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        <title>Biden — Ship of Fools</title>
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        <title>Purgatory: 2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread (Epiphanies rules apply)</title>
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        <description><![CDATA[We are exactly one month away from the first Republican presidential debate (23 August 2023) of the 2024 election so it seemed like a good time to start an election thread.  Since the Democrats have an incumbent president running for re-election there are no Democratic primary debates currently scheduled.  At the moment it's looking like it's going to be a rematch of the 2020 presidential election.  Here are the candidates currently in the running, sorted by party and in descending order of polled support.<br />
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<b><u>REPUBLICANS</u></b><br />
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<b>Donald John Trump:</b>  Despite multiple felony indictments Trump is still the heavy favorite to win the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.  Not much needs to be said here since we've mostly said it all somewhere else on the Ship over the past eight years.<br />
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<b>Ronald Dion DeSantis:</b>  Currently the governor of Florida, DeSantis is the only declared Republican candidate other than Trump polling double-digit support.  He mostly seems to be running on a platform of deliberate cruelty to anyone who isn't a straight white man.  Despite a lot of assistance from the political press who want to cast him as the Responsible Republican Daddy they all crave his campaign has been in free-fall since he announced his candidacy.<br />
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<b>Vivek Ganapathy Ramaswamy:</b>  An entrepreneur who has never held elected office.  In addition to the usual Republican positions of cruelty towards women and LGBTQ+ people, Ramaswamy has pledged to rule by decree, fire half the federal workforce, and limit the employment tenure of the remaining federal workers to eight years at most.  He also holds pro-Russian positions on the Ukraine War, proposing to cede to Russia Ukrainian territory currently occupied.<br />
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<b>Michael Richard Pence:</b>  Trump's ex-vice president*.  It's very difficult to pin down what Pence's policy positions are for his run for president.  He mostly seems to be running on his record with Trump, but with no explanation as to why someone who found that appealing wouldn't just vote for Trump.<br />
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<b>Nimarata Nikki Haley (née Randhawa):</b>  Former governor of South Carolina and former U.N. Ambassador.  Haley believes DeSantis' &quot;Don't Say Gay&quot; law doesn't go far enough.  She's a bit of an outlier in the Republican field when it comes to Russia's war against Ukraine, having taken a pro-Ukrainian position.<br />
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<b>Timothy Eugene Scott:</b>  Currently represents South Carolina in the U.S. Senate.  Mostly holds standard Republican views but admits that racism is a real thing and disagrees with Trump that there were &quot;good people on both sides&quot; of the fascist rally in Charlottesville, VA.<br />
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<b>Christopher James Christie:</b>  Former governor of New Jersey.  The highest polling Republican (currently ~2.1%) willing to call out Donald Trump on his criminality and abuse of power.  Supported Trump as recently as 2020, when Christie was Trump's debate coach.  Aside from his opposition to Donald Trump Christie holds fairly standard Republican positions.<br />
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<b>Douglas James Burgum:</b>  Current governor of North Dakota.  Standard Republican policy positions and currently polling at less than 0.5%.<br />
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<b>William Asa Hutchinson II:</b>  Former governor of Arkansas.  Like Christie, Hutchinson is willing to openly criticize Donald Trump.  Otherwise a standard-issue Republican.<br />
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<b>Francis Xavier Suarez:</b>  Current mayor of Miami, FL.  Aside from some very tepid support for the rights of LGBTQ+ Americans Suarez is a standard Republican.<br />
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There are others in the Republican field, but their support as currently polled is minimal.  Most of the Republican candidacies at this point seem to be employing a &quot;hoping Trump dies&quot; strategy.<br />
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<b><u>DEMOCRATS</u></b><br />
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<b>Joseph Robinette Biden:</b>  Current President of the United States.  President Biden is almost certain to win his party's nomination for president.<br />
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<b>Robert Francis Kennedy, Jr.:</b>  A conspiracy theorist who has never held elected office.  RFK, Jr. holds surprisingly anti-Ukrainian views and claims COVID-19 was a genetically engineered bioweapon built to target white and black people and be less dangerous to Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews.  His support among his only true constituency (the American political press) has collapsed recently when he started getting more press coverage.  Ironic.<br />
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<b>Marianne Deborah Williamson:</b>  A self-help author who has never held elected office. Williamson is mostly notable for running for president in the 2020 Democratic primary and securing zero delegates.  It is almost impossible to distinguish her alleged presidential campaign from an exercise in getting free publicity.]]>
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