there are risks.  But parenting means preparing the kids to know what to do in some situations.<br />
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<a href="https://www.choosingtherapy.com/free-range-parenting/" rel="nofollow">https://www.choosingtherapy.com/free-range-parenting/</a><br />
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<a href="https://psychcentral.com/blog/do-kids-have-too-much-freedom#recap" rel="nofollow">https://psychcentral.com/blog/do-kids-have-too-much-freedom#recap</a><br />
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Placing this in Epiphanies because I think what I have said can evoke some personal experiences both positive and negative.]]>
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        <title>Fooling our immune system against fascism? 'Philosemitism' and other far right tactics</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6845/fooling-our-immune-system-against-fascism-philosemitism-and-other-far-right-tactics</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 12:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[How do we protect ourselves against clever weaponisation by fascists of our own liberal ideas to fool us and promote fascism and attacks on their targets?<br />
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'Philosemitism' of the sort we see in American far right circles as discussed on the war in the middle east thread is in fact antisemitic (as multiple Jewish writers point out) and is also deliberately used as a strategy by the far right to fool people into not seeing the far right as the Nazis and fascists they are and recoiling immediately from them.<br />
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This is about disguising what the far right and fascists are and enabling their attacks on Muslims and others, but represents itself as being about protecting Jews.<br />
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It's a similar tactic to using 'freedom of speech' as a dogwhistle for what are actually blatant harassing attacks on women and minorities or pretending attacks on trans people are about 'women's rights'<br />
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These are ways of beating liberal/ centrist media 'immune systems' against fascism by disguising aspects of it as benign liberal concepts. It strategically wraps itself up in women's rights, freedom of speech and defending Israel's current far right government - representing that as defending all Jews.<br />
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Here's a key part of the executive summary from Hannah Rose of King's College London's long report on 'Philosemitism' Jews and the Far Right (it's a PDF). I've bolded some bits<br />
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<a href="https://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ICSR-Report-The-New-Philosemitism-Exploring-a-Changing-Relationship-Between-Jews-and-the-Far-Right.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://icsr.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ICSR-Report-The-New-Philosemitism-Exploring-a-Changing-Relationship-Between-Jews-and-the-Far-Right.pdf</a><br />

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• This new wave of Philosemitism is not a genuine and sincere positioning, but a strategic tool used by the far‑right in order to present itself as liberal and mainstream, gain support and engage in a ‘divide and conquer’ tactic among minority communities.</b><br />
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Far-right Reframings of Jewishness<br />
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• A shift from antisemitism to philosemitism has originated from a fundamental re‑imagining of Jewishness, where Jews and Judaism are understood through far‑right framings in order to legitimise existing ideologies. For example, by seeing Jews as European, pro‑Israel and anti‑Muslim, the far‑right allows itself to align philosemitism to its own interests.<br />
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• In this way, deliberately positive sentiments of Jews based on stereotypes are rooted in the same processes as antisemitism, whereby the two phenomena are two sides of the same coin.  </b><br />
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• Strategies of ‘Collective Action Framing’ are used to impose a Christian‑derived framing of Jewishness onto Jewish people<br />
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• ‘Frame Extension’, in the case of the radical right’s understanding of Israel as a European frontier against the Arab world, is used to expand far‑right ideology beyond its primary interests in order to appeal to a wider audience.<br />
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• ‘Frame Bridging’ sees Jews as anti‑Muslim and therefore an ally in the war against Muslims.<br />
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• ‘Frame Transformation’ has generated a shift from ethnic to cultural nationalism. Towards a New Wave of Philosemitism<br />
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• A new era of far‑right relations with Jews has emerged in a specific political context, where the growth of identity‑based politics has generated a new notion of nationhood, based on the concept of a shared culture, which includes Jews as part of an imagined Judeo‑Christian civilisation.<br />
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• As collective consciousness of the Holocaust emerged towards the end of the 20th century, it has been necessary for the radical right to attempt to distance itself from historical antisemitism and avoid association with Nazi and neo‑Nazi elements in order to achieve relevance. Four coping mechanisms can be identified: guilt comparison, victim reversal, Holocaust revisionism, and erasure.<br />
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• Processes of reciprocal radicalisation shared understandings of Israel as European, anti‑Muslim and militaristic between the  far‑right and the far‑left and Islamist ideologies – have resulted in the entrenching of pro‑Israel narratives into the far‑right. </b></div>
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It certainly beats our political immune systems quite well as people who'd never stand for Nazis will rush in to defend their 'freedom of speech' if someone puts a MAGA hat on it or pretends it's just 'being a conservative', despite the regime not only following the philosemitic antisemitism play book but also giving crucial posts to old school conspiratorial antisemites.<br />
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Being raised on WW2 history, as those of us of a certain generation were has, I think, in some ways backfired - fascism has become so popularly identified with swastikas and genocide of Jews that when it wraps itself in an Israeli flag, even when it already has concentration camps (in their original pre final solution form) and is pursuing expansionist war and media take-over for propaganda for a supreme leader it seems to succeed in many cases in fooling a democratic/liberal immune system which is meant to be primed against it into not recognising it as needing the same fight-back as Nazis.<br />
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At what point do we acknowledge that Trumpism is a modern day fascism? If we oppose platforming Nazis why do so many of us defend platforming Trumpists, and via that their attacks on women, minorities in our societies, people of colour elsewhere ( hit by DOGE cuts in aid) and Muslims who arent their petrodollar pals?<br />
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What's the difference, apart from they've not enacted a 'final solution' for American minorities yet? Do we have to wait for actual genocide when we see the precursors? Isn't the whole point of 'never again' to stop it before it gets to that point?<br />
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And where is our line for platforming them? At what point do you just say 'hell no' I'm not giving them a platform to spread these dehumanising and deadly attitudes and ideologies?<br />
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        <title>UK government takes aim at ADHD/Autistic people</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6868/uk-government-takes-aim-at-adhd-autistic-people</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 11:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Having already targeted trans people for persecution and government- backed pseudoscience to strip them of appropriate medical treatment, the UK government are using the same playbook to go after neurodivergent people - especially kids.<br />
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This was mentioned previously both here and on the Wes Streeting thread in Hell.<br />
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Basically despite recent and overwhelming scientific findings to the contrary, Streeting apparently doesn't like those results and so has appointed an alarming team to do him what looks suspiciously like a Cass style review on us -  including the main person who horrifically damaged people with ME with his opinions on graded exercise.<br />
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As <a href="http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/profile/chrisstiles" rel="nofollow">@chrisstiles</a> said<br />

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<div><a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/profile/chrisstiles">chrisstiles</a> wrote: <a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/762372#Comment_762372">»</a></div>
<div>There are some early indications that it'll be run on a similar basis to the Cass review:<br />
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<a href="https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/alarm-over-governments-choices-to-lead-over-diagnosis-review-that-could-help-ministers-cut-benefits/" rel="nofollow">https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/alarm-over-governments-choices-to-lead-over-diagnosis-review-that-could-help-ministers-cut-benefits/</a><br />
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There was a narrower investigation by NHS England that concluded that adhd at least is probably underdiagnosed: <a href="https://www.england.nhs.uk/long-read/report-of-the-independent-adhd-taskforce-part-1/" rel="nofollow">https://www.england.nhs.uk/long-read/report-of-the-independent-adhd-taskforce-part-1/</a><br />
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Perhaps that result wasn't politically convenient.</div>
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And as I said<br />

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By the time a well-massaged report hits newspapers and media who lap it up and trumpet it, it's too late. Streeting can weep crocodile tears about how his hand has been forced and the press will totally cover for him. I'd look at what he does and what he's done - not just what he says.<br />
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If he had genuinely changed his views he would stop this review and respond to the research already there which shows underdiagnosis, and he would tackle the well-known barriers that stop ADHD  folk especially accessing diagnosis and meds. This stuff isnt a mystery.<br />
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Streeting has already shown what he is by how he treated trans people. Nobody should trust him after that.</div>
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Well now it begins -<br />
Streeting's hit squad just came back with an interim report which has been spun on the front page of The Times - the same newspaper that did the heavy lifting on spreading the persecution and smearing of trans people.<br />
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They know the overdiagnosis stuff is not true and that there's actually  huge underdiagnosis because the services are under-resourced so all they've got is innuendo about 'incentivisation' and 'self diagnosis' and 'medicalisation of distress' - so basically all the dogwhistles for 'these people are putting it on and faking.'<br />
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It comes in the wake of a well known credentialled dinosaur ( apologies to dinosaurs) giving a woefully wrongheaded and out of date interview to the TES to attack late diagnosed Autistic people - especially women- and something notable about this was that the attack was taken up and spread by leading activists who persecute trans people and who have access to prestigious media platforms.<br />
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There is a significant overlap between autistic people and LGBT+ people- so there's  been anti-autistic rhetoric in the anti-trans movement from the start - trying to say young trans people are 'just' autistic and trying to use prejudiced notions about autism to then strip their agency away from them to say they cant know their own gender.<br />
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But now it's got worse - and part of it seems to hang on the trans persecutors hatred of self-ID which they want to use to force trans people through discriminatory and damaging medical hoops to make life harder for them.<br />
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Because it's so hard and the waiting lists are so long to get a diagnosis if you're neurodivergent, a lot of people have to self-ID as they try to get access to help. So the chief anti-trans activists seem to have have seized on this too ( People like Helen Lewis and Kathleen Stock)<br />
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I'm honestly tired of this. I'm glad I backed trans people before their opponents really started coming for me too and I'm angry at the 'friends' who were taken in by them and especially at those who allowed these harmful bullying bigots to present themselves as 'feminists' and those who keep taking this line. I'm a woman - I'm not 'protected' - I'm attacked.<br />
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I dont know what these people are - they seem to hate autonomy and difference in others, or perhaps they're just social conservatives who want to bully things back to how they were in some imaginary golden age in their heads? When 'men were men and women were women' and autistic people were neither seen nor heard from because we were in institutions or forced to shut up and suffer till we went mad trying to be square pegs in round holes in a society which didn't accommodate us. These people make me sick - and the newspapers and media that platform them, and the political parties that harbour them and do their bidding.<br />
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I dont want to post this in Hell as it's so raw and personal for me but I cannot believe that this is what the Labour party have come to. That they are active enemies of so many people in our society and that they have chosen bullies and bigots and their lies over large groups of harmless people, many of whom previously voted for them.<br />
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What's the solution? What's the best way to fight them and the press and media who promote these moral panics? What makes them so effective?<br />
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When I work with local University students they know about neurodivergence and cheerfully accomodate me and I them because they've not drunk in this particular poison. When I work with older people I have to be a bit more careful because they can and sometimes do hold prejudiced views or just aren't aware about accommodating people- and they're the group most likely to read these newspapers or to consume 'both sides' traditional media which will treat Streeting's attacks with kid gloves.<br />
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What can we all do to fight this?<br />
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I'm changing my vote, as though not as bad as Labour, the SNP has not done as well as the Greens in opposing this and I'm taking the risk of being out more so people can put a known face to those Labour and the media are attacking. I know many others have it much worse but I'm so tired of this.<br />
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        <title>Heritage &amp; Belonging</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Arethosemyfeet</dc:creator>
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<div>I'm well aware of wanting to feel attached to a distinct culture, because I feel it too. I'm a new Scot, born in England no less, and an incomer to an island community. I don't - can't - claim the heritage of my home island as my own, I don't feel I have that right (and if I did there are folk who'd soon set me straight), but I was born in a part of England where neither of my parents grew up (and no longer live) and don't feel that's my heritage. For a time I reached for my grandfather's Welsh identity, but that could never be really &quot;mine&quot; either.</div>
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I wonder if it's possible to &quot;own&quot; a particular culture and heritage if one hasn't grown up with it. I think there is a power dynamic here: as an educated middle class English white guy I represent the dominant, homogenised culture which has a long history of trampling on and denigrating other cultures then looting them for shiny things (both literally and metaphorically).<br />
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I envy those who can say &quot;my ancestors lived here longer than anyone can remember, my great grandfather built this house and I have a box with his rent receipts for the croft because he didn't trust the Factor.&quot; I hope that what I am offering to my daughter is a chance at that, if not for her then any children she might have. We've just finished building our house, Little Miss Feet is in Gaelic Medium Education, and it might be that she is able to feel that this island and its heritage are &quot;hers&quot;.]]>
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        <title>Separate schooling for girls</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 11:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>System</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[This discussion was created from comments split from: <a rel="nofollow" href="/discussion/6820/sacrificing-nd-disabled-kids-and-adults-for-principle/">Sacrificing ND/ disabled kids and adults for 'principle'</a>.]]>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 18:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/profile/Pomona">Pomona</a> wrote: <a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/778165#Comment_778165">»</a></div>
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A lot of areas in the UK have very poor SEND provision, and a lot of private schools do much better there. I can't fault any parent of disabled children opting for the private sector given the shit-show in the state sector, particularly given the issues with Academy schools and ableism.<br />
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I don't think there's anything wrong with sending your child to private school while also working to improve the state sector. I don't see why that should be seen as strange or hypocritical. I don't personally think that private schools are inherently bad, I think the problem comes from privately educated people being disproportionately favoured by certain areas of society. The solution is to improve state schools to the same level, especially in access to the arts.</div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/profile/Leorning%20Cniht">Leorning Cniht</a> wrote: <a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/778211#Comment_778211">»</a></div>
<div>There's a difference between the position &quot;state schools should be better&quot; and the position &quot;the way to improve state schools is to force the rich to send their children to them&quot;. If you hold the latter position, and still send your personal children to a public school, you are indeed a massive hypocrite.</div>
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Nope I'm with Pomona on this one, ND kids die are badly harmed or are deprived of all education because the state schools system is not just underfunded but often deeply ablist.<br />
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I agree in theory that the state system would be better if the rich had to use state schools and state schools were better funded and if the old boy/ girl private school networks which affect the judiciary and media and other sectors were eroded but one-size-fits all education on the cheap can be deadly.<br />
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Similar decisions have to be made with health. I never ever thought I'd go private until NHS institutional ablism traumatised me and could have killed me by making me too terrified to get treatment for something that was likely to turn cancerous without it.<br />
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If principle means leaving a neurodivergent person to suffer hells neuromajority folk can't know from the inside for 'principle' - then there's  something wrong with the principle.<br />
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Just recently I saw a crowdfunder for someone with really really bad ME whose life is apparently in danger because the person in charge of her case at the NHS hospital  where she is subscribes to the old snake oil theories about it and she is in danger of a very painful death and people are trying to fundraise to get her out of there.<br />
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Ablism is a terrible thing and people die from it if means of rescue isnt available.<br />
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If we only have imperfect means of rescue, then that's what we've got until better provision is available than crowdfunding.<br />
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So I think you can be against the disproportionate influence of some private schools and think money shouldn't buy influence and against a private sector model replacing the NHS but in the meantime before the Revolution comes, so to speak, I think not letting people die or be seriously harmed by ablism has to be a more important principle and I dont think it's  hypocritical for people in survival and serious harm situations to do what they have to to save their lives and stop their mental and physical health being destroyed. ]]>
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        <title>A boy in a dress</title>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[I feel like I cant speak to this in Purgatory without getting into Epiphanies issues<br />
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Risk of person who thinks nobody who isnt a woman should wear a dress getting beat up for that - basically zero. If they bring it up they might get disapproved of or told that's bigoted but nobody will physically beat them up or spit on them for their gendered dressing habits and they can go about their ordinary business wearing their preferred garments without harm.<br />
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Risk of man or non binary person or other person not read as a woman getting beaten up or otherwise nastily accosted in public for wearing a dress- a significant risk and I know and am close to people who are closeted because of it - and I am angry when I think of the increased risk of violence to my loved ones caused by those who stoked the anti-transgender moral panic which helps legitimise this kind of violence.<br />
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People who disapprove of a boy in a dress are not at anything like the same risk as he is and thanks to the recent wave of anti-trans propaganda, he is at much greater risk.<br />
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So while yes people have a right to not dress in a dress or to disapprove of those they read as male wearing a dress, in practice the way many of them have gone about it has endangered people and does real harm - it's  very far from harmless<br />
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So those who go about trying to make out a boy in a dress is harming people while ignoring the harm these attitudes cause are in my book overlooking the 'power' and bullying side of the question. Anti-trans attitudes are often expressed this way and they have powerful political and media interests behind them. Those making a fuss about a boy in a dress are siding with the bullies and moral panickers against people who yes are in practice harmless and not coming for anyone else's right to dress as they see fit.  This isnt a ' both sides' question, it's one of asymmetrical damage - gender nonconforming people are at far greater risk.<br />
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        <title>Sarco Pod used for first time as American woman takes her own life</title>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 26 Sep 2024 14:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>The_Riv</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[*Fair Warning* -- descriptions of the device's function as well as the passing of its user are contained in the linked article: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/sep/24/several-detained-in-switzerland-over-suicide-capsule-death-police-say" rel="nofollow">The Guardian.</a><br />
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There was a time when I'd have been wholeheartedly against such a device. The older I've grown, however, the more I find myself opening, albeit slowly, to the idea of determining and carrying out one's ultimate end. What are your thoughts? ]]>
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        <title>Moved: Higher Education</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6822/moved-higher-education</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 22:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Doublethink</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[This discussion has been <a rel="nofollow" href="https://forums.shipoffools.com/discussion/6821/higher-education">moved</a>.]]>
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        <title>Parental roles and responsibilities, especially with young adult children.</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>Puzzler</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Situations with my children and grandchildren have made me think about parenthood today and parents’ responsibilities towards their children, especially when these are still living at home as young adults.<br />
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How can parents responsibly enable their young adult children to become independent? What does their parental role then become, particularly if they have previously seen themselves as providers?]]>
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        <title>What's in a name?</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6796/whats-in-a-name</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Bullfrog</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[I got some friends, old and distant now, who are Native American. And I know from conversation that they're sensitive about words like &quot;Indian.&quot; &quot;Indian&quot; is also confusing to me because I live in a neighborhood that contains a lot of people who are actually from <i>India</i>. And they are also Indian, though I wouldn't generally think to call people Indians. *<br />
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And then there's this road in my neighborhood, if you look at old maps it used to be called &quot;Indian Boundary Road,&quot; because it marks the exact line where the northern edge of Chicago used to be, and where the land granted to the Pottawatomie Tribe used to end. That was, of course, before they were exiled from the region and forced out west, a nasty business to be sure. If you draw a straight line, you will find a local landmark called &quot;Indian Boundary Park&quot; and have a rough area of my general geographical locale. It's a lovely park. They kept the name for the park, but the road is now called Rogers Avenue. I guess someone got embarrassed. But the history is worth keeping and I think there's something lost in renaming the road after a white guy of local historical importance.<br />
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The preferred word, I'm told by these friends of mine, is &quot;Native American.&quot; It's more respectful. They're not from India. They are not Indians. I've been in the habit of using the expression &quot;Native&quot; when referring to the culture. For peak courtesy, refer to the actual tribe, such as &quot;Navajo&quot; or &quot;S'klallam&quot; or &quot;Pottawatomie.&quot;<br />
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Now, I do have some friends, some who are here, who get sensitive about this rule because they do know Native folks (my word) who are fine with the word &quot;Indian,&quot; or they know local reservations or tribes who use that word and honestly? I don't much mind. I use &quot;Native&quot; because the folks I know personally are touchy and I tend to err on the side of politeness when I'm dealing with other people's cultures. But I'm not inclined to declare myself the white defender of other people's cultures. I just try to do what I think is right and be respectful.<br />
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What's the morality here? What's the ethical framework? Is there one?<br />
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I'm sure we can find different opinions among Native voices on this one. <a href="https://www.oklahoman.com/story/special/2021/04/22/what-do-native-people-prefer-called/4831284001/" rel="nofollow">If you want a source, I think this one sets up my sense of the conversation very nicely.</a><br />
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<a href="https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2025/07/24/tyler-childers-finally-reveals-the-real-reason-why-he-wont-play-feathered-indians-anymore-its-not-what-you-think/" rel="nofollow">And here's a white guy who I think did a classy thing. </a> I respect him a lot and think he's a fine musician, not claiming it's &quot;own voice.&quot; But he makes a good case study.<br />
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Feel free to add your own.<br />
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* Tangentially, I do think there's something pernicious about referring to a person as an identity. I guess I'm a Christian, but it's a little weird if you treat me like that's my ontology, especially if you're a stranger. I'm not keen on being an American these days. Per jokes, I'll take &quot;hick,&quot; sometimes, but only in jest.** <img src="http://forums.shipoffools.com/resources/emoji/wink.png" title=":wink:" alt=":wink:" height="20" /><br />
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** &quot;White man of Appalachian extraction&quot; would be far more politically correct, and please pardon me while I extract my tongue from my cheek. That's a joke. Are you not entertained? ]]>
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        <title>Her name was Sally Hemings</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 22:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>pease</dc:creator>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/profile/Bullfrog">Bullfrog</a> wrote: <a rel="nofollow" href="/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/772583#Comment_772583">»</a></div>
<div>To the discussion of Jefferson, my purpose was not to discuss slavery directly, but to bring up a very powerful example of a man who was clearly very contemplative in his life and yet also marked by some rather glaring hypocrisy. His contemplation did not prevent him from being positively horrible to other human beings who, it seems, he was on some level aware of as humans.<br />
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Far as the bounds of the discussion, I will happily defer to a <b>host</b> in this matter. You need not apologize, since you lack that authority.</div>
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On these forums, the basic idea regarding identity issues is treating people with respect. That includes not introducing them into a discussion as tangents, or using them to make a point about a different issue. Referring to an unequitable relationship between two people in order to illustrate man's capacity for hypocrisy reduces the relationship itself to a rhetorical device. When the example depends on a drastic power imbalance, and the dehumanising nature of chattel slavery, and when the relative importance of the two people is indicated by giving one of them a name while referring to the other as a slave who happened to be involved in the production of a child, it's hard to see how respect has been allocated equitably.<br />
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We not only know Sally Hemings' name, we know quite a lot about her life. From Sally Hemings' son, Madison Hemings:
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<div>My mother accompanied her [Jefferson's daughter, Maria] as her body servant. When Mr. Jefferson went to France Martha was a young woman grown, my mother was about her age, and Maria was just budding into womanhood. Their stay (my mother and Maria's) was about eighteen months. But during that time my mother became Mr. Jefferson's concubine, and when he was called home she was <i>enceinte</i> by him. He desired to bring my mother back to Virginia with him but she demurred. She was just beginning to understand the French language well, and in France she was free, while if she returned to Virginia she would be re-enslaved. So she refused to return with him. To induce her to do so he promised her extraordinary privileges, and made a solemn pledge that her children should be freed at the age of twenty-one years. In consequence of his promises, on which she implicitly relied, she returned with him to Virginia.<br />
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<i>Madison Hemings recollections, Pike County Republican, 13 Mar. 1873.</i></div>
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Annette Gordon-Reed on the nature of Jefferson and Hemings' relationship:
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<div>That a black woman in slavery would seek out a relationship with a slave master, or if not seek it out, not run away from it, is not a particularly attractive idea. Some view such a person as a traitor, giving the ultimate aid and comfort to the enemy. Our notions about women and sexuality probably play a major role in our discomfort about these situations. Sex between a slave master and a woman who was a slave has always been seen differently than sex between a slave mistress and a man who was a slave, both by whites and blacks. Whites tolerated the former because it posed no real threat to the established order. They claimed it did, but they did not react against it with the same vehemence that they did to relationships between slave males and white women, which were seen as threatening the social order and could never be tolerated. .... Most blacks probably would consider a slave woman who voluntarily joined a relationship with her master as a collaborator. On the other hand, they might see a black man who had a relationship with a white mistress as a rebel who was striking at the heart of the slave system. These ideas, rooted in our visions of sex roles, may have some validity as far as generalizations go. They do not take into account the differing circumstances and contexts in which such relationships could arise. Therefore, we should not allow them to control any serious consideration of an individual case.<br />
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<i>Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy</i>.</div>
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        <title>Trauma and Agency</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 21:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>System</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[This discussion was created from comments split from: <a rel="nofollow" href="/discussion/6248/how-to-cope-with-the-possibility-of-hell/">How to cope with the possibility of Hell</a>.]]>
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        <title>Faking it online</title>
        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6580/faking-it-online</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2025 08:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>pease</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[I've long been intrigued about people joining online forums using fake personas. Not as a means to an end (eg catfishing or creating a false identity), but for the primary purpose of engaging in public discussion, interacting with other members, while adopting an inauthentic role.<br />
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Given the formative effect that people using fake personas has had on these forums, my question isn't primarily about why individuals would do this, but the effect that this has on online communities and the ways in which online communities can and do respond.]]>
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        <title>About the Rob and Michele Reiner deaths</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 00:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Gramps49</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[As everyone knows. Rob and Michele Reiner were found dead in their home.  Initial reports said medical personnel were called to their home in Brentwood.  When I heard that, I knew almost immediately this was not going to be good.  It has now come out that their daughter found them with multiple stab wounds.  Six hours later, their son, Nick, was arrested for allegedly murdering his parents.<br />
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<a href="https://people.com/rob-reiner-son-got-in-a-big-fight-conan-obrien-party-before-murders-sources-11869272" rel="nofollow">People Magazine</a> reports Nick got into a very loud and confrontational argument with Rob at a Christmas party the night before the murders.<br />
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When this part of the story came out, it brought back some memories I had of my parents and my brother.  My youngest brother was alcoholic (he is now deceased).  When he was not drinking, one would think he was the meekest person on earth.  When he was roaring drunk he was very dangerous, especially if he were driving.  My folks tried everything they could have to support him.  They often allowed him to stay over at their place if he was too drunk to drive home.  Some of those nights were very weird.  Brother would often sleep walk.  There were nights he would enter their bedroom and just stand there.  Often I did not hear of the stories until much later.   Since both parents are also gone now, I will probably never know about what happened.<br />
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But the stories would make the back of my hair stand on end.  While brother was alive, I really feared for my parents' safety.  The more I hear about how Rob and Michele would have done anything to help their son with multiple failures, I think my parents could have had similar deaths.<br />
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I am posting this because I want to warn everyone if they are dealing with a chemically dependent person who can be especially dangerous when they are actively using or heavily drinking it is probably not in the interest of their own safety to allow their loved one into their homes.  I actually think it might be advisable to have a no contact order on the person, espcially if they verbally threaten or actively get physical in any way.<br />
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As much as I loved my brother and was very concerned about his drinking (maybe also drugging), I loved my parents more and was very concerned for their safety.<br />
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        <title>Trump officially Fucks Trans Kids Over</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 21:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Gramps49</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[There is an ongoing discussion how Transkids are being fucked over in the UK.  Thought I would start a similar thread about the US.<br />
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Trump henceforth has proclaimed there are only two genders in the US and has signed an executive order to that effect.<br />
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No doubt it is going to be challenged if not already.<br />
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But, it's not only happening in the UK.  We do not have to look beyond our shores.  I would say 25 states agree with him.  But there are a number of other states that will defend the rights of transkids.<br />
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Talk about a dictator for a day.<br />
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        <title>How do we resist institutional attacks on trans people?</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 12:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[So the Girl Guides and Women's Institute have caved and are excluding trans women as members - blaming the Supreme Court ruling.<br />
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<a href="https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/12/03/girlguiding-trans-girls-ban-petition/" rel="nofollow">Thousands sign petition urging Girlguiding UK to reverse trans ban</a><br />
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<a href="https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/12/03/womens-institute-bans-trans-women/" rel="nofollow">Women's Institute bans trans women</a><br />
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There are ways this could be fought in court, but the problem is that due to fears of legal costs and well-funded lawfare people are 'obeying in advance' and caving, not fighting.<br />
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Both institutions have made clear they are doing this under protest - they dont want to - and are doing some things to mitigate it ( eg. not applying it to adult volunteers, having informal  'sisterhood groups')<br />
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Personally I can't help feeling that an organisation which, when fascists come for their members, sells them out and excludes them has failed morally.<br />
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I really fear where this is going. That we are living in a society where fascist level scapegoating of minorities is being reinforced by law and government and it won't be long before we have 'yellow star' type scenarios. Scapegoating  and segregating are already ramping up and there is a good chance of a further ratchet to fascism at the next election -  with people  of colour, Muslims, trans people and disabled people being the main targets. The modern day fascists are deeply antisemitic too but disguise it with support for the Israeli far right government.<br />
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So what on earth do we do? And how should members of organisations which cave resist? And what plans should inclusive organisations and churches  make for when the well-funded persecution groups come for their trans members? Because they will - they have bottomless legal funds and are picking off inclusive organisations one after another with court cases and threats of court cases.<br />
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Once again, as a cis woman this is absolutely  not in my name. I despise and utterly reject these anti-trans views and the sickening pose by those who put them forward that they are in any way protecting women. These people attack women's organisations and are never to be seen when vital women's rights and welfare issues are at stake. I think it's important that cis women who reject these views and the feminist cosplay of their proponents speak up agsinst them whenever we can<br />
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        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Puzzler</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Ann Smyth, wife/ widow of the serial abuser John Smyth said to her adult children ( Channel 4, 9pm, 11 December ) that ( and I paraphrase)  her understanding of her role as a Christian wife was to support her husband.<br />
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        <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 12:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>System</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[This discussion was created from comments split from: <a rel="nofollow" href="/discussion/6594/eunuchs-ancient-and-modern/">Eunuchs ancient and modern</a>.]]>
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        <title>The end of funerals as we know them? Direct cremations</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Merry Vole</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Those of you who follow the Prayers of the Faithful thread will know that my sister died last week.<br />
Her death was expected and so I had already been thinking of her funeral and hoping to contribute -maybe a eulogy, a reading etc. And some of my family when I messaged them that she had died said 'Please let us know about the funeral arrangements'<br />
But I had to tell them that there isn't actually going to be a funeral as such...<br />
Her husband, not liking funerals, and particularly cremations (which I understand had been her preference), arranged for a 'direct cremation', also known as an unattended cremation.<br />
Her body was collected within a few hours of her passing and taken in a black van marked 'private ambulance' to a depot in Andover to await the necessary paperwork from a doctor, and then in due course her ashes can be returned.<br />
Her husband and children may arrange a 'scattering of ashes' ceremony some time in the future, but nothing definite. And even that may be private with no family invited.<br />
And of course I completely respect their decision about this and won't be querying it in any way.<br />
But I do feel something that could be good for them and the wider family won't be happening.<br />
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        <link>http://forums.shipoffools.com/index.php?p=/discussion/6577/relationship-with-god</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Limentinus</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Is belief in a distant, watchmaker God still viable in an Anglican sense, or must faith now centre on a personal Jesus who knows every thought I have and loves me as a man in real time? Do we lose anything when God is presented as a personal God.]]>
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        <dc:creator>Burgess</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Never started something before on here. Hope its ok.<br />
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Be nice if when you say &quot;no I don't drink&quot; people leave you alone on it. Like &quot;I'm sober&quot; should be like &quot;I'm diabetic&quot; and leave me alone because I can't drink that. Been wanting to say I'm diabetic instead of I don't drink is why I did that example. I am no diabetic and lying which is something I stopped doing after getting sober. Not doing that again either. My problem is I want to say &quot;Leave me the f alone&quot; and I get mad when they go at me about no partying and drinking. Working on that by not talking which is the counsellor told me to do that when I went to treatment and it works some times. What does any other people think works]]>
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        <title>Reach Ministries</title>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 11:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>RockyRoger</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[Hi guys,<br />
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these folk  are having meetings in our area:<br />
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<a href="https://reachministries.uk/about/" rel="nofollow">https://reachministries.uk/about/</a><br />
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I had a quick look at where they are coming from:<br />
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(<i>Warning for link to explicitly sexist statement, page also contains link to their anti- LGBT statement - L, hosting </i>)<br />

<div><a href="https://fiec.org.uk/who-we-are/beliefs/women-in-ministry" rel="nofollow">https://fiec.org.uk/who-we-are/beliefs/women-in-ministry</a><br />
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Hmm .... should we be (bog standard COE with lots  of Holy Communion and lady clergy be worried?<br />
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Does anyone on SOF know anyting about these guys?  Or had dealings with them.<br />
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How should I pray for them?<br />
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        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2025 09:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Epiphanies</category>
        <dc:creator>System</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[This discussion was created from comments split from: <a rel="nofollow" href="/discussion/6226/trump-officially-fucks-trans-kids-over/">Trump officially Fucks Trans Kids Over</a>.]]>
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