However, I'm pleased to see that certain Purgatory threads, consisting mostly of walls of text tl/dr, are occasionally enlivened, nay, illuminated, by pungent comments from Martin...
However, I'm pleased to see that certain Purgatory threads, consisting mostly of walls of text tl/dr, are occasionally enlivened, nay, illuminated, by pungent comments from Martin...
Sometimes enlivened, or sometimes (appropriately) taken down a few notches. But sometimes in the threads of which you speak, it seems to me to be more of the same annoying crap of responding in intentionally obtuse semi-sentences. It’s just that the recipients of the crap are sometimes equally annoying.
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and all that. If your apologies really are sincere and unconditional, then show a modicum of self-control and stop doing the things you say you’re sorry for.
However, I'm pleased to see that certain Purgatory threads, consisting mostly of walls of text tl/dr, are occasionally enlivened, nay, illuminated, by pungent comments from Martin...
Sometimes enlivened, or sometimes (appropriately) taken down a few notches. But sometimes in the threads of which you speak, it seems to me to be more of the same annoying crap of responding in intentionally obtuse semi-sentences. It’s just that the recipients of the crap are sometimes equally annoying.
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and all that. If your apologies really are sincere and unconditional, then show a modicum of self-control and stop doing the things you say you’re sorry for.
What I'm sorry for in this instance is having absurd expectations about Christianity and fellow Christians, including their sense of community and finally realised that in my dotage. I wouldn't dream of challenging that in my evangelical Anglican fellowshipping. And it can't be done in Purgatory either.
However, I'm pleased to see that certain Purgatory threads, consisting mostly of walls of text tl/dr, are occasionally enlivened, nay, illuminated, by pungent comments from Martin...
Sometimes enlivened, or sometimes (appropriately) taken down a few notches. But sometimes in the threads of which you speak, it seems to me to be more of the same annoying crap of responding in intentionally obtuse semi-sentences. It’s just that the recipients of the crap are sometimes equally annoying.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts (unlike those of others I could name, but won't, for fear of litigation, or even worse, Hostly Admonition™) are SHORT.
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Yes. The last lurch of the emotional roller coaster: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Then the circuit begins again. And the enablers are right there to keep it going.
It's that last bit that -- the enabling-- that irks me, as a reader genuinely interested in these discussions, the most.
Sorry if it irks you, but, as an occasional Enabler™, I do it because, IMHO, Martin may have come up with something worth considering (even if only for a moment!).
I know he can be as Obscure as the Obscurest Thing ever propounded by the Professor of Obscurity at Obscuretown University, but...
Forums need some eccentrics and outliers. In fact, some forums I've been on benefited from a few trolls, to sort of tickle the parts other feathers cannot reach.
If one is going to be drunk all the time, one should at least have the decency to be Winston Churchill or Ulysses S Grant.
What's decent about being Churchill?
His wit is certainly an improvement on Martin's, and he could at least function despite breakfasting on a magnum of champagne, which was my main point.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts are SHORT.
His actual contributions are usually short. Many of his posts consist of the entirety of someone else's post quoted with a one line remark at the end. That is a hassle if you want to scroll past the lot.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts are SHORT.
His actual contributions are usually short. Many of his posts consist of the entirety of someone else's post quoted with a one line remark at the end. That is a hassle if you want to scroll past the lot.
And often that one line remark is something like "No," with no clue as to what part of the long quote his "no" is supposed to apply to.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts (unlike those of others I could name, but won't, for fear of litigation, or even worse, Hostly Admonition™) are SHORT.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts (unlike those of others I could name, but won't, for fear of litigation, or even worse, Hostly Admonition™) are SHORT.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts (unlike those of others I could name, but won't, for fear of litigation, or even worse, Hostly Admonition™) are SHORT.
So long and thanks for all the fish. The opprobrium is well earned. The realization above is genuine. Mousethief, you can't read minds for shit. Bless you.
Don't leave Martin - stay and debate theology. The Ship is like the Symposium of Athens - only it's the Monty Python version of it. Meaningful discussions with a side order of banter.
Don't leave Martin - stay and debate theology. The Ship is like the Symposium of Athens - only it's the Monty Python version of it. Meaningful discussions with a side order of banter.
Martin, I forbid you to leave until you have put James Boswell into a crying fetal position and he publicly recants his nonsense on your promise never to talk to him again. Do your duty Martin.
Martin, I forbid you to leave until you have put James Boswell into a crying fetal position and he publicly recants his nonsense on your promise never to talk to him again. Do your duty Martin.
Martin, I forbid you to leave until you have put James Boswell into a crying fetal position and he publicly recants his nonsense on your promise never to talk to him again. Do your duty Martin.
You’re our only hope, Martin!
Martin as Obi-Wan Kenobi, with his Jedi mind tricks.
The next time someone leaves or threatens to do so, I hope everyone is equally as effusive as they are to them in asking them to stay, as they are to Martin here
The next time someone leaves or threatens to do so, I hope everyone is equally as effusive as they are to them in asking them to stay, as they are to Martin here
I'm going to be less effusive. Unless you actually want to contribute meaningfully to discussion, please feel free.
The next time someone leaves or threatens to do so, I hope everyone is equally as effusive as they are to them in asking them to stay, as they are to Martin here
Don't leave, ExclamationMark. It changes nothing. You can go a thousand online fora away but you can never escape the Ship of Fools forum within your soul.
gods forbid that I should be a sort of Devil's Advocate for Martin, but at least his posts (unlike those of others I could name, but won't, for fear of litigation, or even worse, Hostly Admonition™) are SHORT.
Go and be missed by a few and good riddanced by others. And miss all. Stay and rightfully be groaned at, thought worse of, if that were possible, by some but accepted, wanted by others in the team despite my... abrasive ways with many of them. And those that mind DO matter. Sigh. Well I'm hanging by a thread anyway. The trouble is, I agree with JB2 on Jesus' fulfilling the ur-PSA narrative. So... second thoughts guys?
I actually felt acutely depressed yesterday. Couldn't stop weeping. A lot going on. Going down. Straw and camel's back this. But not woe unto me maxima woe this time. All better now: back to manic. And I still regret disrespecting people's sense of community, regardless.
If that embarrassing, nauseating melange doesn't get universal revulsion what do I have to do?
You need to freaking repent. Which does NOT involve making a show of oneself. Go find a mature Christian you trust in real life and show them this thread and tell them all your troubles. Then do what they say. And ask them to keep you on a VERY short leash as you relearn how to behave.
I say this as a fellow sinner, and only because you asked.
Please don't make me regret breaking radio silence with you.
Go and be missed by a few and good riddanced by others. And miss all. Stay and rightfully be groaned at, thought worse of, if that were possible, by some but accepted, wanted by others in the team despite my... abrasive ways with many of them. And those that mind DO matter. Sigh. Well I'm hanging by a thread anyway. The trouble is, I agree with JB2 on Jesus' fulfilling the ur-PSA narrative. So... second thoughts guys?
I actually felt acutely depressed yesterday. Couldn't stop weeping. A lot going on. Going down. Straw and camel's back this. But not woe unto me maxima woe this time. All better now: back to manic. And I still regret disrespecting people's sense of community, regardless.
If that embarrassing, nauseating melange doesn't get universal revulsion what do I have to do?
Sounds like a good description of a lot of us. Why not just hang on and see what happens?
Go and be missed by a few and good riddanced by others. And miss all. Stay and rightfully be groaned at, thought worse of, if that were possible, by some but accepted, wanted by others in the team despite my... abrasive ways with many of them. And those that mind DO matter. Sigh. Well I'm hanging by a thread anyway. The trouble is, I agree with JB2 on Jesus' fulfilling the ur-PSA narrative. So... second thoughts guys?
I actually felt acutely depressed yesterday. Couldn't stop weeping. A lot going on. Going down. Straw and camel's back this. But not woe unto me maxima woe this time. All better now: back to manic. And I still regret disrespecting people's sense of community, regardless.
If that embarrassing, nauseating melange doesn't get universal revulsion what do I have to do?
Well, @Martin54 I may not have the same multi-experience years long escapade as others on the ship, but I think I stand by my estimation of you as a loveable crank. I have no idea what you’re saying most of the time, but I feel the same way about a guy I drink with at the local pub. Where’d we be without the cranks spouting Nietzschean aphorisms into the void?
You need to freaking repent. Which does NOT involve making a show of oneself. Go find a mature Christian you trust in real life and show them this thread and tell them all your troubles. Then do what they say. And ask them to keep you on a VERY short leash as you relearn how to behave.
I say this as a fellow sinner, and only because you asked.
Please don't make me regret breaking radio silence with you.
Thank you. I don't know any. Seriously. And I have tried. Repeatedly. Up to recently. Every end is dead.
Martin you and I have our differences but it takes all kinds to make the Ship work well. I too suffered with the old black dog over the last couple of days
Well, apparently Martin still seems to think he is all-knowing and can speak for everyone, as he has announced that the idea that Gethsemane was necessary to reconcile God to humanity "doesn't work in any coherent way for... anyone now." (Ellipses his.)
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However, I'm pleased to see that certain Purgatory threads, consisting mostly of walls of text tl/dr, are occasionally enlivened, nay, illuminated, by pungent comments from Martin...
Well, thanks Martin.
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and all that. If your apologies really are sincere and unconditional, then show a modicum of self-control and stop doing the things you say you’re sorry for.
What I'm sorry for in this instance is having absurd expectations about Christianity and fellow Christians, including their sense of community and finally realised that in my dotage. I wouldn't dream of challenging that in my evangelical Anglican fellowshipping. And it can't be done in Purgatory either.
Yes - bit of a quid pro quo, I think!
And to the point? Well, sometimes, but YMMV.
I can relate.
Yes. The last lurch of the emotional roller coaster: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Then the circuit begins again. And the enablers are right there to keep it going.
It's that last bit that -- the enabling-- that irks me, as a reader genuinely interested in these discussions, the most.
Sorry if it irks you, but, as an occasional Enabler™, I do it because, IMHO, Martin may have come up with something worth considering (even if only for a moment!).
I know he can be as Obscure as the Obscurest Thing ever propounded by the Professor of Obscurity at Obscuretown University, but...
YMMV, of course, and I appreciate that.
His wit is certainly an improvement on Martin's, and he could at least function despite breakfasting on a magnum of champagne, which was my main point.
Yes so can I but you and I don't seem to be playing that out on others on line.
50 short posts are as bad as one Gamaliel post.
Indeed. It's "both; and" not "either; or".
Exactly as Gamaliel himself might say.
He won’t leave, it’s a flounce.
Plus - ITTWACW
Jumping Ship is Forbidden.
We Forbid It.
Those of us who are fed up with being lectured by Walls of Text forbid it.
You’re our only hope, Martin!
Hmmmmmm.
I'm going to be less effusive. Unless you actually want to contribute meaningfully to discussion, please feel free.
Don't leave, ExclamationMark. It changes nothing. You can go a thousand online fora away but you can never escape the Ship of Fools forum within your soul.
That's The Joke /mcbain
I actually felt acutely depressed yesterday. Couldn't stop weeping. A lot going on. Going down. Straw and camel's back this. But not woe unto me maxima woe this time. All better now: back to manic. And I still regret disrespecting people's sense of community, regardless.
If that embarrassing, nauseating melange doesn't get universal revulsion what do I have to do?
Peace be with you!
I say this as a fellow sinner, and only because you asked.
Please don't make me regret breaking radio silence with you.
Sounds like a good description of a lot of us. Why not just hang on and see what happens?
Well, @Martin54 I may not have the same multi-experience years long escapade as others on the ship, but I think I stand by my estimation of you as a loveable crank. I have no idea what you’re saying most of the time, but I feel the same way about a guy I drink with at the local pub. Where’d we be without the cranks spouting Nietzschean aphorisms into the void?
Less bored?
As I always want to be fair, eventually, I see what you mean. My apologies.
Thank you. I don't know any. Seriously. And I have tried. Repeatedly. Up to recently. Every end is dead.