Over here. a 'saloon' has the concept of a western bar where hard liquor would be served rooms could be rented for an hour with accompanying ladies, if you know what I mean.
A traditional south of England pub was often divided into a public bar (catering to the working man: flooring and furnishings that stand up to men in boots and work clothes, cheap beer), and a saloon bar (nicer furnishings, more expensive drinks, catering to the middle classes). There were similar distinctions in Northern pubs, but the word "saloon" is mostly a Southern use.
In the Middle Ages, if you had a case in the church court, you briefed a proctor. A Proctor of the Clergy was a guy who represented the clergy in Parliament. In 1397, Richard II came close to stringing one up - a chap called Thomas Haxey, who objected to what he considered to be an excessive number of 'bishops and ladies' at court. Richard had such criticisms of his household and the court declared high treason. Haxey, however, survived - though I think he was eating porridge for a time.
This is not a new word for me - Antipodes - but I have never thought of its meaning before.
I was talking to some Australians the other day who told me there was a special Latin word for Australia meaning 'upside down'. I said that Australia was already a Latin word and then one of them pronounced the word Antipodes (with a different emphasis on the syllables to that which I am used to hear. It is indeed a Greek word rather than Latin,but I had never thought before of its origins 'feet opposite(to where one might expect them to be) so the guy was not too far out in saying 'upside down'
Over here. a 'saloon' has the concept of a western bar where hard liquor would be served rooms could be rented for an hour with accompanying ladies, if you know what I mean.
A traditional south of England pub was often divided into a public bar (catering to the working man: flooring and furnishings that stand up to men in boots and work clothes, cheap beer), and a saloon bar (nicer furnishings, more expensive drinks, catering to the middle classes). There were similar distinctions in Northern pubs, but the word "saloon" is mostly a Southern use.
As I understand it, the earlier forms of macaroni in Italian referred to pasta, usually tubular, that could be stuffed. Macaroon and macaron both came into English from Italian through French, and carried the meaning of food stuffed or filled. Macaronic was coined in Italian later (the 1600s), drawing on the idea of macaroni being a mixture of pasta and other foods.
There once was a rough bar in Aberdeen on Little Belmont Street called Ma Cameron's, where you could go to get filled with beer... Surely no relation?
Hang on a minute - I had a few drinks in Ma Cameron's when I was a student in Aberdeen! 😃
Ma Cameron's still flourishes. I've never regarded it as "rough" in the way that, for example, the Grill was rough. The original Ma Cameron (Margaret "May" Cameron, nee Dallas) became landlady when she married the owner in 1855, and she continued to run the pub after she was widowed. She died in 1912.
There once was a rough bar in Aberdeen on Little Belmont Street called Ma Cameron's, where you could go to get filled with beer... Surely no relation?
Hang on a minute - I had a few drinks in Ma Cameron's when I was a student in Aberdeen! 😃
Ma Cameron's still flourishes. I've never regarded it as "rough" in the way that, for example, the Grill was rough. The original Ma Cameron (Margaret "May" Cameron, nee Dallas) became landlady when she married the owner in 1855, and she continued to run the pub after she was widowed. She died in 1912.
My memory can be unreliable, and there may possibly be additions and improvements to it since I first encountered fermented fluids in the 1960s. It would be interesting to discuss Aberdeen bars, but that's possibly a tangent too far for a Heavenly discussion.
Pub nomenclature is quite confusing. In the Manchester area, at least, the public bar was always called the vault. I used to confuse Southerners by claiming to have drunk beer in the vault of the Bank of England. (A Manchester pub that is now gone.)
I was equally confused by the bars marked 'Private' in southern pubs. Was one allowed in or not? I think it was roughly what we called 'the Snug'. A small room at one time intended for the use (principally) of ladies, especially elderly ones. However, I am still not sure, to be quite honest.
We also used to have rooms marked 'Reading Room' or 'Commercial Room'. Not seen one of those in a pub for ages.
According to Auntie Google it is in fact a company in China that makes them. I'd seen the name years ago but had some vague idea it was to do with measuring sine waves. Measuring sins is more interesting, though there would have to be some sort of built-in overload protection for some of us.
Poustinia: a small or sparsley furnished room one goes to pray and meditate.
The reflection (reading for the day) for the day suggested we can cary our internalised poustinia with us wherever we go. Nice
Russian, derived from their word for desert.
On a tangent, I like the idea of a 'sinometer' and wish I had one. It would need large batteries though. Oh, a 'bullshitometer' and 'crapometer' as well to test books, films etc. It would save me time sitting through films like ... er...' Paris' or 'Top Gun II'. Mrs RR does her best, but ......
Perhaps not strictly a new word or even a legitimate word, but I found myself chuckling over a New Yorker writer's term for the 2020s: the Assholocene. Time was when you couldn't say rude words like that in the New Yorker.
Perhaps not strictly a new word or even a legitimate word, but I found myself chuckling over a New Yorker writer's term for the 2020s: the Assholocene. Time was when you couldn't say rude words like that in the New Yorker.
If a certain Asshole gets back in 2024, will that be the start of the 'Trumpolene'?
In the Middle Ages, if you had a case in the church court, you briefed a proctor. A Proctor of the Clergy was a guy who represented the clergy in Parliament.
I was first admitted as a solicitor, proctor and attorney. Attorney at law, solicitor in equity and proctor in family law, probate and admiralty. After a couple of years, I was removed from that roll "at my request" (ie, not as a disciplinary move) and admitted to the Bar. I can't remember just when the old admission as A,S and P, and separate admission to the Bar went, and people were admitted simply as lawyers, but it was long overdue.
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A traditional south of England pub was often divided into a public bar (catering to the working man: flooring and furnishings that stand up to men in boots and work clothes, cheap beer), and a saloon bar (nicer furnishings, more expensive drinks, catering to the middle classes). There were similar distinctions in Northern pubs, but the word "saloon" is mostly a Southern use.
I was talking to some Australians the other day who told me there was a special Latin word for Australia meaning 'upside down'. I said that Australia was already a Latin word and then one of them pronounced the word Antipodes (with a different emphasis on the syllables to that which I am used to hear. It is indeed a Greek word rather than Latin,but I had never thought before of its origins 'feet opposite(to where one might expect them to be) so the guy was not too far out in saying 'upside down'
AKA Lounge.
Hang on a minute - I had a few drinks in Ma Cameron's when I was a student in Aberdeen! 😃
Thank you very much - that is a great etymology!
Ma Cameron's still flourishes. I've never regarded it as "rough" in the way that, for example, the Grill was rough. The original Ma Cameron (Margaret "May" Cameron, nee Dallas) became landlady when she married the owner in 1855, and she continued to run the pub after she was widowed. She died in 1912.
My memory can be unreliable, and there may possibly be additions and improvements to it since I first encountered fermented fluids in the 1960s. It would be interesting to discuss Aberdeen bars, but that's possibly a tangent too far for a Heavenly discussion.
I was equally confused by the bars marked 'Private' in southern pubs. Was one allowed in or not? I think it was roughly what we called 'the Snug'. A small room at one time intended for the use (principally) of ladies, especially elderly ones. However, I am still not sure, to be quite honest.
We also used to have rooms marked 'Reading Room' or 'Commercial Room'. Not seen one of those in a pub for ages.
Despite the intriguing name, it doesn't measure sins! It is something to do with measuring voltage.
Imagine how handy an actual sin-o-meter would be! Much less angsting over moral judgements. Just point the sin-o-meter and get a definitive answer!
The reflection (reading for the day) for the day suggested we can cary our internalised poustinia with us wherever we go. Nice
Russian, derived from their word for desert.
If a certain Asshole gets back in 2024, will that be the start of the 'Trumpolene'?
Thank you @Merry Vole
I was first admitted as a solicitor, proctor and attorney. Attorney at law, solicitor in equity and proctor in family law, probate and admiralty. After a couple of years, I was removed from that roll "at my request" (ie, not as a disciplinary move) and admitted to the Bar. I can't remember just when the old admission as A,S and P, and separate admission to the Bar went, and people were admitted simply as lawyers, but it was long overdue.
I really hate it when I forget a word, and the harder I try to remember it, the more elusive it becomes - there's probably a word for that too.