I think there are some churches, maybe this is one, which are afraid to find out that we CAN live without the sacraments but that when we take them away there is nothing left to show we are people of faith. Jesus didn't say "Go and do sacraments and do them on a daily/weekly/ monthly or whatever basis." He said "Follow me." I don't see that he went around sacramentalising.
Maybe we could just send our visible enemies back to where they belong?
I could name them, but you know who I mean - our Evil Alien Overlords, trying unsuccessfully to look like Humming Beans. They never get the hair right.
Once they're gone, maybe Gaia will relent, and cause the plague to subside...
Here, there is a run on those little communion cups that are preloaded with a host and juice inside. Lamb Chopped, I'd report that congregation to the authorities if I were you. That's not allowed.
Here, there is a run on those little communion cups that are preloaded with a host and juice inside. Lamb Chopped, I'd report that congregation to the authorities if I were you. That's not allowed.
That's just the problem. Here, there are no authorities.* Which is why the U.S. is doing such a piss-poor job of containing this pandemic.
[the rant that follows has nothing to do with you, Lily Pad, it's just my mega-frustrations bursting out]
* Okay, let me back off from this a bit. The truth is, our senior authorities have all decided to take a brain vacation (assuming they ever had brains to start with) and that leaves the local authorities to figure out a) what they should be doing, b) what WE should be doing, c) what THEY should do about US when we're not doing what we ought, and d) how to enforce all this. Which is a sucky hard job when you weren't trained to it, and the people who ought to have all this figured out and ready to go have abdicated responsibility.
So basically, I could (in theory) wait till they depart the church premises, chalice in hand, and then phone up the local police ("Follow that chalice!") to arrest them... Oh wait, that's assuming that the local police are the ones who are charged with enforcing this... hmmmm.... okay, that also assumes that I have some means of watching the church door that doesn't involve me, myself, doing non-essential travel... double hmmmmmm.... and then there's response time, plus the fact that I don't know the address they're going to....
If I try a pre-emptive strike ("Teacher, Billy's planning something awful!"), I still face the question of "who the hell do I report this to?" plus the fact that nothing has actually happened yet, and the police in the city don't stir for less than a person bleeding out in the street. That's in normal times, much less during quarantine.
Our denominational officials are no help. They offer lofty words about hope and faith in hard times, and leave the individual congregations to make their own practical decisions. To be fair, decision-making power in the LCMS has resided with local congregations from forever, so there's really nothing they could do but scold. And they're all working from home as well, and overwhelmed...
Well meaning but clueless. I don't know about where you are, but here we are on a 4 week lockdown and despite information on all the media and a poster delivered to every letter box some people seem to think they're virus proof. I seriously think it may take have the army in the streets for it to register - which is a possibility here (or at least them working with the police.)
Yes, I think those who feel immune to the virus have no idea how much they incense anyone with half a brain.
Actually forget the half-a-brain criteria.....we saw some footage on television last night of a packed church in Moscow. One woman there was briefly interviewed. She said words to the effect "No-one can catch the virus in a church", and then we were informed that she was a doctor!"
Yes, I think those who feel immune to the virus have no idea how much they incense anyone with half a brain.
Actually forget the half-a-brain criteria.....we saw some footage on television last night of a packed church in Moscow. One woman there was briefly interviewed. She said words to the effect "No-one can catch the virus in a church", and then we were informed that she was a doctor!"
Rats, Rats. Rats. I went to church today to do a sermon for live feed. Church is closed. Only people that should have been there were the Camera operator, the Pastor and me.
I was in the front row with my back to the door. When I got up to go preach I noticed a man and a women sitting in the very back of the church. No biggie they were not sitting near each other. I knew the man, he is a member and often does maintenance around the building. I never saw the women before. At the end of the service she rushes up to the pastor who seems to have known her and says, "fist bump," so they come together and bump fists and I start to leave. The man and I nod to each other from a distance. The women comes up behind me grabs me by the shoulder and says, "fist bump," and taps me on the elbow before I could get away. 6 feet people 6 feet. Stay home people, stay home.
There are no known cases in my county never the less, I felt very invaded. I am 81 and although old really not ready to die, because some people are to dumb to follow directions.
In Australia our Prime Minister advises all persons over 70 to stay home and not to venture out unless accompanied by a "support person". I'm 2 months away from my 80th birthday and I find this both extreme and insulting.
Rats, Rats. Rats. I went to church today to do a sermon for live feed. Church is closed. Only people that should have been there were the Camera operator, the Pastor and me.
I was in the front row with my back to the door. When I got up to go preach I noticed a man and a women sitting in the very back of the church. No biggie they were not sitting near each other. I knew the man, he is a member and often does maintenance around the building. I never saw the women before. At the end of the service she rushes up to the pastor who seems to have known her and says, "fist bump," so they come together and bump fists and I start to leave. The man and I nod to each other from a distance. The women comes up behind me grabs me by the shoulder and says, "fist bump," and taps me on the elbow before I could get away. 6 feet people 6 feet. Stay home people, stay home.
There are no known cases in my county never the less, I felt very invaded. I am 81 and although old really not ready to die, because some people are to dumb to follow directions.
Ditto what LC said. Also grounds for yelling at the woman, And if she should try it again with some kind of authority around, try to get the authority's attention,
Or a bunch of appropriately-distant Shipmates could accompany you with clue bats...or raid the Gator's stash of rusty farm implements...
(I'm in a bad mood. Might as well use it.)
I may try to go to a proper grocery tomorrow. Need fresh veggies. Too many TV dinners. But I'm not sure if I can make it out early enough for the "disabled and seniors hour"; and I don't know if I can cope with possible crowds later.
I usually get most of my groceries delivered by a supermarket, but they're totally booked for at least this week. There are a couple of other services (e,g,, Insta-cart) that I might use, but they're probably booked up Hmmm...If i do a click & pick option, they wouldn't have to do the shopping...Well, I'll try a trip on my own, and figure it out from there.
It must be very hard for some people - learning difficulties/mental health issues/autism etc. - to cope with what's happening. The situation seems to change by the day, so it's hard enough for ANYONE to keep up!
If OTOH it was just deliberate fu*kwittery (a la Trump)...
Our washing machine. The power button has decided to pack up today, so I can't do washing and we have to try and get a new one put in and the old one removed in the current circumstances.
Today I consign my own clumsiness to hell. Two sharp knives washed yesterday; two knuckles left bleeding. Still tending to reopen when moving fingers. Gah.
Actually it turned out I had accidentally unplugged it!! So crisis averted for now.
Owing to a lack of sockets in the kitchen, if I want to use the food processor, like yesterday, I have to take another plug out. Normally I use the toaster socket, but for some odd reason I unplugged the washing machine instead.
I only twigged when I realised the power light was still flashing on the food processor, and I knew the toaster worked, as we'd had toast this morning.
I failed at that and have got a handwashing regime in place for the duration with a friend doing the occasional big wash.
The most I could get was a washing machine delivered. It was not being prepared to take away the old one that was the decider for me.
The problem seems to be that many local authorities have closed their amenity tips, not just to the general public but to businesses because domestic and commercial waste/recycling tends to be handled on the same site.
I wonder if she was learning impaired in some way. What you describe sounds like very odd behavior.
She did not appear to be by her conversation with the pastor, but perhaps you are right. I would feel much better about what happened if that was the case. I have calmed down and let go of the whole thing now, life goes on. As an added note just found out the Pastor thinks because she has a flu shot and a pneumonia booster she will not get this virus. I give up. I am staying home.
@Golden Key, are there any organic delivery boxes you can sign up for in your area? I get one twice a month and they are very reasonable. They even do eggs and almond milk. You can also do sprouts if you have dry beans, or seeds. Easy and gives you some fresh greens.
I also plant the ends of celery and spring onions in my window flower pots and use the growth in salads and soups. Parsley seeds also do well in a flower pot in the kitchen window.
Marks and Spencer's website. It has taken an hour to order a fruit basket to be delivered to my parents. The first attempt reset the address so that I found I had ordered a basket to be sent to my own address. I cancelled. Second attempt failed. Third attempt again reset the address to my home address. I cancelled. Fourth attempt reset the address, but I caught it and typed in Mum's address for the fifth time. I've also entered my card details four times, which I'm not thrilled about.
Plus the first available delivery slot is 15 April, but I can understand that.
A tip from a fellow hand washing clothes person for the duration. Washing is not too bad, a bit tedious but essentially straight forward. For small loads, a Scrubba wash bag saves your hands while washing (but you still get them wet while rinsing) and is quite effective. What I do find difficult is wringing out so the clothes are dry enough not to drip anywhere. The solution for me is to wrap everything in towels, preferably microfibre towels, and then wring.
What I do find difficult is wringing out so the clothes are dry enough not to drip anywhere. The solution for me is to wrap everything in towels, preferably microfibre towels, and then wring.
That's what I do when doing hand wash in a hotel room.
Me too but I don't wring them. I roll the wet item up in the towel and then stand on it and march/shuffle up and down the length of the roll. I hope this helps!
You do, but they dry. It is an especially good way to wash a few things out when staying at a hotel and when you know that they wouldn't dry by themselves before morning. In that case, the towels are going to be changed out anyway.
ICTH the anti-social bu**ers who've dumped multiple split and leaking black sacks of rubbish in my skip, depositing a fair amount of rotten food scraps all over the grass.
Our (oil) boiler, which has chosen today not to light. Normally this means that Mr. S has to go out to the far end of the house, unlock the casing and press the reset button - but today the reset button has not popped out.
Since in the summer we couldn't find an engineer to come and service the wretched thing, heaven only knows what will happen now
People who have long phone conversations after you have been invited to visit them. It makes my blood boil. I now pluck up courage to gently say something along the lines that I find it disrespectful. It is a phenomenon that has happened since the arrival of mobile phones - I don't remember it occurring with landlines.
I used to dry small items, such as underwear, in a motel room by wrapping a towel around it and sitting on it for a half hour. I then hung them up in the bathroom. They were com
People who have long phone conversations after you have been invited to visit them. It makes my blood boil. I now pluck up courage to gently say something along the lines that I find it disrespectful. It is a phenomenon that has happened since the arrival of mobile phones - I don't remember it occurring with landlines.
Also people who have long and loud mobile or Skype conversations in their back gardens when you just want to sit out and enjoy the sunshine. (Yes, new neighbours, I'm looking at you!)
I was sitting in the community centre café talking to Father F***wit one morning when his mobile rang. Without a word of apology, he answered the call (it was Lovely Wife), leaving me in mid-sentence.
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I would like to see a real resistance movement, as in olden times, even though the enemy seems invisible, like suggested by moi here!
I could name them, but you know who I mean - our Evil Alien Overlords, trying unsuccessfully to look like Humming Beans. They never get the hair right.
Once they're gone, maybe Gaia will relent, and cause the plague to subside...
Maybe we should go back to ancient tradition, and have a Wicker Man?
That's just the problem. Here, there are no authorities.* Which is why the U.S. is doing such a piss-poor job of containing this pandemic.
[the rant that follows has nothing to do with you, Lily Pad, it's just my mega-frustrations bursting out]
* Okay, let me back off from this a bit. The truth is, our senior authorities have all decided to take a brain vacation (assuming they ever had brains to start with) and that leaves the local authorities to figure out a) what they should be doing, b) what WE should be doing, c) what THEY should do about US when we're not doing what we ought, and d) how to enforce all this. Which is a sucky hard job when you weren't trained to it, and the people who ought to have all this figured out and ready to go have abdicated responsibility.
So basically, I could (in theory) wait till they depart the church premises, chalice in hand, and then phone up the local police ("Follow that chalice!") to arrest them... Oh wait, that's assuming that the local police are the ones who are charged with enforcing this... hmmmm.... okay, that also assumes that I have some means of watching the church door that doesn't involve me, myself, doing non-essential travel... double hmmmmmm.... and then there's response time, plus the fact that I don't know the address they're going to....
If I try a pre-emptive strike ("Teacher, Billy's planning something awful!"), I still face the question of "who the hell do I report this to?" plus the fact that nothing has actually happened yet, and the police in the city don't stir for less than a person bleeding out in the street. That's in normal times, much less during quarantine.
Our denominational officials are no help. They offer lofty words about hope and faith in hard times, and leave the individual congregations to make their own practical decisions. To be fair, decision-making power in the LCMS has resided with local congregations from forever, so there's really nothing they could do but scold. And they're all working from home as well, and overwhelmed...
Ah, fuckit.
Actually forget the half-a-brain criteria.....we saw some footage on television last night of a packed church in Moscow. One woman there was briefly interviewed. She said words to the effect "No-one can catch the virus in a church", and then we were informed that she was a doctor!"
Perhaps she has not read the instructions from the hierarchy in Moscow: http://www.patriarchia.ru/en/db/text/5608615.html
Perhaps she has not read the instructions from the hierarchy in Moscow: http://www.patriarchia.ru/en/db/text/5608615.html[/quote]
Not very reassuring except in relation to children and parish clubs.
" The work of Sunday schools and parish clubs should be suspended until a special instruction."
I was in the front row with my back to the door. When I got up to go preach I noticed a man and a women sitting in the very back of the church. No biggie they were not sitting near each other. I knew the man, he is a member and often does maintenance around the building. I never saw the women before. At the end of the service she rushes up to the pastor who seems to have known her and says, "fist bump," so they come together and bump fists and I start to leave. The man and I nod to each other from a distance. The women comes up behind me grabs me by the shoulder and says, "fist bump," and taps me on the elbow before I could get away. 6 feet people 6 feet. Stay home people, stay home.
There are no known cases in my county never the less, I felt very invaded. I am 81 and although old really not ready to die, because some people are to dumb to follow directions.
Idiot woman. That ought to qualify as assault.
Ditto what LC said. Also grounds for yelling at the woman, And if she should try it again with some kind of authority around, try to get the authority's attention,
Or a bunch of appropriately-distant Shipmates could accompany you with clue bats...or raid the Gator's stash of rusty farm implements...
(I'm in a bad mood. Might as well use it.)
I may try to go to a proper grocery tomorrow. Need fresh veggies. Too many TV dinners. But I'm not sure if I can make it out early enough for the "disabled and seniors hour"; and I don't know if I can cope with possible crowds later.
I usually get most of my groceries delivered by a supermarket, but they're totally booked for at least this week. There are a couple of other services (e,g,, Insta-cart) that I might use, but they're probably booked up Hmmm...If i do a click & pick option, they wouldn't have to do the shopping...Well, I'll try a trip on my own, and figure it out from there.
It must be very hard for some people - learning difficulties/mental health issues/autism etc. - to cope with what's happening. The situation seems to change by the day, so it's hard enough for ANYONE to keep up!
If OTOH it was just deliberate fu*kwittery (a la Trump)...
I failed at that and have got a handwashing regime in place for the duration with a friend doing the occasional big wash.
The most I could get was a washing machine delivered. It was not being prepared to take away the old one that was the decider for me.
Eeek!
Owing to a lack of sockets in the kitchen, if I want to use the food processor, like yesterday, I have to take another plug out. Normally I use the toaster socket, but for some odd reason I unplugged the washing machine instead.
I only twigged when I realised the power light was still flashing on the food processor, and I knew the toaster worked, as we'd had toast this morning.
The problem seems to be that many local authorities have closed their amenity tips, not just to the general public but to businesses because domestic and commercial waste/recycling tends to be handled on the same site.
She did not appear to be by her conversation with the pastor, but perhaps you are right. I would feel much better about what happened if that was the case. I have calmed down and let go of the whole thing now, life goes on. As an added note just found out the Pastor thinks because she has a flu shot and a pneumonia booster she will not get this virus. I give up. I am staying home.
@Golden Key, are there any organic delivery boxes you can sign up for in your area? I get one twice a month and they are very reasonable. They even do eggs and almond milk. You can also do sprouts if you have dry beans, or seeds. Easy and gives you some fresh greens.
I also plant the ends of celery and spring onions in my window flower pots and use the growth in salads and soups. Parsley seeds also do well in a flower pot in the kitchen window.
Plus the first available delivery slot is 15 April, but I can understand that.
A tip from a fellow hand washing clothes person for the duration. Washing is not too bad, a bit tedious but essentially straight forward. For small loads, a Scrubba wash bag saves your hands while washing (but you still get them wet while rinsing) and is quite effective. What I do find difficult is wringing out so the clothes are dry enough not to drip anywhere. The solution for me is to wrap everything in towels, preferably microfibre towels, and then wring.
Since in the summer we couldn't find an engineer to come and service the wretched thing, heaven only knows what will happen now
I quietly got up, and walked out.