I thought I had posted a response to interesting info about iPads, but it doesn't seem to be here. Never mind, ;:I'lll try and be patient and wait until software is fixed¬
Just dropping in (after discovering this thread) to say it (I) felt good to share my experience of local anasthetic in breast cancer surgery with you.
Hope all is going well
Just dropping in (after discovering this thread) to say it (I) felt good to share my experience of local anasthetic in breast cancer surgery with you.
Hope all is going well
Yes, thank you - that is very kind of you to ask. I tell people that I had heard from someone who had had a local anaesthetic which was most helpful information. At present there are still two very tinybits of undissolved stitches I can feel, but otherwise no problem, so I shall start swimming again in a few weeks.
The replacement for Letrozole is Exemestane which I collected from pharmacy and started yesterday.
I continue to read the Cancer sucks thread of course.
Oh, good freakin' grief, Thunderbunk! I would think that would be a normal place for an ex-Christian (for whom that didn't work) who's now both a secular humanist and an atheist (for whom that works very well).
(:eyeroll:)
Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?
It was active today.
Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?
It was active today.
Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.
He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.
See any hell threads with his name on ?
Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.
Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?
It was active today.
Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.
No need. If you really want to make me happy, just stop posting altogether.
Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?
It was active today.
Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.
No need. If you really want to make me happy, just stop posting altogether.
Fortunately I don’t give a flying fuck about what makes you happy. Shoo fly.
He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.
See any hell threads with his name on ?
Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.
FWIW Russ is unremittingly awful, in style and in content. There is a little bridge in Hell that he hides under.
Well, I don't know whether to step up and take a small bow, or just smile and voice my thanks for giving me a cause to smile , on seeing this thread reappear,.
Well, I don't know whether to step up and take a small bow, or just smile and voice my thanks for giving me a cause to smile , on seeing this thread reappear,.
I’m just wondering why @Colin Smith has the ambition to be annoying! 🤔
He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.
See any hell threads with his name on ?
Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.
FWIW Russ is unremittingly awful, in style and in content. There is a little bridge in Hell that he hides under.
That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.
¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
²To my knowledge
³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
Doesn’t explain his views on people with moderate to severe learning disabilities.
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
Doesn’t explain his views on people with moderate to severe learning disabilities.
I'd forgotten that. Can't remember if there is any nuance in his position and I'm already too depressed to go looking at that thread again.
People who devalue the disabled deserve their place in ever hell imaginable.
That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.
¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
²To my knowledge
³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one
Russ has posted 758 times. Martin has posted 3.5K times. And if you think Russ needs to be called down here nearly every day he posts, by all means, go right ahead.
That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.
¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
²To my knowledge
³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one
Russ has posted 758 times. Martin has posted 3.5K times. And if you think Russ needs to be called down here nearly every day he posts, by all means, go right ahead.
I don't, typically, feed trolls.
Fair point that Martin posts a lot so his sometimes irritating style will generate more notice. Doesn't change that he is merely irritating v being a complete shitstain.
Not saying that Martin doesn't generally deserve his hell calls, just making the point that awful isn't the trigger.
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?
No. I don't hang onto or revisit old conversations on the internet so was surprised it had been brought up again. Once I find I am in disagreement with someone I just move on.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?
No. I don't hang onto or revisit old conversations on the internet so was surprised it had been brought up again. Once I find I am in disagreement with someone I just move on.
"I said these people should be killed, and I haven't changed my mind on that, but hey, bygones."
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.
"Let's not remind the Ship that I hold these views."
Were a new thread to discuss the issue I would restate my views because I think my position is reasoned and pragmatic and based on my experiences dealing with someone who, while alive and well, expressed a wish not to be allowed to live should they succumb to dementia but who has, because of the current law, endured six years bereft of reason and memory and every other faculty that made her human.
But it does feel odd that the matter should be raised here on a totally unrelated thread.
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.
My apologies. It seemed odd the issue was raised by anyone given I had forgotten the conversation.
I think the word 'sociopathic' is often used to dismiss those who hold views we disagree with. I would describe myself as unsentimental.
I am rather bemused at the turn the thread has taken.
Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.
My apologies. It seemed odd the issue was raised by anyone given I had forgotten the conversation.
I think the word 'sociopathic' is often used to dismiss those who hold views we disagree with. I would describe myself as unsentimental.
I am rather bemused at the turn the thread has taken.
Well, considering this started with a ill-timed whinge, it certainly hasn't lowered the tone of the thread. And, though your particulars are a tangent on a tangent, the original tangent is related to the ill-timed, twisted knickers* whinge.
Unsentimental is throwing away greetings cards, not people.
*Which is well within the purview and purpose of Hell, of course.
Well, considering this started with a ill-timed whinge, it certainly hasn't lowered the tone of the thread. And, though your particulars are a tangent on a tangent, the original tangent is related to the ill-timed, twisted knickers* whinge.
Unsentimental is throwing away greetings cards, not people.
*Which is well within the purview and purpose of Hell, of course.
Unsentimental is not sending greeting cards.
The whole point is that I do not regard sufferers of severe dementia and other severe mental disabilities as people because the illness/disease has robbed them of the capacity to be people.
If you believe that there is some undefined, nebulous, possibly divine aspect of being human that means people are still people no matter how catastrophic their mental impairment then fine, we disagree on that. For me, human is as human does.
I still say that if we know when it's right to put a non-human animal out of its misery then surely we should also know when it's right to do so for someone of our own species.
No - because we don’t know what is going on in their mind. My Mum, like yours, had severe advanced dementia, but I could never call her non-human just because she could no longer communicate.
But we’ve had this argument.
I care for and love my animals very nearly as much as I do the humans in my life - and I’m not sentimental in the slightest.
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A tablet is better than a phone ‘tho as you can get a normal keyboard to go with it.
Hope all is going well
The replacement for Letrozole is Exemestane which I collected from pharmacy and started yesterday.
I continue to read the Cancer sucks thread of course.
(:eyeroll:)
It was active today.
Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
As far as the other is concerned, I will consider whether to let sleeping dogs lie, as that thread seems to have moved on.
That's because she's doing it wrong (which people hate), and you don't matter (who are you again?).
Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.
See any hell threads with his name on ?
His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.
No need. If you really want to make me happy, just stop posting altogether.
Fortunately I don’t give a flying fuck about what makes you happy. Shoo fly.
A get room two you.
Not necessarily!
This made me LOL- the whole interaction, just brilliant- not very hellish I know but,
thanks, I needed that
FWIW Russ is unremittingly awful, in style and in content. There is a little bridge in Hell that he hides under.
I’m just wondering why @Colin Smith has the ambition to be annoying! 🤔
"there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about"
Aha! 💡
Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.
¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
²To my knowledge
³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one
So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
Oh. Oh, you don't know. Bless your heart, you poor dear.
Doesn’t explain his views on people with moderate to severe learning disabilities.
People who devalue the disabled deserve their place in ever hell imaginable.
Russ has posted 758 times. Martin has posted 3.5K times. And if you think Russ needs to be called down here nearly every day he posts, by all means, go right ahead.
Fair point that Martin posts a lot so his sometimes irritating style will generate more notice. Doesn't change that he is merely irritating v being a complete shitstain.
Not saying that Martin doesn't generally deserve his hell calls, just making the point that awful isn't the trigger.
It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.
I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?
No. I don't hang onto or revisit old conversations on the internet so was surprised it had been brought up again. Once I find I am in disagreement with someone I just move on.
"I said these people should be killed, and I haven't changed my mind on that, but hey, bygones."
Can you see why we're not likely to forget that?
But let's not derail the thread.
"Let's not remind the Ship that I hold these views."
Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.
Were a new thread to discuss the issue I would restate my views because I think my position is reasoned and pragmatic and based on my experiences dealing with someone who, while alive and well, expressed a wish not to be allowed to live should they succumb to dementia but who has, because of the current law, endured six years bereft of reason and memory and every other faculty that made her human.
But it does feel odd that the matter should be raised here on a totally unrelated thread.
My apologies. It seemed odd the issue was raised by anyone given I had forgotten the conversation.
I think the word 'sociopathic' is often used to dismiss those who hold views we disagree with. I would describe myself as unsentimental.
I am rather bemused at the turn the thread has taken.
Unsentimental is throwing away greetings cards, not people.
*Which is well within the purview and purpose of Hell, of course.
Unsentimental is not sending greeting cards.
The whole point is that I do not regard sufferers of severe dementia and other severe mental disabilities as people because the illness/disease has robbed them of the capacity to be people.
If you believe that there is some undefined, nebulous, possibly divine aspect of being human that means people are still people no matter how catastrophic their mental impairment then fine, we disagree on that. For me, human is as human does.
I still say that if we know when it's right to put a non-human animal out of its misery then surely we should also know when it's right to do so for someone of our own species.
But we’ve had this argument.
I care for and love my animals very nearly as much as I do the humans in my life - and I’m not sentimental in the slightest.