Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

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  • Does he appeal to anyone?
  • Hugal wrote: »
    Does he appeal to anyone?
    Carrie Symonds and Jennifer Arcuri, presumably.
  • https://www.joe.co.uk/news/boris-johnsons-prorogation-of-parliament-ruled-unlawful-by-supreme-court-239839

    Just down the page is a video entitled "I fought the law, and the law won"

    I strongly recommend it to everyone. Enjoy.

    AFZ
  • Brilliant, thanks.
  • I see the inter-cabinet knifing has begun
  • Meanwhile, Potus Blump has affirmed that Piffleglum 'isn't going anywhere', to which Piffleglum replied 'No, no, no....'.

    I take it that this means Piffleglum is staying in America, which is Bad News for the good people of that unfortunate country.

    Given that Potus Blump is God's Chosen One, we must assume that this is correct.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I doubt that they'd find him particularly appealing ... :mrgreen:
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Friend passed on good comment re Lady Hale, Gina Miller and Joanna Cherry - starring in Revenge of the Girly Swots
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    When I looked at the news last night, it brought that photo straight up of Trump and Boris grinning at the camera together.

    Funny the difference a day makes.
  • And both man-spreading - ugh!
  • One found to have acted unlawfully, the other facing an impeachment process. Two lying, cheating, self-serving, misogynistic, loathsome peas in a pod.
  • One mp at least, is calling for an attempt to try to revive the impeachment process for Boris Johnson, but I doubt that will happen.
  • Impeachment sounds American rather than British. Do we do it on this side of the Pond?
  • Impeachment sounds American rather than British. Do we do it on this side of the Pond?

    Sort of.

    Intriguingly, the framers of the US constitution imported the concept from the UK Parliament. The following is my understanding and might be wrong but: I think the power for Parliament to impeach a judge still exists. The power to impeach a minister or even Prime Minister is considered archaic and probably no longer existing in any real, practical sense.

    Right, I'm gonna go look up Impeachment in English Law (I think it's English rather than British but....)

    AFZ
  • alienfromzogalienfromzog Shipmate
    edited September 2019
    Impeaching a minister: From the House of Commons Library...

    Removal of judges is a different procedure and probably the word 'impeachment' is not helpful here - my bad - from the Judiciary website...

    AFZ
  • Impeachment sounds American rather than British. Do we do it on this side of the Pond?

    The powers still exist in the UK but other remedies are preferred. The last attempt was in 2004 against Blair for the Iraq War. Wiki has a nice write-up.
  • Yeah, but, nobody thought humble address was a thing until about five minutes ago. So it wouldn’t surprise me if it got resurrected in this situation.
  • The Wiki article refers to impeachment as having 'effectively died with the advent of full responsible Parliamentary government'.

    What is this thing called 'full responsible Parliamentary government', of which the article speaks?
  • As the last impeachment was over 200 years ago and was unsuccessful, I think it can be safely assumed the process is nearly as obsolete as an Act of Attainder. The normal actions would be criminal prosecution in the courts for something that had been an offence or the appropriate civil action for judicial review, damages, an injunction etc. etc. Prominent politicians are not immune from either prosecution or being sued, though they do have still, I think, a limited immunity from being arrested and committed for debt while Parliament is actually sitting.

    Impeachment would only likely to be countenanced in a circumstance where there was no other remedy, or, possibly, where the person being impeached had control over the availability of the normal remedy. Yesterday's decision has just been a welcome reduction in the scope for such an argument.
  • TubbsTubbs Admin
    edited September 2019
    The Wiki article refers to impeachment as having 'effectively died with the advent of full responsible Parliamentary government'.

    What is this thing called 'full responsible Parliamentary government', of which the article speaks?

    Based on tonight’s showing, fuck knows. Utterly shameful
  • That "humbug" comment should go down in infamy.
  • Eutychus wrote: »
    That "humbug" comment should go down in infamy.

    Yet another thing he’ll be claiming he didn’t say.
  • The man has shown the how bad he is.
  • Hugal wrote: »
    The man has shown the how bad he is.

    The man in beginning to show how bad he is.

  • I cannot get over Johnson claiming that the best way to honour Jo Cox’s memory would be to deliver Brexit- in response to a request from the MP who now represents Cox’s constituency that he be careful with his rhetoric.
    I mean. Fucking hell.
  • On Breakfast this morning, Brendan Cox was not amused.
  • I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.
  • I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.

    Precisely this. Everything Boris says and does is an election strategy.

    AFZ
  • I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.

    Precisely this. Everything Boris says and does is an election strategy.

    AFZ

    "How can I seduce the country?"
  • sionisais wrote: »
    I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.

    Precisely this. Everything Boris says and does is an election strategy.

    AFZ

    "How can I seduce the country?"

    If my date behaved like that, I'd make my excuses and leave early. By any means necessary.
  • Bring on the election. People of Uxbridge, students of Brunel arise!
  • la vie en rougela vie en rouge Circus Host, 8th Day Host
    Tubbs wrote: »
    sionisais wrote: »
    I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.

    Precisely this. Everything Boris says and does is an election strategy.

    AFZ

    "How can I seduce the country?"

    If my date behaved like that, I'd make my excuses and leave early. By any means necessary.

    Indeed. Given that, unlike Trump, there’s never been any suggestion that Boris’ various sex scandals were anything other than consensual, one of the great mysteries of the man AFAIC is how the **** he gets anyone to go bed with him.
  • I think his choices of words is calculated to inflame, induce outrage and so encourage those who support him. If he gets re-elected then shame on our country.
  • Tubbs wrote: »
    sionisais wrote: »
    I guess this is calculated, some kind of plan to win elections, by showing how nasty and tough I am, and I can get Brexit through, despite the moaning minnies. I must admit I was shocked by his performance last night.

    Precisely this. Everything Boris says and does is an election strategy.

    AFZ

    "How can I seduce the country?"

    If my date behaved like that, I'd make my excuses and leave early. By any means necessary.

    Indeed. Given that, unlike Trump, there’s never been any suggestion that Boris’ various sex scandals were anything other than consensual, one of the great mysteries of the man AFAIC is how the **** he gets anyone to go bed with him.

    He has money and he is charming, in that one-to-one, over a candlelit dinner way. The old-fashioned phrase was "NSIT - not safe in taxis" and I don't think Boris is a safe bet anywhere. While Trump is a thug, Boris is more subtle, but he is a lousy role model for men although he could be a useful lesson for women.
  • A friend of mine regularly posts on Facebook, "I'm 100% behind Boris!". When I asked her why, she replied, "I think he's gorgeous". Beauty really is in the eyes of the beholder.
  • A friend of mine regularly posts on Facebook, "I'm 100% behind Boris!". When I asked her why, she replied, "I think he's gorgeous". Beauty really is in the eyes of the beholder.

    And there we are: on a very low (but undersstandable level) some men want to be like Boris and some women want Boris.
  • It's fascinating - albeit horrifying - to watch this odious man sink lower into the dungheap each day.
    :scream:
  • Given the billions that Piffle's backers expect to make from shorting the economy in a no-deal Brexit at Halloween, it follows that if that doesn't happen then they will be faced with an equally mind-blowing loss. No wonder he's turned up the vile rhetoric in an attempt to stampede the opposition into granting him a General Election - he knows that if no-deal doesn't happen on cue, then his wealthy backers are not going to be very happy with him.

    I wonder how they'll show their displeasure? Whatever happens, it won't be pretty.

  • Even his own sister has now spoken out against him today on this.
  • I hear he flounced out of the Commons today. Can this be true? If yes, has a PM ever done so before?
  • More tellingly, Rachel Johnson mused that her brother's sudden conversion to the hardest of Brexits on 31st October might have something to do with the millions wagered on the pound falling through the floor.

    Hopefully that will filter down to the Brextremists.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    More tellingly, Rachel Johnson mused that her brother's sudden conversion to the hardest of Brexits on 31st October might have something to do with the millions wagered on the pound falling through the floor.

    Hopefully that will filter down to the Brextremists.
    .

    Doubt it. We’re in Brexit at any price territory now. It’s not just Boris’ profits that will be hurt but his ego. His sense of entitlement must be visible from space ...
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2019
    I hear he flounced out of the Commons today. Can this be true? If yes, has a PM ever done so before?

    Not a proper flounce, but he seems to have left rather abruptly, after some words with Mr Speaker...

    I daresay such things have happened before, given the kindergarten behaviour of some MPs, though not perhaps on the part of Prime Ministers.

  • Tubbs wrote: »
    Doc Tor wrote: »
    More tellingly, Rachel Johnson mused that her brother's sudden conversion to the hardest of Brexits on 31st October might have something to do with the millions wagered on the pound falling through the floor.

    Hopefully that will filter down to the Brextremists.
    .

    Doubt it. We’re in Brexit at any price territory now.

    Or in the case of a few Tories I know, they'll put up with Brexit and the MBGA tendencies as long as they don't lose power.
  • I always knew that Piffle was going to be vile, but I'm still surprised at how quickly he's signed up to Sir Roderick Spode's Black Shorts.
  • I hear he flounced out of the Commons today. Can this be true? If yes, has a PM ever done so before?

    Not a proper flounce, but he seems to have left rather abruptly, after some words with Mr Speaker...

    I daresay such things have happened before, given the kindergarten behaviour of some MPs, though not perhaps on the part of Prime Ministers.

    So Boorish can’t even get a flounce right.
  • It seems to me to be bad manners for any MP to ignore the Speaker like that. For the PM to do so is extraordinary.
  • Much as it does violence to my soul, ... to be fair to BJ ... he had been awake for 24hrs and and answering questions for 3hrs.
  • No sympathy for him. He should have thought about the consequences before he tried to prorogue Parliament.
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I see the Scottish Court of Session is looking hard at writing his letter to the EU for him , under the power of nobile officium
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