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  • Joke?!
  • Well, no. Not really a joke, but a prayer many may well be praying even now:

    May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. (New International Version)
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Well, no. Not really a joke, but a prayer many may well be praying even now:

    May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. (New International Version)

    It qualifies as a joke, because it's got the set-up, where you trick the reader into expecting a positive thing(a prayer for Donald Trump's well-being), and then switch it to something negative(a prayer for Trump's demise) for the punch-line.

    A similarly structured style of joke I've seen...

    Did you know that Ted Kennedy fought for infrastructure legislation preserving America's bridges? Google "Ted Kennedy bridge".
  • I should have checked more of the the context. Verse 6: Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Well, no. Not really a joke, but a prayer many may well be praying even now:

    May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership. (New International Version)

    It qualifies as a joke, because it's got the set-up, where you trick the reader into expecting a positive thing(a prayer for Donald Trump's well-being), and then switch it to something negative(a prayer for Trump's demise) for the punch-line.

    A similarly structured style of joke I've seen...

    Did you know that Ted Kennedy fought for infrastructure legislation preserving America's bridges? Google "Ted Kennedy bridge".

    And of course the fun that was had when Donald Trump was convicted of exactly 34 felonies.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Results/Reviews of the Trump military parade vs the No Kings Protests are slowly coming in. First of all, it appears the expected crowd at the military parade was much less than what was expected. The official expectation was there would be around 200,000 at the parade. From the shots of the parade I saw it certainly did not look like 200,000, a mere fraction of that. Then the marching was atrocious the rank and file were not properly aligned and the spacing seemed in correct. I did not see one formation that was in step either. It just looked like the soldiers did not want to be there.

    Contrast that to the No Kings protest. Total attendance exceeded eight million people. There was no report of violence at the protests and very little counter protest.

    In other news, it appears Trump is backing off from the forced detainment of migrant farm workers and motel attendants. Reality is beginning to set in, it appears.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Leopards ate the wrong faces, according to the rich owners of places that employed the face-eaten.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Results/Reviews of the Trump military parade vs the No Kings Protests are slowly coming in. First of all, it appears the expected crowd at the military parade was much less than what was expected. The official expectation was there would be around 200,000 at the parade. From the shots of the parade I saw it certainly did not look like 200,000, a mere fraction of that. Then the marching was atrocious the rank and file were not properly aligned and the spacing seemed in correct. I did not see one formation that was in step either. It just looked like the soldiers did not want to be there.

    Contrast that to the No Kings protest. Total attendance exceeded eight million people. There was no report of violence at the protests and very little counter protest.

    In other news, it appears Trump is backing off from the forced detainment of migrant farm workers and motel attendants. Reality is beginning to set in, it appears.

    Some acerbic commentary in the comments of the official YouTube page for Fortunate Son.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    stetson wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Results/Reviews of the Trump military parade vs the No Kings Protests are slowly coming in. First of all, it appears the expected crowd at the military parade was much less than what was expected. The official expectation was there would be around 200,000 at the parade. From the shots of the parade I saw it certainly did not look like 200,000, a mere fraction of that. Then the marching was atrocious the rank and file were not properly aligned and the spacing seemed in correct. I did not see one formation that was in step either. It just looked like the soldiers did not want to be there.

    Contrast that to the No Kings protest. Total attendance exceeded eight million people. There was no report of violence at the protests and very little counter protest.

    Some acerbic commentary in the comments of the official YouTube page for Fortunate Son.

    I saw that clip and my reaction was pretty much exactly the same as this guy on Bluesky.
    no… no, they can’t possibly be… oh my god, they wouldn’t… they can’t be… YES, THEY ARE PLAYING FORTUNATE SON

    Lyrics here, for those who are unfamiliar. Video at the previous link for those who want to see for themselves. It doesn't take a lot for somewhat disgruntled troops to sabotage a parade. Sometimes a snarky playlist and some out-of-step marching is all it takes.
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    In other news, it appears Trump is backing off from the forced detainment of migrant farm workers and motel attendants. Reality is beginning to set in, it appears.

    Trump made one comment on his bespoke social media platform. It has not been followed with any noticeable change in actions, so saying that "Trump is backing off" assumes facts not yet in evidence. This may come as something of a surprise, but Donald Trump is not always scrupulously honest.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    ICE and DHS officials confirm that this is the new policy as of Thursday.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/us/politics/trump-ice-raids-farms-hotels.html

    But people were still being rounded up at farms in Ventura County, California on Friday.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/trump-immigration-raids-workers.html

    Go ahead, fuck with agriculture - it's just our food supply. No big deal.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 15
    Did Toddler Trumpkin (the BIGLIEST Man-Baby of them all) actually notice that his Triumphal Parade (presumably with the BIGLIEST crowds EVER) had been subtly sabotaged?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Lyrics here, for those who are unfamiliar. Video at the previous link for those who want to see for themselves. It doesn't take a lot for somewhat disgruntled troops to sabotage a parade. Sometimes a snarky playlist and some out-of-step marching is all it takes.

    Fortunate Son has been played at Trump rallies in the past, with no lethal mockery ensuing. But this might be a little different, since a lot more people are paying attention to this rally than to an average campaign stop.

    Not that I think the playing of one inappropriate song will neccessarily be a Dukakis-in-the-tank moment for Trump, though these things are hard to quantify.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    Did Toddler Trumpkin (the BIGLIEST Man-Baby of them all) actually notice that his Triumphal Parade (presumably with the BIGLIEST crowds EVER) had been subtly sabotaged?

    My guess is he doesn't really have a clear idea of what a proper military parade is supposed to look like, and probably just gets his rocks off thinking about all these soldiers parading down the street in his honour.

    I'm also somewhat skeptical that ANYONE along the chain of command would deliberately sabotage a parade ordered by the POTUS. I could entertain the idea that their heart just phoning it in because they weren't overly excited about the assignment.
  • He could have saved a lot of money and had far more exposure just by taking part in World Naked Bike Ride Day: https://festivalstoronto.com/events/world-naked-bike-ride/. Those good people cheered up the anti-trump "No Tyrants" demonstration considerably in Toronto yesterday.
  • Alan Cresswell Alan Cresswell Admin, 8th Day Host
    The Emperor With No Clothes would fit in perfectly at a naked bike ride.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited June 15
    delete, mistaken posting.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Trump got the idea of a big military parade from the French. We roll tanks down the Champs Elysees every year on Bastille day. Macron invited him once and he was totally jealous.
  • Trump got the idea of a big military parade from the French. We roll tanks down the Champs Elysees every year on Bastille day. Macron invited him once and he was totally jealous.

    Is the annual Bastille Day parade generally popular in France?

    I suppose the difference here is that it commemorates an important historical event, whereas the God-Emperor just wanted to look like a God-Emperor who is a Great Leader, and to show off on His Birthday.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Trump got the idea of a big military parade from the French. We roll tanks down the Champs Elysees every year on Bastille day. Macron invited him once and he was totally jealous.

    Is the annual Bastille Day parade generally popular in France?

    I suppose the difference here is that it commemorates an important historical event, whereas the God-Emperor just wanted to look like a God-Emperor who is a Great Leader, and to show off on His Birthday.
    Well, aside from being Trump’s birthday, yesterday was also the 250th anniversary of the establishment of the Continental Army, the forerunner of the United States Army. The U.S. Army generally considers June 14 its “birthday.” The Army’s 250th anniversary was the ostensible primary reason for yesterday’s military parade.


  • I stand corrected.
  • I don't think trump gave a damn about any anniversary but his own.
  • I don't think trump gave a damn about any anniversary but his own.

    Well, quite. That was my point, although as usual I didn't express it very clearly.

  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    I don't think trump gave a damn about any anniversary but his own.
    I did intentionally use the word ostensible.


  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Well, aside from being Trump’s birthday, yesterday was also the 250th anniversary of the establishment of the Continental Army, the forerunner of the United States Army. The U.S. Army generally considers June 14 its “birthday.” The Army’s 250th anniversary was the ostensible primary reason for yesterday’s military parade.

    The original plan was to have various Army displays and presentations on the National Mall. The parade was thrown together at Trump's direction with about two months to plan it out. The half-assery that is the hallmark of all Trump projects was pretty clearly on display.
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Crœsos wrote: »
    The half-assery that is the hallmark of all Trump projects was pretty clearly on display.
    As it pretty much always is.


  • HelenEvaHelenEva Shipmate
    Thank you to Ruth for the book recommendation of Illiberal America by Steven Hahn. I was going to post that on the tangent thread about popular academic books but I can't find it so hope you don't mind it here.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    edited June 16
    stetson wrote: »
    I'm also somewhat skeptical that ANYONE along the chain of command would deliberately sabotage a parade ordered by the POTUS. I could entertain the idea that their heart just phoning it in because they weren't overly excited about the assignment.

    I don't know about that. Malicious compliance has a long and storied history in most militaries. After all, any sufficiently advanced malicious compliance is indistinguishable from loyal incompetence.
  • An interesting thought @Crœsos. I'm inclined to give the military the benefit of the doubt here, but what do I know?

    I'm only a bemused Brit, looking on from the other side of the Pond, but the idea of disgruntled people indulging in passive-aggressive behaviour against the God-Emperor is not unappealing.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited June 16
    @Crœsos

    I don't know about that. Malicious compliance has a long and storied history in most militaries. After all, any sufficiently advanced malicious compliance is indistinguishable from loyal incompetence.

    Yeah, I've been hearing the troops' presentation described as malicious compliance, but I'm not sure it really fits the definition. As per the article...

    ...the behaviour of strictly following the orders of a superior despite knowing that compliance with the orders will have a negative or unintended result.

    So, unless Trump ordered the soldiers to march out-of-lockstep, that was something they added to the performance themselves.
  • Bringing up malicious compliance tells me this is a good time to reread The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek. A few Švejks in the US army would do it no end of good and drive trump mad.
  • Good idea. I read The Good Soldier Švejk at skool, which is a long time ago, but I think it would indeed bear re-reading.
  • AnselminaAnselmina Shipmate
    I was kind of bemused by the military parade. It looked like a casual amble along the street in everyday fatigues, rather than a celebratory spectacle to celebrate 250 years of the US military contribution to the life of the nation. One MAGA response said that when your army is powerful enough to 'stomp' all over any other nation, no-one has to dress up like nutcrackers and do choreographed routines; which I presumed was a reference to the marching band stuff you see at football games, where everything is fabulously tight, well-drilled, colourful etc. I had assumed that instructions from the Oval Office would have made it plain that all the stops had to be pulled out on such an important occasion.
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited June 16
    Anselmina wrote: »
    I was kind of bemused by the military parade. It looked like a casual amble along the street in everyday fatigues, rather than a celebratory spectacle to celebrate 250 years of the US military contribution to the life of the nation. One MAGA response said that when your army is powerful enough to 'stomp' all over any other nation, no-one has to dress up like nutcrackers and do choreographed routines; which I presumed was a reference to the marching band stuff you see at football games, where everything is fabulously tight, well-drilled, colourful etc.

    I'm pretty sure that MAGA apologia was concocted after the fact in response to all the mockery, because taken to its logical conclusion, there shoulda been no reason to hold the parade in the first place.

    That said, I have thought that a lot of the faux-militarism that imbues MAGA seems like the metropolitan of a civilian-run naval power desperately trying to make itself look Prussian, based on a pop-culture derived idea of what the military is like.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    I see Trump and Rubio left the G7 early, ostensibly to deal with the Iranian Israeli crisis. But could there be more? Like T was not getting his way at the conference.
  • Robertus LRobertus L Shipmate

    Trump got the idea of a big military parade from the French. We roll tanks down the Champs Elysees every year on Bastille day. Macron invited him once and he was totally jealous.

    My French history is a bit rusty, but didn't the storming of the Bastille succeed because the soldiers refused to fire on civilians, and instead shot their commanders? Not exactly malicious compliance, but certainly a precedent of some sort.
  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    I see Trump and Rubio left the G7 early, ostensibly to deal with the Iranian Israeli crisis. But could there be more? Like T was not getting his way at the conference.

    I just think he is uncomfortable in discussions with intelligent people where ranting is off limits.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....
    Expect a Truth (or whatever they call them over there) saying he's the biggermerrest wellemerest president ever, just before he keels over.

  • The impression I get from news articles over here in the UK is that Trump is totally out of his depth, as regards diplomacy and the Israel-Iran war, and (as @Alan29 suggests) can't interact very well with intelligent people.
  • mousethiefmousethief Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    I see Trump and Rubio left the G7 early, ostensibly to deal with the Iranian Israeli crisis. But could there be more? Like T was not getting his way at the conference.

    As if AF1 isn't a complete command center?
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....

    Be careful what you wish for. Pence is just as bad, if not worse.
  • RockyRogerRockyRoger Shipmate
    Jane R wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....

    Be careful what you wish for. Pence is just as bad, if not worse.

    As I said, to our prayers!

    Blessings!
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Jane R wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....

    Be careful what you wish for. Pence is just as bad, if not worse.

    You mean Vance?
  • Vance's brain is at least functional, however repugnant his politics may be. He can engage in debate, whereas arguing with trump is like wrestling with a jellyfish.
  • What a total waste of energy, time, and oxygen the Orange God-Emperor is. Whatever we may think of the politics of other Western leaders, spare some pity for them when they have to deal with the idiot.
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Jane R wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....

    Be careful what you wish for. Pence is just as bad, if not worse.

    You mean Vance?

    Yes, I did. My bad. It's becoming increasingly difficult (from this side of the Atlantic) to tell Trump's lackeys apart, but I think in this case my brain just went into a time warp.
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Jane R wrote: »
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Jane R wrote: »
    RockyRoger wrote: »
    I saw a photo on the BBC website of him leaving the G7. He didn't look well at all. To our prayers ....

    Be careful what you wish for. Pence is just as bad, if not worse.

    You mean Vance?

    Yes, I did. My bad. It's becoming increasingly difficult (from this side of the Atlantic) to tell Trump's lackeys apart, but I think in this case my brain just went into a time warp.

    Pence is the one with minor vestiges of respect for the rule of law.

    The one thing going for Vance is that there isn't an ice cube in hell's chance he can hold onto all of Trump's support or gain anyone Trump already has. MAGA won't survive Trump.
  • Please God.

    I've made a number of predictions about That Person based on common sense and seen them all go up in flames. I'm afraid to predict anymore.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    edited 12:50AM
    Well, that did not last long. Homeland Security is rounding up undocumented people working in the agricultural fields again.

    And, have you noticed how Trump is now claiming "We have control of the skies over Tehran?"
  • Jane RJane R Shipmate
    'We'? Is he claiming to be commander-in-chief of the IDF now?
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