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Ship of Fools: St Mark's, Gabalfa, Cardiff, Wales

The Mystery WorshipperThe Mystery Worshipper Shipmate
edited April 2024 in The Mystery Worshipper
imageShip of Fools: St Mark's, Gabalfa, Cardiff, Wales

Too traditional to qualify as evangelical

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  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    I’m wondering why this report from 2009 popped up in this thread. (And as is usually the case when old reports appear, the picture here is of a different church.)

  • SojournerSojourner Shipmate
    I did wonder meself: the MWer could have been a Sydney Anglican ( as opposed to an Anglican who lives in Sydney) judging by ( presumably his) remarks re churchmanship & the gender of the preacher ( happy to report that this has been toned down a bit since the retirement of the Jensens ( Archbishop of Sydney and younger bro Dean of St Andrew’s Cathedral) a while back.
  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    My first thought was, 'Hey, that's not Cardiff ...'
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited April 2024
    I suspect that old Reports are re-published partly to maintain some interest, given that new Reports are not all that frequent these days!

    That said, it's sometimes interesting (if you've nothing else better to do!) to check up on the relevant church, to see if they're still going...an exercise which may require some Googling, as many old websites have Ceased To Be.

    There have been one or two old Reports recently on churches which have apparently been moribund, or about to close, but which have received new leases of life.

    Apropos St Mark's, the use of the spelling *draft* to describe an unwelcome blast of cold air makes me wonder if, indeed, the MWer was not English (or Welsh!).
  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    As a former evangelical I can understand the distaste for robes and ceremony, but find it hard - in retrospect - to understand how these things were seen as a barrier or hindrance in connecting with Christ.

    It'd be like saying 'the pastor wore jeans' or 'pink pumps' and this hindered my connecting with Christ.

    I can understand objections to vestments on theological grounds but not how their usage in and of itself somehow diminishes our ability to 'connect with Christ' in a church service.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I’m wondering why this report from 2009 popped up in this thread. (And as is usually the case when old reports appear, the picture here is of a different church.)
    Backstage we are wondering the same :lol: and hoping that @pease can throw some light on it.
  • peasepease Tech Admin
    Who knows why it appeared in the first place - maybe someone clicked on the comment button but the comment data was lost. At least the image is fixable.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Nenya wrote: »
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    I’m wondering why this report from 2009 popped up in this thread. (And as is usually the case when old reports appear, the picture here is of a different church.)
    Backstage we are wondering the same :lol: and hoping that @pease can throw some light on it.
    pease wrote: »
    Who knows why it appeared in the first place
    The Lord moves in mysterious ways.

  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth Shipmate
    edited April 2024
    Bishops Finger wrote: »
    I suspect that old Reports are re-published partly to maintain some interest, given that new Reports are not all that frequent these days!

    It's not a question of re-publishing. Reports from 2005 on were ported over from the old Ship and are discoverable via search. Someone must have searched for it, found it, and went to file a comment but the comment never "took." I understand that if someone who is not registered files a comment, it appears to "take" but in reality doesn't.

    It is true that when comments are filed on reports ported over from the old Ship, the photo is always wrong. This software bug has been fixed several times, but every time the software is updated the bug reasserts itself. When I was MW editor, I used to fix the photo in comments on old reports as necessary, but I am no longer MW editor and apparently comments on old reports are not being monitored as they were previously.

    I was pleased to see that there have been quite a bit of new reports filed recently. I hope the trend continues.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Amanda B Reckondwyth wrote: »
    I was pleased to see that there have been quite a bit of new reports filed recently. I hope the trend continues.
    Indeed!
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    Amanda B Reckondwyth wrote: »
    Bishops Finger wrote: »
    I suspect that old Reports are re-published partly to maintain some interest, given that new Reports are not all that frequent these days!

    It's not a question of re-publishing. Reports from 2005 on were ported over from the old Ship and are discoverable via search. Someone must have searched for it, found it, and went to file a comment but the comment never "took." I understand that if someone who is not registered files a comment, it appears to "take" but in reality doesn't.

    It is true that when comments are filed on reports ported over from the old Ship, the photo is always wrong. This software bug has been fixed several times, but every time the software is updated the bug reasserts itself. When I was MW editor, I used to fix the photo in comments on old reports as necessary, but I am no longer MW editor and apparently comments on old reports are not being monitored as they were previously.

    I was pleased to see that there have been quite a bit of new reports filed recently. I hope the trend continues.

    Thank you, Miss Amanda - ISWYM.
    :wink:
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Amanda B Reckondwyth wrote: »

    I was pleased to see that there have been quite a bit of new reports filed recently. I hope the trend continues.

    It was reading the MW reports that brought me to the Ship way back. I enjoyed them then and still do. Pleased to see the report on Newcastle Cathedral. I did some work from time to time at Newcastle and would call in there before tackling the drive home. A former Dean there had a bit of a link to St Sanity.
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