Donald ******* Trump

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  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate, Heaven Host
    Iranian descent and Iranian are two quite different things. I realise there is a custom in the US to identify yourself with an "old country" long after you've lost any real connection to it but the distinction is not trivial.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    trump seems to have a literal red neck. Interesting - what might have caused it?

    Most of the speculation I've seen is shingles, though I have seen more esoteric diagnoses. He's certainly in the right age demographic for shingles outbreak.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Hell Host
    Not all skin cancers are malignant, but, even so, they are not nice to have.

    Possibly a case of the skin cancer being attached to something malignant.
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    Mr E wrote: »
    The larger point isn't with respect to actual, uncounted numbers, but whether these [ Iranian ] diaspora immigrants were supportive and celebrating Donald Trump's decisive actions.

    They are.

    Certainly. Most of the diaspora are people who fled the current regime (or their descendants), so they're likely to support any move against it. If Trump's "plan", to the extent he has one, is similar to his actions in Venezuela (remove the top guy and cut a deal leaving the remainder of the regime in power) I expect enthusiasm among the Iranian diaspora to follow a similar trajectory to enthusiasm among the Venezuelan diaspora.

    Of course it would be a category error to try to extrapolate opinion from diasporan Iranians (who are not currently being bombed by the U.S. and Israel) to Iranians still living in Iran (many of whom are being bombed and probably have different range of opinions of the Iranian regime than their diasporan counterparts). That kind of over-generalization often leads to the "we will be greeted as liberators" self-deception.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    @Mr E, you said 500,000 in Los Angeles alone. There are roughly 3.8-3.9 million people in LA. One-eighth of them are not of Iranian descent.

    In addition to what @Crœsos said about the feelings of the Iranian diaspora, they've been here for about 45 years, they have a high rate of intermarriage with non-Iranians, and they're well integrated into US society. Of course they have feelings about what's going on in Iran, but at this point they're Americans. You emphasize that they call themselves Persians, which to me indicates a strong ethnic identification that is very different from a strong national identification.
  • A really unkind Democratic friend remarked today the the much-publicised malignant growth on trump's neck is in fact his head.
  • Gramps49Gramps49 Shipmate
    A really unkind Democratic friend remarked today the the much-publicised malignant growth on trump's neck is in fact his head.

    And, just how is this unkind?
  • SandemaniacSandemaniac Shipmate
    Gramps49 wrote: »
    A really unkind Democratic friend remarked today the the much-publicised malignant growth on trump's neck is in fact his head.

    And, just how is this unkind?

    It's unkind to malignant growths.
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