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  • If your shoes squeak it means that they haven't been paid for.
  • Diomedes wrote: »
    Eating a boiled egg and then turning the empty shell upside down in the egg-cup, bashing the shell with a spoon until it cracks - while shouting 'Kill the Witches'! I never thought it was strange until I watched my son teaching it to my 2 year old grandson.

    We did this as 1950's children. I had forgotten!

    As to which end to start from, but are you a 'Big Ender' or a 'Small Ender'?
  • stetsonstetson Shipmate
    edited February 21
    If your shoes squeak it means that they haven't been paid for.

    There might be a certain logic to that, if you're paying on an installment plan: the newer the shoes, the more likely they are to be a) not fully paid for, and b) squeaky, due to not being fully broken in.
  • I vaguely remember that the big endian, small endian dispute is mentioned in Gulliver’s Travels, where it is code for opposing views on transubstantiation. Perhaps we should revisit Swift’s “a modest proposal” which could apply to a number of contemporary situations.
  • EigonEigon Shipmate
    We were told that you smash the eggshells so the witches can't use them to fly around in, like little boats!
  • Was also told about smashing egg shells. In retrospect curious how I leant this as came from a middle class English family. As mentioned in this discussion, I also greet Magpies when we meet. Also can't remember how this came about from my youth 60 years ago.
  • Regarding the 'big ender' v 'small ender' debate - it seemed logical to my child brain that the more conical end would fit more securely in the egg-cup while I was eating. The Killing of Witches was just random spoon bashing!!
  • I vaguely remember a superstition which involved holding your collar when you saw a hearse (or ambulance) until you saw a - what? Anyone know? Is it peculiar to Norfolk maybe?
  • Tree Bee wrote: »
    I vaguely remember a superstition which involved holding your collar when you saw a hearse (or ambulance) until you saw a - what? Anyone know? Is it peculiar to Norfolk maybe?

    My parents use to do that in the car - until we saw a 4-legged animal. That was in Essex so not Norfolk specific.
  • We said "hold your collar, never swaller (swallow), never catch the fever" - and held on till we saw a black cat. It was passed on by my cousins who were at school in Hertfordshire.
  • Right enough about Hertfordshire. You had to hold your collar when an ambulance went past, though I don't remember the hearse or the black cat requirement. Who remembers the Daimler ambulances with the big bell on the front? No flashing lights or sirens back then.
  • We said "hold your collar, never swaller (swallow), never catch the fever" - and held on till we saw a black cat. It was passed on by my cousins who were at school in Hertfordshire.

    I'm just imagining doing this for days while waiting in vain to see a black cat.
  • SpikeSpike Ecclesiantics & MW Host, Admin Emeritus
    We said "hold your collar, never swaller (swallow), never catch the fever" - and held on till we saw a black cat. It was passed on by my cousins who were at school in Hertfordshire.

    What happened if you didn’t see a black cat?
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I was wondering that.
  • Haha, thank you, I think it was seeing a 4 legged creature that released your hold on your collar. In rural Norfolk you didn’t have long to wait.
  • I think a cat of any colour would be acceptable at a pinch, We didn't take it that seriously as it only came from the cousins, not from a fount of authority like our mother or grandmother!
  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    Tree Bee wrote: »
    Haha, thank you, I think it was seeing a 4 legged creature that released your hold on your collar. In rural Norfolk you didn’t have long to wait.

    I think that is the version I knew, probably from my grandmother who was a country woman from Northamptonshire.
  • NenyaNenya All Saints Host, Ecclesiantics & MW Host
    Diomedes wrote: »
    Eating a boiled egg and then turning the empty shell upside down in the egg-cup, bashing the shell with a spoon until it cracks - while shouting 'Kill the Witches'! I never thought it was strange until I watched my son teaching it to my 2 year old grandson.

    Well, that's a blast from the past that I'd completely forgotten until you mentioned it. My father used to do this with his empty boiled eggshell - like @Eigon , his reason was so that the witches couldn't use them as boats to travel around in.
  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    My grandmother had a horseshoe hanging up in her kitchen. It was the "right way up" so that the luck wouldn't run out. I later came across a different version, you should turn it points down so that it didn't make a seat for a witch to sit in.
  • stetson wrote: »
    From my Irish side:
    Babies are always born on a falling tide.

    I assume that's linked to the idea of more babies being born during a full moon.

    Mrs Rogue is a midwife and she and all her colleagues are convinced that things are busier and more wild at the full moon. I did once ask her if the statistics backed up that view but she didn't want to investigate.
  • I had an abusive reader who used to send me scary messages telling me how horrible I was every few weeks--bad enough that my work held a meeting to discuss security in case he or someone else came to our office with violence on his mind. Just out of curiosity I tracked his messages against the calendar, and all but one came at the full moon. (Haven't heard from him since the pandemic.)
  • I’ll have to monitor my mood swings and see if I am more of a ‘lunatic’ at full moon.
    (manic depression is seasonal, and many of us also have seasonal affective disorder. I am depressed in the winter but manic in the spring; mad March is a recognised phenomenon in psychiatry. I see no reason why the brightness of the moon might not a have a similar but less intense influence)
  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Mrs Feet suspects that both the cycles of the Moon and barometric pressure changes impact on her mental health and chronic pain/ME.
  • When I worked in a psychiatric hospital we always seemed to get more admissions at the time of the full moon.
  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited February 25
    Mrs Feet suspects that both the cycles of the Moon and barometric pressure changes impact on her mental health and chronic pain/ME.
    It recognised in orthopaedics that barometric pressure impacts on joint pain.
  • Mrs Feet suspects that both the cycles of the Moon and barometric pressure changes impact on her mental health and chronic pain/ME.
    It recognised in orthopaedics that barometric pressure impacts on joint pain.
    It certainly has an impact on my sinuses.


  • HeavenlyannieHeavenlyannie Shipmate
    edited February 25
    From a quick scan through some articles, the premise for ‘lunacy’ is that moonlight can impact negatively on sleep, and sleep deprivation is a known trigger for mania. Obviously this would have impacted traditional societies more than modern ones, as our lifestyles are now less governed by natural light. So madness became associated with the moon.
  • From a quick scan through some articles, the premise for ‘lunacy’ is that moonlight can impact negatively on sleep, and sleep deprivation is a known trigger for mania. Obviously this would have impacted traditional societies more than modern ones, as our lifestyles are now less governed by natural light. So madness became associated with the moon.

    Certainly that could be one element of why madness is associated with the moon, on a corporeal level. There could be other reasons as well, in my view.
  • Many years ago I worked on the delivery ward of a maternity unit, and it certainly got busier around the full moon. There was also a small increase in the number of Mums in labour at the new moon.
  • Sheffield has what I would call a folk sacrament.

    If you find money, you must give it away, for as the ditty goes:
    Find a penny, pick it up,
    All day you’ll have good luck
    Give it to a faithful friend,
    Then your luck will NEVER end!
  • Jengie Jon wrote: »
    Sheffield has what I would call a folk sacrament.

    If you find money, you must give it away, for as the ditty goes:
    Find a penny, pick it up,
    All day you’ll have good luck
    Give it to a faithful friend,
    Then your luck will NEVER end!

    On my childhood lamp shade
    Find a penny, pick it up
    And all day you'll have good luck.
    Put the penny in the bank.
    And good fortune you will think.

    The lamp had a little bank on it.
  • ChastMastr wrote: »
    From a quick scan through some articles, the premise for ‘lunacy’ is that moonlight can impact negatively on sleep, and sleep deprivation is a known trigger for mania. Obviously this would have impacted traditional societies more than modern ones, as our lifestyles are now less governed by natural light. So madness became associated with the moon.

    Certainly that could be one element of why madness is associated with the moon, on a corporeal level. There could be other reasons as well, in my view.

    Slight tangent

    One of my Dylan Dog comic book stories has a policeman who climbs rooftops and howls naked at the full moon.
    His colleagues like him and explain to Dylan that this is just a normal characteristic for him and they are accustomed to it.

    Tangent End
  • Jengie Jon wrote: »
    Find a penny, pick it up,
    All day you’ll have good luck
    Give it to a faithful friend,
    Then your luck will NEVER end!

    The version I knew of that was
    'See a pin and pick it up, all that day you'll have good luck',
    I don't recall a longer version.

  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    ChastMastr wrote: »
    From a quick scan through some articles, the premise for ‘lunacy’ is that moonlight can impact negatively on sleep, and sleep deprivation is a known trigger for mania. Obviously this would have impacted traditional societies more than modern ones, as our lifestyles are now less governed by natural light. So madness became associated with the moon.

    Certainly that could be one element of why madness is associated with the moon, on a corporeal level. There could be other reasons as well, in my view.

    Slight tangent

    One of my Dylan Dog comic book stories has a policeman who climbs rooftops and howls naked at the full moon.
    His colleagues like him and explain to Dylan that this is just a normal characteristic for him and they are accustomed to it.

    Tangent End

    Sounds a bit Terry Pratchett-ish!
  • See a pin and pick it up and all day long you'll have a pin.
  • North East QuineNorth East Quine Purgatory Host
    See a penny, pick it up
    All that day you'll have good luck
    If you give it to another
    Then your luck will last for ever.
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