How about them Yanks (Yes, American Cricket)?

Two wins in the Men's World Cup so far, against Pakistan and India. Two usually very tough teams.

Can we take it all the way?

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  • Dunno, but I'm happy to shout for them, and I'm English. Let's face it, we live a good underdog story.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Slight correction: In the T20 Cricket World Cup, USA beat Canada (by 7 wickets) and Pakistan (in a superover). USA lost to India...but not as badly as one might have thought: USA 110/8 (20.0) versus India's 111/3 (18.2). Honestly, I would not have bet on India taking until the 19th over to defeat USA.

    The USA final first stage match against Ireland was rained out (It was scheduled for South Florida which has been receiving huge amounts of water recently. 8 inches in 3 hours is no joke.)

    But, anyway, it was enough to secure USA a spot in the Super 8, where they get to play against South Africa, West Indies and England. Which is neat. USA & West Indies are co-hosts for the tournament and it is special to have the 2 co-hosts play against each other!
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Admin, 8th Day Host
    Heading for the circus, howzat !

    Doublethink, Admin
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    South Africa (194/4) beat USA (176/6) in the first match of the Super 8. Quinton de Kock (74 runs) and Aidan Markram (46) were the major hurdles. On the USA side, Andries Gous managed 80 runs, but was unable to get much of a partnership going with anybody. (Harmeet Singh had 38 runs, but that was too little too late.)

    Still, from the USA perspective, it was not an embarrassing loss. Nothing at all like (earlier in the tournament) when England disposed of Oman in only 3.1 overs.

    Speaking of which, England takes on West Indies in about 6 hours....
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Just to update this: England defeated West Indies on Wednesday.

    Earlier today, England and South Africa played, with South Africa coming away with a 7-run victory. In a little under 4 hours, USA is scheduled to play West Indies.

    In the other quartet, India beat Afghanistan while Australia beat Bangladesh. Tomorrow's matches will be India-Bangladesh and Australia-Afghanistan.

  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Engand now need to beat the USA to progress.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    West Indies completely dismantled USA yesterday. The WI bowlers got USA all out with only 128 runs. The WI batters then made merry on the American bowlers, chalking up 130 runs in only 10.5 overs.

    This is by far the worse showing USA has made this tournament. They have one more match left and, as noted above, it is against England on Sunday. We'll see if the American squad can make a competitive match of it.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    West Indies completely dismantled USA yesterday. The WI bowlers got USA all out with only 128 runs. The WI batters then made merry on the American bowlers, chalking up 130 runs in only 10.5 overs.

    This is by far the worse showing USA has made this tournament. They have one more match left and, as noted above, it is against England on Sunday. We'll see if the American squad can make a competitive match of it.
    They didn't. They tried hard but lacked the quality in batting and bowling.

  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Fair comment. While USA started the tournament with a flourish, it ended not with a bang, but a whimper.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Fair comment. While USA started the tournament with a flourish, it ended not with a bang, but a whimper.

    When the USA gained independence they missed out on sports like Football and cricket so they had to invent their own sports.

    I can't see cricket being more popular than baseball.
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    On the other hand Afghanistan scored a terrific win over Australia...
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    On the other hand Afghanistan scored a terrific win over Australia...
    Cricket is very popular in India and the surrounding countries and that includes Afghanistan
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Hey, we caught up with football. I think the United States is hosting the World Cup this next yeaar

    For your information, Cricket was a very popular sport in the American colonies. It was said that George Washington encouraged his soldiers to play cricket while encamped at Valley Forge. It was quite popular America up until the 1860s. The problem was, it remained an elite sport and did not develop into a game of professionals. On the other hand, baseball was a common man's sport that gained popularity from the masses which did develop into professional leagues.
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    Telford wrote: »
    On the other hand Afghanistan scored a terrific win over Australia...
    Cricket is very popular in India and the surrounding countries and that includes Afghanistan

    It does now! But until the 1990s the cricket scene in Afghanistan barely existed and as recently as 2002 the national team was comparable in strength to a second-division Pakistan regional side. It's an inspirational cricket story!

    @Gramps49 I totally agree and I believe the first recorded international match was between the USA and Canada. Good to see cricket on the rise again!
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Afghanistan win again and the mighty Aussies are out "!!!
  • The RogueThe Rogue Shipmate
    Oh dear. What a pity. never mind.
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    I would like to know what the pre-tournament odds were for Afghanistan making the semi-finals!

    South Africa v. Afghanistan tomorrow, and then India v. England on Thursday.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Afghanistan blown away for 56 on a terrible pitch and they lose by 9 wickets
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Yes, that match ended fast.

    And rain in Guyana this morning for the India-England match. That is Less Than Optimal.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Depending on which bit of England they come from, wouldn't they be used to playing in the rain? :mrgreen:
  • Wesley JWesley J Circus Host
    :mrgreen:

  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    After restricting India to a good score which was getable, England are all out well short of the target.

    I hope it's a good pitch and good weather for the final
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    Depending on which bit of England they come from, wouldn't they be used to playing in the rain? :mrgreen:

    Apparently not. India 171/7; England 103.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I'm afraid that means nothing to me; I know almost as little about cricket as I do about baseball. :blush:
  • I'l decipher.

    England were thrashed. Viagra couldn't have rescued a performance that limp.
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I'm afraid that means nothing to me; I know almost as little about cricket as I do about baseball. :blush:
    Baseball, although very popular in North America, is a very similar to rounders. Cricket is far more complicated.

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Although I would concur that baseball is very similar to rounders, I would dispute the argument that cricket is "far more complicated" than baseball.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    This thread has shown me how little I know about the game.
  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    Did you get a hot shot playing silly mid-off? ;^)
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Caissa wrote: »
    Although I would concur that baseball is very similar to rounders, I would dispute the argument that cricket is "far more complicated" than baseball.

    There are 42 laws of cricket. In addition all competitions have their own regulations
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    As somebody who loves baseball and has grown very fond of cricket, I'd say that, in their basic gameplay, both are pretty simple. But both become more complicated when you have to dig down to the details. I'm newer to cricket, so, yeah, it seems a lot more complicated to me on the details. But if I hadn't grown up with baseball, rules like the Infield Fly Rule or Balks would probably have struck me as complicated.

    I do find it funny that the two sports have taken diametrically opposed approaches to the ball. In cricket, there are only certain limited scheduled times when a new ball can be introduced into the match. In baseball, we get a new ball every time the old ball touches the ground! Seriously. Every time. It didn't use to be that way, but now if it touches the dirt, the ball gets thrown out and a new one introduced.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    Hedgehog--you must be talking about professional baseball. I think it is in the pro-ball contract, not in the regulations--that I know of. I imagine it has to do with the balance of the ball. And I also think those used balls are given to the kids at the game or handed down to little league teams. If in good condition, they may also be used in batting practice for the home team. Now, if the ball is from a major event, such as the (ahem) World Series, they are authenticated and sold for memorabilia.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    Gentle Hostly Oink

    Gentlemen (which I think you all are), this thread is about Cricket, and in particular the performance of an American team in that game in relation to teams of other nationalities. Please don't make it a "cricket versus baseball" argument; they are two separate games, and pitting one against the other isn't what the Circus is about.

    Thank you.

    Piglet, Circus host

  • CaissaCaissa Shipmate
    I think this is all being done in a jocular manner ( at least that's the intent of my posts). Given that the US has crashed out of the T20, there is not much to be said for it.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    they are two separate games, and pitting one against the other isn't what the Circus is about.

    Although pitting a cricket team against a baseball team might fit in. Particularly if each team was playing their own sport. That might make umpiring a bit surreal.
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Purgatory Host, Circus Host
    Hostly beret on

    If anyone has any further comments about @Piglet's Hostly direction above, please take it to the Styx.

    Hostly beret off

    la vie en rouge, Circus host
  • HedgehogHedgehog Shipmate
    Just to add a coda to the thread: India beat South Africa in a thrilling final.

    India batted first and posted 176 runs. South Africa ran a spirited chase, entering the final over with 161 runs (and 6 wickets). Now 15 runs in an over (16 to win) is not unachievable. But India got a wicket on the first ball. SA got a 4 on the second ball and a bye on the third. The 3rd ball resulted in a leg bye for one, leaving SA needing 10 off of 2 balls. They get another run off a wide, needing 9 off of 2 balls. But the fifth ball results in a wicket. And the final ball yields only one run, so SA finishes with 169.
  • TurquoiseTasticTurquoiseTastic Kerygmania Host
    Good to have a closely-contested final! The two semi-finals were somewhat one-sided. India clearly best in the world at the moment. South Africa the form team who played very well throughout but just didn't have quite enough to overcome Rohit Sharma, Bumrah, Kohli & co.
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