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And now there is Iran

Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
edited January 14 in Purgatory
The Iranian people are in open revolt due to economic hardships and lack of water. The regime has killed hundreds. Trump threatens the regime with military actions or other sanctions. The son of the former Shah is encouraging the Iranians to seek regime change. America is now telling unnecessary personnel to evacuate nearby bases. Iran says it can hit targets in the US.

Saw a Facebook Meme today. Something to the effect:

Book people take a break and look up. See the mess we are in. Return to your books.

What are your bets?

Comments

  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Posted this a few days ago when it looked like Trump was going to militarily intervene in that protest movement against the regime.

    Then I think he was convinced it would put him between a rock and a hard place. It appears his generals said there would be nothing to gain with that intervention. It would put Americans in harm's way especially at nearby bases, but also even here in the US, since Iran is known to have death squads throughout the world.

    But I have to wonder about how the protestors are taking this. They had hoped there would be an American intervention, but it did not come. Goes to prove never trust an American.

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Trump probably has no idea what happened in 79.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »
    Trump probably has no idea what happened in 79.

    I certainly did. I was called to active duty during that time.
  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    Trump seems to have changed his mind. He may do so again tomorrow and say something different again next week and the week after.

    So I wouldn't want to place any bets.

    Is he stalling for time. Planning a surprise attack? Who knows? Does he?
  • BullfrogBullfrog Shipmate
    edited January 17
    Are they still trying to relocate Tehran because of drought? I thought I read that a while ago.

    Seems to be a lot going on.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Bullfrog wrote: »
    Are they still trying to relocate Tehran because of drought? I thought I read that a while ago.

    Seems to be a lot going on.

    I think they will try to relocate the government not the whole city. But even that costs money, which they do not have.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Just finished watching Washington Weekon PBS, Turns out we did not have an American carrier in the Middle East. Trump had moved the Gerald Ford to the Caribbean. The nearest other carrier, the Abraham Lincoln was in the SW Pacific. No Arab state was willing to allow Trump to use American assets in their country. In other words, we did not have any resources available. It will take at least two weeks before we can get a carrier on location.

    There might be more to come first of February.

  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Yesterday, I was doing a bit of channel surfing when I came across a comment from the 700 club to the effect they could not understand why the liberal Democrats are so up in arms about the deaths of Good and Pretti here in the US, but silent about the thousands who have been killed by the Iranian regime. Their conclusion, the Democrats have lost the ability to ever lead the United States ever again. What would be your response?
  • Gamma GamalielGamma Gamaliel Shipmate
    Have the Democrats been silent? I'm sure there will have been comments about the Iranian violence somewhere from that quarter.

    I'm not American but I think my response would be that two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that the Iranian regime has killed thousands of its people doesn't make it right for ICE to kill 30 or so people in the US, as I believe they have done cumulatively.

    If any one isn't fit to form a US administration it's the Republicans on present form.

    Whether it's two deaths or 22 deaths or 22,000 deaths, it's still death.
  • ChastMastrChastMastr Shipmate
    Part of me is inclined to say “the 700 club? The Pat Robertson people? An authority on anything? That even deserves a response?“ But honestly, I’m thinking that a simple response to this would be that nobody out there on either the Democratic or the Republican side thinks that the government of Iran is basically good, or expects it to treat its citizens well in the first place. And that when we’re criticizing the horrible things our own government is doing, especially when those things violate the principles it is supposed to follow in our Constitution, that’s trying to clean up our own house.
  • DafydDafyd Hell Host
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    Yesterday, I was doing a bit of channel surfing when I came across a comment from the 700 club to the effect they could not understand why the liberal Democrats are so up in arms about the deaths of Good and Pretti here in the US, but silent about the thousands who have been killed by the Iranian regime. Their conclusion, the Democrats have lost the ability to ever lead the United States ever again. What would be your response?
    Assuming that's even a good faith question - I suspect the 700 Club would quite happily say that US politicians should treat US citizens as more important than foreigners in other circumstances:

    Deaths of people in the US is something that the Democrats and US voters in general can do something about through peaceful constitutional means. Deaths of Iranian citizens considerably less so.
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