But just as you think he cannot go any lower, he does it again.
Why anyone ever thinks he cannot go any lower is frankly beyond me. He has demonstrated time and time again that he can always go lower. We shouldn’t be surprised by it.
One possible explanation for the Obamas as primates has to do with the fact the Melinia movie was such a flop while the Michelle's upcoming movie is getting good reviews.
The only “explanation” is that Trump is a distinctly horrible person, completely lacking any kind of recognizable moral compass beyond “nothing matters but me.”
Miller's a funny one. I was thinking that an odd kind of Goebbels-lite figure, such as he strikes me, lacks the charisma to cut it in public politics without hiding behind someone more palatab... never mind.
Thanks @Stercus Tauri, that had not occurred to me. Elsewhere on the ship (somewhere where I am glad I did not identify a Jewish bloke with a famous Nazi) I was recently bemoaning the loss of a Ship meme-figure of old who no longer makes much of an appearance on these pages. Imagine my delight, when (relevant to this thread) Wikipedia revealed the existence of a genre of Lovecraftian political campaigning, often around the idea 'Cthulhu for president; why settle for the lesser evil?'. It's worth a look; there are even versions in Polish .
I don't see many MAGA-fans appreciating that subtle rebuke, but it certainly cheered me up.
Cthulhu isn't evil. It's an uncaring entity with no understanding of any moral concepts. So it should be, why settle for the lesser entity with no understanding of moral concepts.
I must admit, I've not come across the Cthulhu for president phenomenon before. Now I'm trying to find out how many votes it got in the last few elections, but can't find a source.
I must admit, I've not come across the Cthulhu for president phenomenon before. Now I'm trying to find out how many votes it got in the last few elections, but can't find a source.
You probably won’t find much. Cthulhu would be a write-in, and there aren’t always numbers available for write-ins. (In the state where I live and vote, write-ins aren’t even counted unless a petition with signatures of 500 registered voters is submitted on behalf of the candidate.)
In any event, I think Cthulhu for President and its variants aren’t really about actually getting votes for Cthulhu.
Talking of extra-terrestrials, it appears the Trump distraction machine has actually gone up a gear and that far from jumping the shark, he is reaching to infinity and beyond. I would provide a link, but perhaps you can help yourselves. Just be aware that if you type 'Trump aliens' you'll get lots of depressing ICE-related hits, whilst Trump wants you to look UP.
Our little boy is once again throwing a tantrum over Canada threatening to keep a new bridge entirely build by Canada and jointly owned by Canada and the State of Michigan (goes back to how the treaty was worded) closed until the United States is fairly compensated. No one seems to know what he is talking about. Story Here
And then there was the reaction to the Bad Bunny performance. If you haven't heard, he complained it was all in Spanish which "no one understood" and he complained about the dancing on the set. He had initially said he was not interested in the performance, but he must have watched it in order to comment on it. Reminds me of a little girl saying she won't watch putting her hands over her eyes but keeping the fingers spread out to see what is really happening.
I watched the performance. My Spanish is not all that good, but I did get the message to believe in yourself, and you can accomplish a lot.
Also watched part of the MAGA Turning Point Alternative,
Bad Bunny was much, much better.
There is now a meme going around people are sending Depends coupons to the White House. Not really happening but it might catch on.
I forgot to mention the National Governors Association canceling their meeting with Trump after he extended invitations to only Republicans for a business meeting. There was also supposed to be a White House dinner for all the governors of both parties. Except Trump did not invite Gov Moore of New Jersey (who happens to be black) and Gov. Polis of Colorado (who happens to be gay). While the dinner is still going on 18 Democratic governors have indicated they will not attend the gathering.
There is more and more talk Trump will probably not finish out this term.
Republicans rebels have stopped a bill in congress. The Reps seem to be getting fed up with the state of play
Are you talking about procedural vote that would have blocked resolutions which disapprove of the Trump tariffs? Does not have the same status as a regular bill, but affects how the House will proceed on pending resolutions presented by the Democrats on the tariffs. Even those resolutions will not stop the tariffs, but they will give Democrats a platform for the upcoming elections.
But it does show the House that Trump built is beginning to crumble.
And then there was the reaction to the Bad Bunny performance. If you haven't heard, he complained it was all in Spanish which "no one understood" and he complained about the dancing on the set. He had initially said he was not interested in the performance, but he must have watched it in order to comment on it.
The have been a number of photos and videos from Mar a lago that showed the Bad Bunny performance being watched there, in Tr*mp's presence.
Republicans rebels have stopped a bill in congress. The Reps seem to be getting fed up with the state of play
Are you talking about procedural vote that would have blocked resolutions which disapprove of the Trump tariffs? Does not have the same status as a regular bill, but affects how the House will proceed on pending resolutions presented by the Democrats on the tariffs. Even those resolutions will not stop the tariffs, but they will give Democrats a platform for the upcoming elections.
But it does show the House that Trump built is beginning to crumble.
Not sure if anyone got to see the most recent Pam Bondi testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. I watched it. At first I was shocked. She really ripped into the Democrats every chance she could. In between her responses she was frantically paging though a binder next to her. And she let some insult rip.
Turns out that binder was called her Mean Girl Burn book. She had her staffers come up with insults that would make Don Rickles proud but many times, I think he would be steaming.
The hearing, to say the least, was very contentious. But toward the end, the lawmakers on both sides were laughing at her. They realized what the book she kept refering to was a book of insults. They also realized she was playing to an audience of one, Mr Trump. She was his mouthpiece. It was as if he was throwing the insults at them.
Once I realized what was happening it was like a good old-fashioned roast. Here is a short story of the incident along with a link to a video.
In truth even conservative commentators were wondering how she could keep her job.
Not sure if anyone got to see the most recent Pam Bondi testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. I watched it. At first I was shocked. She really ripped into the Democrats every chance she could. In between her responses she was frantically paging though a binder next to her. And she let some insult rip.
Turns out that binder was called her Mean Girl Burn book. She had her staffers come up with insults that would make Don Rickles proud but many times, I think he would be steaming.
The hearing, to say the least, was very contentious. But toward the end, the lawmakers on both sides were laughing at her. They realized what the book she kept refering to was a book of insults. They also realized she was playing to an audience of one, Mr Trump. She was his mouthpiece. It was as if he was throwing the insults at them.
Once I realized what was happening it was like a good old-fashioned roast. Here is a short story of the incident along with a link to a video.
In truth even conservative commentators were wondering how she could keep her job.
One Democrat noted that Trump's name appears in the Files more times than God's name in the bible, and then held up a Trump Bible and said "Here's a Trump Bible. Move over King James."
Where did I see this? We are told the redacted files show Trumps name 38,000 times. People who have seen the unredacted files say his name appears over a million times. That means we only know 3.8% of the story.
But I can see how Epstein would draw people into his web. A VIP (such as Nobel Prize Chairman Japland) is coming to a party, want to join in? Very attractive to people who want to be in the in crowd. Trump going to be at a party, want to join us? (Nope, not for me.)
I saw this. Bondi would have been removed from the meeting over here. Her deputy would have been expected to carry on. Very childish. Yes she was playing up to Trump. The thing is as soon as Trump sees no use for her, her loyalty won’t matter a jot.
Oh, no, it just means that he will keep throwing tariffs at everyone under another pretext. He'll ignore SCOTUS' ruling that he doesn't have the right to impose taxation, that only Congress can do so. Trump just shoved aside International Emergency Economic Powers Act that SCOTUS ruled against and is now applying a 10% global tax under the authority of the Trade Act of 1974.
Oh, no, it just means that he will keep throwing tariffs at everyone under another pretext. He'll ignore SCOTUS' ruling that he doesn't have the right to impose taxation, that only Congress can do so. Trump just shoved aside International Emergency Economic Powers Act that SCOTUS ruled against and is now applying a 10% global tax under the authority of the Trade Act of 1974.
Our country is being run by a two year old.
A two year old in a day care run by lunatics. He's not doing all this alone.
Trump's two pillars of his populist nationalism are crumbling. He came into office claiming tariffs would create a resurgence in American manufacturing, and he promised to deport the worst of the worst when it came to undocumented Americans. Both policies have placed him so underwater he will likely lose both houses of Congress, so now he is trying to change the rules of elections. His mighty ship is sinking fast.
Trump's two pillars of his populist nationalism are crumbling. He came into office claiming tariffs would create a resurgence in American manufacturing, and he promised to deport the worst of the worst when it came to undocumented Americans. Both policies have placed him so underwater he will likely lose both houses of Congress, so now he is trying to change the rules of elections. His mighty ship is sinking fast.
I doubt that. The Repugnicans will turn every subsequent election, especially for President, into the same single issue vote as before and the outcome will be as for Trump.
@sionisais I disagree up to a point - I am pretty sure that Trump and MAGA will lose IF the elections are fair. But I am not sure they will be. I think a combination of pre-election dirty tricks and hysteria-raising combined with election and post-election fraud will be attempted.
@sionisais I disagree up to a point - I am pretty sure that Trump and MAGA will lose IF the elections are fair. But I am not sure they will be. I think a combination of pre-election dirty tricks and hysteria-raising combined with election and post-election fraud will be attempted.
I’m more in agreement with you than you may think. Hysteria raising is Trump’s stock in trade and I don’t see any changes there, whoever runs. A repeat of CREEP is likely so a Woodward and Bernstein of the 21st century may well be necessary (plus a brave, senior and sensible insider).
Here’s hoping.
@sionisais I disagree up to a point - I am pretty sure that Trump and MAGA will lose IF the elections are fair. But I am not sure they will be. I think a combination of pre-election dirty tricks and hysteria-raising combined with election and post-election fraud will be attempted.
All I can say is the Democrats will fight all the way towards keeping elections fair. For instance, while 50 Republicans have said they will vote for the SAVE act, the Democrats can still filibuster. There is some talk about nuking the filibuster. If that happens, there are a number of Democratic state attorneys who will fight it in court.
Normally, given the three tier court system we have, it could take up to 18 months for SCOTUS to rule on it. But there is a fast track scenario. The court can step in if the case affects an imminent federal election. It took only a matter of days to intervene with the Bush v Gore case.
Given the most recent case concerning Tariffs, it appears the court would most likely side with the constitution, upholding the States' Right to handle elections.
Trump's two pillars of his populist nationalism are crumbling. He came into office claiming tariffs would create a resurgence in American manufacturing, and he promised to deport the worst of the worst when it came to undocumented Americans. Both policies have placed him so underwater he will likely lose both houses of Congress, so now he is trying to change the rules of elections. His mighty ship is sinking fast.
Do not be fooled into believing that the trump ship is sinking. He remains the successful role model for millions who want imagined racial and ethnic purity, and his belief in tariffs to hide a weak and mismanaged economy is shared by an alarming number of people. Unless a truly strong leader - of either party - emerges, this ship will not sink soon.
Point of information. Fox News even says 63% of Americans disapprove of Trump's tariffs. 74% of Americans believe the tariffs contributed to our inflation. See this
You put your finger on an important factor: provided it is a fair election. I confess that I am not an optimist when I keep seeing how easy it is to persuade people vote against their own interests; not just in the USA, of course. He may be underwater right now, but he has a plentiful supply of oxygen while he is still useful to the oxygen suppliers.
In American politics, people usually vote their pocketbooks. A key word heard across the United States is "affordability." When Trump's tariffs mean Americans have paid upwards of $2,000 this year, that hits Americans where it hurts. Immigration has helped to keep products affordable and allowed new businesses to form and prosper. It is not as direct as the tariffs, but it plays into pocketbook issues too.
I will give you an example. I had to rebuild a back shed this year. I have not been able to get the trusses for the roof in a timely manner because the labor that would have built it would have come from immigrants. Likewise, I want to install a metal roof, but there has been a delay due to the shortages of aluminum, which would have come from Canada. Canada has cut back its United States supply. What would have come to the US is now being sold to China.
I honestly do not see Trump ever resurfacing. Just looking at this chart shows a steady increase in Trump's unfavourability reading since Jan 20, 2025. He is a goner.
In American politics, people usually vote their pocketbooks.
Would it not be truer to say people vote their perception of their pocketbooks, a perception that is shaped not just by reality but by propaganda?
Indeed. Though I think, for example, that when Obama beat McCain on the basis of the economy in 2008, the economy really was in as crappy shape as Democratic propaganda claimed.
In American politics, people usually vote their pocketbooks.
Would it not be truer to say people vote their perception of their pocketbooks, a perception that is shaped not just by reality but by propaganda?
Yes. Lots of people voted for Trump out of a general sense of frustration that the system wasn't working for them, that "coastal elites" didn't care about them.
trump and 'care' don't belong in the same sentence.
Sure, but a lot of Democratic politicians don't seem to care either. Biden seemed to care about regular people, but not enough to step aside when he should have. Clinton threw gay people under the bus his first week in office and later cut food stamps. Gavin Newsom is touted as a candidate for 2028, but the pictures of him tossing homeless people's belongings in the trash just as soon as the Supreme Court said it was legal to clear their encampments don't make me think he cares.
I don't like the Trump voters - I stopped going to church altogether in 2016 when the priest said we had to accept them and didn't say anything about the horrors they had voted for. And every time the New York Times sends a reporter to interview assholes in some midwestern diner about why they voted for Trump I want to vomit. But in the US if we're ever going to have a decent country, we need to understand what motivates Trump voters, if only to neutralize their impact.
So we can't just say they voted their pocketbook, because though some did, a lot of Trump's lasting support has come from white people in suburbs who are doing just fine.
I saw quite a good YouTube piece with Bernie Sanders meeting up with Trump voters - it was a channel called moreperfectunion - they were in Mingo County in West Virginia,
Basically, it seemed like people were poor, neglected and left behind - and they were looking for someone different who promised to make it better.
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The only “explanation” is that Trump is a distinctly horrible person, completely lacking any kind of recognizable moral compass beyond “nothing matters but me.”
I'm sure you can fill in the remaining 4 letters.
Some of the more coherently psychopathic are widely thought to come from Miller.
I don't see many MAGA-fans appreciating that subtle rebuke, but it certainly cheered me up.
In any event, I think Cthulhu for President and its variants aren’t really about actually getting votes for Cthulhu.
And then there was the reaction to the Bad Bunny performance. If you haven't heard, he complained it was all in Spanish which "no one understood" and he complained about the dancing on the set. He had initially said he was not interested in the performance, but he must have watched it in order to comment on it. Reminds me of a little girl saying she won't watch putting her hands over her eyes but keeping the fingers spread out to see what is really happening.
I watched the performance. My Spanish is not all that good, but I did get the message to believe in yourself, and you can accomplish a lot.
Also watched part of the MAGA Turning Point Alternative,
Bad Bunny was much, much better.
There is now a meme going around people are sending Depends coupons to the White House. Not really happening but it might catch on.
There is more and more talk Trump will probably not finish out this term.
Are you talking about procedural vote that would have blocked resolutions which disapprove of the Trump tariffs? Does not have the same status as a regular bill, but affects how the House will proceed on pending resolutions presented by the Democrats on the tariffs. Even those resolutions will not stop the tariffs, but they will give Democrats a platform for the upcoming elections.
But it does show the House that Trump built is beginning to crumble.
Politico story here.
The have been a number of photos and videos from Mar a lago that showed the Bad Bunny performance being watched there, in Tr*mp's presence.
Edited to fix quote tags. Dafyd Hell Host
I know we all know this already but I have to say it - the man's not just an utter fuckwit, he's a fucking dangerous utter fuckwit.
Yes. That last paragraph was the real point
Turns out that binder was called her Mean Girl Burn book. She had her staffers come up with insults that would make Don Rickles proud but many times, I think he would be steaming.
The hearing, to say the least, was very contentious. But toward the end, the lawmakers on both sides were laughing at her. They realized what the book she kept refering to was a book of insults. They also realized she was playing to an audience of one, Mr Trump. She was his mouthpiece. It was as if he was throwing the insults at them.
Once I realized what was happening it was like a good old-fashioned roast. Here is a short story of the incident along with a link to a video.
In truth even conservative commentators were wondering how she could keep her job.
One Democrat noted that Trump's name appears in the Files more times than God's name in the bible, and then held up a Trump Bible and said "Here's a Trump Bible. Move over King James."
But I can see how Epstein would draw people into his web. A VIP (such as Nobel Prize Chairman Japland) is coming to a party, want to join in? Very attractive to people who want to be in the in crowd. Trump going to be at a party, want to join us? (Nope, not for me.)
Our country is being run by a two year old.
A two year old in a day care run by lunatics. He's not doing all this alone.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton-valid-visa-detained-ice
I doubt that. The Repugnicans will turn every subsequent election, especially for President, into the same single issue vote as before and the outcome will be as for Trump.
I’m more in agreement with you than you may think. Hysteria raising is Trump’s stock in trade and I don’t see any changes there, whoever runs. A repeat of CREEP is likely so a Woodward and Bernstein of the 21st century may well be necessary (plus a brave, senior and sensible insider).
Here’s hoping.
All I can say is the Democrats will fight all the way towards keeping elections fair. For instance, while 50 Republicans have said they will vote for the SAVE act, the Democrats can still filibuster. There is some talk about nuking the filibuster. If that happens, there are a number of Democratic state attorneys who will fight it in court.
Normally, given the three tier court system we have, it could take up to 18 months for SCOTUS to rule on it. But there is a fast track scenario. The court can step in if the case affects an imminent federal election. It took only a matter of days to intervene with the Bush v Gore case.
Given the most recent case concerning Tariffs, it appears the court would most likely side with the constitution, upholding the States' Right to handle elections.
Do not be fooled into believing that the trump ship is sinking. He remains the successful role model for millions who want imagined racial and ethnic purity, and his belief in tariffs to hide a weak and mismanaged economy is shared by an alarming number of people. Unless a truly strong leader - of either party - emerges, this ship will not sink soon.
For that matter many polls report only 38% Americans support Trump's immigration policies. Up to 62% disapprove of them See https://www.trtworld.com/article/dc433eca7c0f
Yep, Trump is so underwater now there is no chance he can keep Congress during the mid term elections provided it is a fair election.
I will give you an example. I had to rebuild a back shed this year. I have not been able to get the trusses for the roof in a timely manner because the labor that would have built it would have come from immigrants. Likewise, I want to install a metal roof, but there has been a delay due to the shortages of aluminum, which would have come from Canada. Canada has cut back its United States supply. What would have come to the US is now being sold to China.
I honestly do not see Trump ever resurfacing. Just looking at this chart shows a steady increase in Trump's unfavourability reading since Jan 20, 2025. He is a goner.
Would it not be truer to say people vote their perception of their pocketbooks, a perception that is shaped not just by reality but by propaganda?
Indeed. Though I think, for example, that when Obama beat McCain on the basis of the economy in 2008, the economy really was in as crappy shape as Democratic propaganda claimed.
Yes. Lots of people voted for Trump out of a general sense of frustration that the system wasn't working for them, that "coastal elites" didn't care about them.
Sure, but a lot of Democratic politicians don't seem to care either. Biden seemed to care about regular people, but not enough to step aside when he should have. Clinton threw gay people under the bus his first week in office and later cut food stamps. Gavin Newsom is touted as a candidate for 2028, but the pictures of him tossing homeless people's belongings in the trash just as soon as the Supreme Court said it was legal to clear their encampments don't make me think he cares.
I don't like the Trump voters - I stopped going to church altogether in 2016 when the priest said we had to accept them and didn't say anything about the horrors they had voted for. And every time the New York Times sends a reporter to interview assholes in some midwestern diner about why they voted for Trump I want to vomit. But in the US if we're ever going to have a decent country, we need to understand what motivates Trump voters, if only to neutralize their impact.
So we can't just say they voted their pocketbook, because though some did, a lot of Trump's lasting support has come from white people in suburbs who are doing just fine.
Basically, it seemed like people were poor, neglected and left behind - and they were looking for someone different who promised to make it better.
(https://youtu.be/RP8Oxe6OxJc?si=MswAio6PDnk4j7mU)