Phrases that date you

I was recently in hospital and got talking to another patient about phrases that the “younger generation “ wouldn’t understand. The first one was that another person sounded “like a gramophone record with the needle stuck “
In this day of digital y, would any young person know what I meant? (I am 65)
Are there other such “dating phrases”?

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  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    I’ll be 61 later this month, but when I was young I would have found the term “gramophone record” incredibly old fashioned
  • I insist that the the little box of electrickery in my pocket is called a 'telephone'.
  • PuzzlerPuzzler Shipmate
    Do people still understand “ spend a penny”?
  • They would in the US. Not that anything only costs one cent anymore, but we still have pennies.


  • Puzzler wrote: »
    Do people still understand “ spend a penny”?

    I only really twigged where that phrase came from when reading something historical in my teens. This despite having used a public loo in Oxford when aged about 6 or so where you put a 2p piece in to work the lock! No idea if the phrase is still used; it wasn't all that common where I grew up.
  • Going back to phones, "dial them up" may confuse the younger set, considering that no phone has had a dial in 30 years...
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Going back to phones, "dial them up" may confuse the younger set, considering that no phone has had a dial in 30 years...

    Probably not. Our techs still refer to remote access to a computer system as "dialling in" despite it not involving phones, much less dials, for decades.
  • For which I give thanks. Without anachronisms the language can be colourless and boring.
  • "Would you please tape my presentation next week? I need to put it up on YouTube for someone." (Tape, really? I'm surprised my son never asked me what sticky plastic tape had to do with video)
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Going back to phones, "dial them up" may confuse the younger set, considering that no phone has had a dial in 30 years...

    Probably not. Our techs still refer to remote access to a computer system as "dialling in" despite it not involving phones, much less dials, for decades.

    True, true. But I still have a memory of my nephew staring at my old rotary phone (before my cat destroyed it--but that is another story for another time) and asking "how do you use it????" The old movie gag of listening to the clicks as somebody dials a number to figure out where they are calling may disappear even from "period" movies. How do you explain to new audiences why that would work?
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    They would in the US. Not that anything only costs one cent anymore, but we still have pennies.


    They are going to discontinue making them, though.
  • Gramps49 wrote: »
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    They would in the US. Not that anything only costs one cent anymore, but we still have pennies.


    They are going to discontinue making them, though.
    Yes, no new ones will be made, but existing ones are not being removed from circulation, as I understand it. Estimates are there are 240+ billion pennies currently in circulation, so it will be a long time before they disappear.


  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    They would in the US. Not that anything only costs one cent anymore, but we still have pennies.


    But do you understand the euphemism to “spend a penny”?
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    Hedgehog wrote: »
    Going back to phones, "dial them up" may confuse the younger set, considering that no phone has had a dial in 30 years...

    A bit like saying “hang up” to end a call
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    Priscilla wrote: »
    I was recently in hospital and got talking to another patient about phrases that the “younger generation “ wouldn’t understand. The first one was that another person sounded “like a gramophone record with the needle stuck “
    In this day of digital y, would any young person know what I meant? (I am 65)
    Are there other such “dating phrases”?

    Many youngsters would know this one. My son plays only vinyl at home and has a record player and big old speakers on his 1950s sideboard.

    It's the in thing!
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    For which I give thanks. Without anachronisms the language can be colourless and boring.

    No shortage of those - so many common expressions reference a physical and cultural world we no longer inhabit. 'Pitch black' - when did you last see liquid tar? 'Bone dry' -who is familiar with Ezekiel? 'Sour grapes' - or Aesop? Strong as a horse/stubborn as a mule/fat as a pig - even though we no longer live in proximity with farm animals.
  • Yes, my younger son and girlfriend both have record players and vinyl collections.
  • BoogieBoogie Heaven Host
    edited September 7
    I still say “It’s nothing to write home about.”

    'I'm feeling under the weather.' has very old origins.
    "In the days of sailing ships, the weather bow or rail was the part of the ship that faced directly into bad weather. During a storm this was the worst place to be, since it was most buffeted by the wind. So the original saying was ‘under the weather bow’ which meant in a poor situation or ill and it later became shortened to ‘under the weather’."
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Firenze wrote: »
    For which I give thanks. Without anachronisms the language can be colourless and boring.

    'Pitch black' - when did you last see liquid tar?

    It's used here for waterproofing felt roofs, and the road patching vehicle carries a bucket of hot tar.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Firenze wrote: »
    For which I give thanks. Without anachronisms the language can be colourless and boring.

    'Pitch black' - when did you last see liquid tar?

    It's used here for waterproofing felt roofs, and the road patching vehicle carries a bucket of hot tar.

    I think people would describe it as 'tar' or 'tarmac' rather than pitch.
  • What is the monetary value of a 'penny' in the USA ?
    Is it the official name for a certain coin ?
  • One cent.
  • Spike wrote: »
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    They would in the US. Not that anything only costs one cent anymore, but we still have pennies.


    But do you understand the euphemism to “spend a penny”?
    Ah, no. That it was a euphemism meaning something else (thanks to Google, I now know what that something else is) was totally lost on me.

    Forthview wrote: »
    What is the monetary value of a 'penny' in the USA ?
    Is it the official name for a certain coin ?
    Yes, a penny is the coin that, as @Lamb Chopped says, has a value of one cent (1/100 of a dollar). The plural is pennies rather than pence.


  • 'Thank you'.
    'Please.'
    'Railway station.'
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Firenze wrote: »
    Firenze wrote: »
    For which I give thanks. Without anachronisms the language can be colourless and boring.

    'Pitch black' - when did you last see liquid tar?

    It's used here for waterproofing felt roofs, and the road patching vehicle carries a bucket of hot tar.

    I think people would describe it as 'tar' or 'tarmac' rather than pitch.

    "Pitch and felt" is the usual description of the roof type, but you'd talk about "retarring" the roof. The road material would be tar (the 'mac' being the stony bits).
  • Which is short for "Tarmacadam" and - I think - is actually a trade name.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    What happened to The Hot Asphalt then?
  • HarryCHHarryCH Shipmate
    How about "drop a dime"?
  • Saying to younger relations "FHB*" at a party with a buffet.

    *FHB = Family Hold Back.
  • Calling someone a “daft happorth”
  • My Mum refers to the radio as a wireless. I, however, still mention that I listened to Radio Caroline under the bedclothes on my tranny, which gets me odd looks.
  • LimentinusLimentinus Shipmate Posts: 13
    I'm 63 and did find myself recently saying "Hit-parade" although I did have to slink away from that group of younger people and hide for a time.
  • I said," cocktail party," and my son said, "What was that?"
  • On the other hand, there are some phrases that take on new meanings. One that I got caught on in the presence of a millennial female a few years ago, as I was talking to a friend on a phone, "You and I need to hook up."

    She gave me such a scowl, I realized a made a mistake. I had to explain my friend and I needed to get together.
  • Ooops, @Gramps49 - I am sure I've used that expression innocently myself. Now I tend to say catch-up instead.

    If I said to my friends from the 80's, Dolly did it, it wasn't me, Dolly did it!!, they would all know what I meant, but I suspect anyone younger would not, nor would anyone outside Oz.
  • Dolly didn’t fold till 2016; my daughters (41 and 39) certainly read it! I didn’t as it came out in 1970 when I was past the teeny bopper stage
  • Tree Bee wrote: »
    My Mum refers to the radio as a wireless. I, however, still mention that I listened to Radio Caroline under the bedclothes on my tranny, which gets me odd looks.
    No, no: Radio Luxembourg (207).

  • Alan29Alan29 Shipmate
    I still call it a wireless not a radio.
    I still say "Well I never!"
  • On the phrase "Spend a penny" - I am pretty sure I have, in fact, spent a penny. I do remember toilets with a penny slot. These days, of course, it is 50p or a pound, which would have been ridiculous in my day.

    "That almost an armful!" That really dates me.
  • @Sojourner I loved Dolly magazine and was an avid reader back in the day. Late 70's into the 80's were my readership days. I remember Miranda Kerr and Nicole Kidman being featured as cover girls. However, that wasn't the Dolly I was thinking of.

    I think I was working in my first job when the Comedy Company was on TV with Marianne Fahey performing the schoolgirl Kylie Mole and the toddler (I think her name was Josephine), who always insisted That Dolly did it, when she was caught up to mischief. The online encyclopedia tells me the program aired from 1988-1990.
  • Oh yes I recall Kylie Mole: rooolly
  • Showing my age: early 1980s spent mainly on night shift in a small suburban Sydney hospital with no TV at home
  • I don't think I ever encountered the Dolly magazine, but I remember Dolly the sheep.

  • "That almost an armful!" That really dates me.

    I think far more people use that than can have seen the sketch, though I might be in a biased group as a blood donor.

  • I don't think I ever encountered the Dolly magazine, but I remember Dolly the sheep.


    Well, quite. Dolly the mag was an Australian publication aimed at 13-18 year old girls.


  • "That almost an armful!" That really dates me.

    I think far more people use that than can have seen the sketch, though I might be in a biased group as a blood donor.

    I've got an audio version on vinyl...
  • At least it's not a wax cylinder ...
  • Gill HGill H Shipmate
    Twangist wrote: »

    "That almost an armful!" That really dates me.

    I think far more people use that than can have seen the sketch, though I might be in a biased group as a blood donor.

    I've got an audio version on vinyl...

    Me too, with Radio Ham on the other side.

    Whenever I discuss my upcoming visit to Tokyo, I have to quote “It’s not raining in Tokyo, you know”.
  • "A pint! That's very nearly an armful"
    Strange as it may seem, that and the Tony Hancock sketch it came from were what prompted me to become a blood donor.
    When I said soto the person who enrolled me she gave me a very odd look.
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