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  • Prolonging this rather daft tangent, here's an article about Kexit in our local press:
    https://kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/welcome-to-the-republic-of-kent-234343/

    I rather like the flag...no doubt it'll soon be on sale in local emporia...
  • I do so hope that you yourself are not one of those dastardly *Kentish Men * (ha!), blackguards one and all...
    :angry:

    Nah. I'm the descendant of wurzels, taffies and yellow bellies.
  • That flag is a bit fascist in colour, isn't it? What's wrong with the horse?
    I have been running through the locations of the existing crossing points. There's some rough ground off the A2 at Crayford, but proabably not enough. That does have the advantage of a pre-existing wall along the hill to the east of the river Cray built either to keep the Jutes out of London, or the Romano-Brits of London out of Kent.
    There's only a McDonald's service station on the A20, but I suppose they could use Clacket Lane on the M25. It just pushes the problem further back.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    Well, this is interesting, but although my ancestry is mostly British (lots of West Country, a good bit of Midlands, some northern England, lots of Scots, a good chunk of Welsh), I doubt I have enough Kentish to qualify as a citizen there. Dang!
  • At the risk of creating an unhelpful tangent but bear with me...

    I was noticing yesterday how this thread basically oscillates between being a Brexit thread and being a Covid thread. (As do several others).

    Of course, the common thread in Johnson. How he and his government have, by a mixture of hubris, arrogance, ideology, lack of attention to detail, incompetence, recklessness and lack of accountability, totally mismanaged both situations leading to long-term damage to the country and unnecessary suffering for the British people.

    Worst British PM of all time? Quite possibly.
    Worst PM of my lifetime? Without a doubt.

    Boris: Fuck right off and let a grown-up fix the messes you've created. (That's what patriotism looks like).

    AFZ
  • I’ve never even been to Kent, apart from driving through - so no chance for me. Please take pity and send food parcels!

    Today is Zoom Pilates, which I never look forward to but always really enjoy. 🙂

    We are on lasagne made with home-made pasta for tea, which Mr Boogs always makes very delicious. The accompanying salad has been grown by meeeee! :mrgreen:

  • Boogie wrote: »
    I’ve never even been to Kent, apart from driving through - so no chance for me. Please take pity and send food parcels!

    Ha! You won't even be allowed to drive through , unless you have your Kermit (Kent Access Permit...)

    But, as the obviously non-Kentish @alienfromzog rightly says, all this actual and future Mess is down to the Lord Protector III (the Fat Scarecrow) and his puppetmaster Condom the Farsighted (the Thin Scarecrow).

    They will surely go down in history (should there be any) as the worst Prime Ministers ever. May that descent into history be not long delayed.

  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    edited September 2020
    Boris: Fuck right off and let a grown-up fix the messes you've created. (That's what patriotism looks like).

    There's obviously personal culpability here; but this is also a symptom of ruling after ten years of running down the state, when one's ideology prefers centralisation and outsourcing over localisation and government provision (the problem with Thatcherism is that sooner or later you've sold off so many bits of the state that you struggle to pull together a coherent response to any crisis)
  • Good point. Thatcherism has a lot to answer for...
    :angry:
  • And, of course, you need to pay someone else (your friends, possibly) to do the puilling together.
  • I read this today -
    Johnson’s personal position is a mess of insecurity and prevarication. His instincts are with the libertarians. If he were not imposing the restrictions he would be writing newspaper columns complaining about them.

    Very true.
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    edited September 2020
    I'm going to face a problem, Kentwise. I have lived in Kent since I was seven, except when I was at college in Essex, paid for by Kent, worked for Kent every year since then. But I was born in Sussex, and my Sussex roots point out that Kent's proud claim to the motto Invicta is because they surrendered to William as he was about to leave the county after marching through it like Sherman. They weren't beaten, oh no.
    OTOH, my Sussex "Wunt be Druv" strand puts me on the side of Kent in wanting independence from the idiocracy.
    The problems of ancient allegiances.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    What would Æthelwealh do?
  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    edited September 2020
    Sneaky lot back then, weren't they? Interesting that the Jutish parts west of Sussex were in the gift of Mercia as a unit, separate from Kent. It's like reading about a bunch of chimps building territories.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Æthelwealh_of_Sussex
  • Boogie wrote: »
    I read this today -
    Johnson’s personal position is a mess of insecurity and prevarication. His instincts are with the libertarians. If he were not imposing the restrictions he would be writing newspaper columns complaining about them.

    Very true.

    Leaning on orientalist tropes, the Spectator have decided that his failings (which in their eyes are his inability to be sufficiently libertarian) are down to his Turkish roots.
  • TURKISH??
    :scream:

    Then he's a bloody Johnny Foreigner! How come he's our Lord Protector?

    To the Tower with him - immediately!
    :naughty:
  • Boogie wrote: »
    I read this today -
    Johnson’s personal position is a mess of insecurity and prevarication. His instincts are with the libertarians. If he were not imposing the restrictions he would be writing newspaper columns complaining about them.

    Very true.

    Leaning on orientalist tropes, the Spectator have decided that his failings (which in their eyes are his inability to be sufficiently libertarian) are down to his Turkish roots.

    Oh FFS - and yet they also have the founder of the Proud Boys writing for them, strange that
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    TURKISH??
    :scream:

    Then he's a bloody Johnny Foreigner! How come he's our Lord Protector?

    To the Tower with him - immediately!
    Orf wiv 'is 'ead!

  • Seemingly unable to learn from the success of 'Eat out to help out' in increasing cases of the virus, Johnson is now being decidedly bullish on cinemas:
    On Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson urged people to return to cinemas. He said would "encourage people to go out to the cinema, enjoy themselves and support" movie theatres.


  • Ah yes - a Good Wheeze, were it not for the fact that my local Cineworld cinema is closed, and likely to remain so...

    Still, I expect the Lord Protector will think of some other plague-ridden *place of entertainment* to which he could send me.
  • What does he thinks that people are going to watch given that all the big releases have been pushed back, either in publication date (like the new Bond movie), or in their filming schedule (like at least one new Marvel film)?

    And who will want to go and sit in a face mask for fun for 2 hours?
  • I thought the cinemas should have linked up with the live performers who can’t have an audience, theatres, comedy gigs, concerts etc and stream them on the cinema screens instead - and then split the proceeds.
  • You'll probably get a better view in a cinema, with the performer super-sized on the big screen compared to someone on a stage so far away you need binoculars to see them.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    I thought cinemas were showing classic films you may have missed first time around in the cinema.
    Boris is obviously trying to get the economy moving but the more people who are I’ll, the less they spend on things,
  • Hugal wrote: »
    I thought cinemas were showing classic films you may have missed first time around in the cinema.
    Boris is obviously trying to get the economy moving but the more people who are I’ll, the less they spend on things,

    Given his recent comments on the previous scheme to help restaurants he must assume that the collective memory of the UK is about a week.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Hugal wrote: »
    I thought cinemas were showing classic films you may have missed first time around in the cinema.
    Boris is obviously trying to get the economy moving but the more people who are I’ll, the less they spend on things,

    Given his recent comments on the previous scheme to help restaurants he must assume that the collective memory of the UK is about a week.

    Given the results of the last general election, he may well be right in that assessment.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    With an 80% advantage in Parliament does it matter what he does.
  • 80%?
  • Well, not quite - 80 seats, which is a large enough majority for @Hugal's point to be valid...
    :disappointed:
  • It is only a valid point if you are thinking in terms of politics. It does matter what the PM does and says in terms of the health and well-being of the people of these islands, whatever the level of numerical support.
  • Yes, that is so.
  • As my main source of news from the Old Country is The News Quiz, I have just discovered the spreadsheet disaster. I am appalled. Johnson and Co are seriously in danger of looking as incompetent as Trump, if not quite as malicious.

    Like Mister Collins in P&P, I feel it is my duty as a clergyman to condole with you all. (IANAC)
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    As my main source of news from the Old Country is The News Quiz, I have just discovered the spreadsheet disaster. I am appalled. Johnson and Co are seriously in danger of looking as incompetent as Trump, if not quite as malicious.

    Like Mister Collins in P&P, I feel it is my duty as a clergyman to condole with you all. (IANAC)

    Unfortunately I don’t know anyone who was surprised. Annoyed that these idiots can be in government, but not surprised
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited October 2020
    I had a Spiteful Thought this morning, on learning that part of the Brexshit lunacy is likely to be the provision of numerous Portaloos along our Kent motorways, delayed lorry-drivers for the relief of.

    They are becoming known as [Blue Brexshit] Boris Bog Boxes, and it occurred to me that a suitable loo brush would have a realistic representation of Boris' head and hair as the business end, attached to a long handle.

    Redundant baristas and ballerinas will no doubt be retrained as Bog Box Cleaning Operatives, as it'll be hard to keep the Boxes Covid-19 free.

    OTOH, the lorry-drivers may not wish to pay the rumoured £5 fee to use the Boxes, so they'll probably continue to p**s and s**t on the grass alongside the road, or against someone else's lorry, or behind a bush etc. etc., as at present.

    O my poor county! What with the Boris Border Wall, and the Boris Bog Boxes, not to mention the numerous Boris Brexshit Lorry Dumps Parks, what's left of our landscape will not last long...
  • They are becoming known as [Blue Brexshit] Boris Bog Boxes, and it occurred to me that a suitable loo brush would have a realistic representation of Boris' head and hair as the business end, attached to a long handle.
    Your wish ...

  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited October 2020
    Thanks @Alan Cresswell !

    I had a sneaky feeling that someone might have thought of this Spiffing Wheeze already...so I've now added one to my eBay basket, as they're only a fiver each...
    :wink:
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I take it the contract for providing the aforementioned conveniences will go to Serco ...
  • ...who will no doubt provide each Comfort Station with a builder's bucket, and a flimsy shower screen, at the bargain price of £5000 per Station.
    :grimace:
  • We still have the Public Accounts Comittee who can inspect poor use of public money and poor decision-making which results in waste.
  • Well, perhaps it's time that Committee sprang into action! Doormatt Hancock - watch out...
  • ION, our Blessed Lord Protector is warning us to be ready for a No-Deal Brexshit.

    Who would have thought it?

    Piss Be Upon Him...
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    This is what he and his horrible chums have been setting everything up to do all along, but to persuade themselves and try to persuade the rest of us that it's the EU's fault. It's what they all want and have wanted all along.

    The only words that are capable of describing them are ones that as Christians we aren't supposed to use and are also uncharitable.
  • Well, yes - England is clearly doomed, but there may be a glimmer of hope for those in the Celtic fringe, as they may now have the chance to break away from Brexshit Boorish and his Gang of Gobshites...

    Those of us stuck in *England* will just have to stock up as much in the way of essentials as we can, as quickly as we can.
  • Well, yes - England is clearly doomed, but there may be a glimmer of hope for those in the Celtic fringe, as they may now have the chance to break away from Brexshit Boorish and his Gang of Gobshites...

    Those of us stuck in *England* will just have to stock up as much in the way of essentials as we can, as quickly as we can.

    We in the Celtic fringes have also Brexshitted (can you say Brexshat?) in the same way as England - the whole UK had to come out. If those of you stuck in England need to stock up on essentials, equally so do those on the Celtic fringe. Independence may at some point happen, but we would still have Brexshat and would be standing outside chapping at the door to be allowed back in...
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited October 2020
    Agreed - but at least you have a small chance of breaking away from the lunatic asylum south (or east) of the Border, and, eventually, of rejoining the rest of the civilised world...

    *England*, alas, is stuck with the Gang of Gobshites until Doomsday AFAICS.

    Meanwhile, stock up...

    (Yes, after 1 January, we will have Brexshat...)
  • Our mini-Churchill now has his war with Europe, and has conscripted the rest of us to join his army. He seems to expect us to show patriotic enthusiasm, but may be disappointed.
  • We still have the Public Accounts Comittee who can inspect poor use of public money and poor decision-making which results in waste.

    At this point the normal procurement process is not being used for the vast majority of contracts, so I'm not sure to what extent the PAC gets involved in 'exceptional' procurement such as this.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    Eirenist wrote: »
    Our mini-Churchill now has his war with Europe, and has conscripted the rest of us to join his army. He seems to expect us to show patriotic enthusiasm, but may be disappointed.

    So long as he can concentrate on his fans, he can ignore anyone else. He will take their enthusiasm to represent everyone.
  • Once his *fans* find they've no loo rolls (even with his face on the sheets), or medication, or other essentials, they may not be so enthusiastic.

    It'll be too late then, of course, as the Deed will have been Done.
    :rage:
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Boris is now preparing to fail to make a deal which is one of the easiest in human history.
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