SusanDoris the millstone

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  • It doesn’t sound negative at all - except that the learning involved would be minutes, not hours. They are so intuitive.

    A tablet is better than a phone ‘tho as you can get a normal keyboard to go with it.

    :smile:

  • I thought I had posted a response to interesting info about iPads, but it doesn't seem to be here. Never mind, ;:I'lll try and be patient and wait until software is fixed¬ :)
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    You did post it, SusanDoris. It’s on the previous page. This thread is now 32 pages long. It’s at the bottom of page 31.
  • fineline wrote: »
    You did post it, SusanDoris. It’s on the previous page. This thread is now 32 pages long. It’s at the bottom of page 31.
    Ah, right - thank you.
  • GalilitGalilit Shipmate
    Just dropping in (after discovering this thread) to say it (I) felt good to share my experience of local anasthetic in breast cancer surgery with you.
    Hope all is going well
  • SusanDorisSusanDoris Shipmate
    Galilit wrote: »
    Just dropping in (after discovering this thread) to say it (I) felt good to share my experience of local anasthetic in breast cancer surgery with you.
    Hope all is going well
    Yes, thank you - that is very kind of you to ask. I tell people that I had heard from someone who had had a local anaesthetic which was most helpful information. At present there are still two very tinybits of undissolved stitches I can feel, but otherwise no problem, so I shall start swimming again in a few weeks.

    The replacement for Letrozole is Exemestane which I collected from pharmacy and started yesterday.

    I continue to read the Cancer sucks thread of course.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    I’m a veteran of both those meds, @SusanDoris. Hang in there!
  • And so the millstone fastens to another discussion. This time about why Christians might leave one cold. The irony is crushing.
  • Golden KeyGolden Key Shipmate
    edited October 2019
    Oh, good freakin' grief, Thunderbunk! I would think that would be a normal place for an ex-Christian (for whom that didn't work) who's now both a secular humanist and an atheist (for whom that works very well).
    (:eyeroll:)
  • Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?
  • ECraigR wrote: »
    Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?

    It was active today.

    Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.
  • I should have come back and pointed out that I was looking at old posts. I simply hadn't noticed.

    As far as the other is concerned, I will consider whether to let sleeping dogs lie, as that thread seems to have moved on.
  • It's annoying that Susan Doris gets all the credit for being an annoying atheist when I'm doing my level best and hardly anyone even notices.
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    It's annoying that Susan Doris gets all the credit for being an annoying atheist when I'm doing my level best and hardly anyone even notices.

    That's because she's doing it wrong (which people hate), and you don't matter (who are you again?).
  • He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
  • ECraigR wrote: »
    Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?

    It was active today.

    Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.

    Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.
  • He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
    Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
    Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.

    See any hell threads with his name on ?
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
    Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.

    See any hell threads with his name on ?
    Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
    His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.
  • ECraigR wrote: »
    ECraigR wrote: »
    Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?

    It was active today.

    Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.

    Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.

    No need. If you really want to make me happy, just stop posting altogether.
  • ECraigR wrote: »
    ECraigR wrote: »
    Wait, that thread has been inactive for awhile. Ate you complaining about misdeeds of SusanDoris from weeks ago?

    It was active today.

    Since we are asking each other questions - do you do other things beside wander on to threads and tell people off for the way they are posting? That seems to be mostly what you are doing on the David Bentley Hart thread. It is super helpful, if you would like some feedback.

    Lol, well aren’t you precious. I’ll try clearing my posts with you first to make sure your happy with the quality of it.

    No need. If you really want to make me happy, just stop posting altogether.

    Fortunately I don’t give a flying fuck about what makes you happy. Shoo fly.

  • Form a famous sentence from these words:

    A get room two you.
  • He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)

    Not necessarily!
  • RooK wrote: »
    It's annoying that Susan Doris gets all the credit for being an annoying atheist when I'm doing my level best and hardly anyone even notices.

    That's because she's doing it wrong (which people hate), and you don't matter (who are you again?).

    This made me LOL- the whole interaction, just brilliant- not very hellish I know but,
    thanks, I needed that
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
    Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.

    See any hell threads with his name on ?
    Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
    His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.

    FWIW Russ is unremittingly awful, in style and in content. There is a little bridge in Hell that he hides under.
  • Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
  • Well, I don't know whether to step up and take a small bow, or just smile and voice my thanks for giving me a cause to smile , on seeing this thread reappear,.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    SusanDoris wrote: »
    Well, I don't know whether to step up and take a small bow, or just smile and voice my thanks for giving me a cause to smile , on seeing this thread reappear,.

    I’m just wondering why @Colin Smith has the ambition to be annoying! 🤔
  • Boogie wrote: »
    I’m just wondering why @Colin Smith has the ambition to be annoying! 🤔

    "there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" :wink:
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    I’m just wondering why @Colin Smith has the ambition to be annoying! 🤔

    "there is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" :wink:

    Aha! 💡

  • sionisais wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    He’s the man who thinks some people are less than human. (I find that hard to forget or see past - looks like it’s just me though.)
    Not how I remember that epiphanies thread.

    See any hell threads with his name on ?
    Shipmate Hell threads are rarely about awful people. They are about annoying people. Susan Doris is not awful and she isn't even unique in what she says, but she can be annoying in the way she says it. Is Martin54 awful? No, he is annoying. . Russ is awful, but he is not called here as often as Martin despite his awfulness. Whilst I think Colin Smith's conclusions are awful, I can understand how he got there.
    His conclusions deserve a kick in the fundament, but why he got to them might not.

    FWIW Russ is unremittingly awful, in style and in content. There is a little bridge in Hell that he hides under.
    That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
    Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
    If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.

    ¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
    ²To my knowledge
    ³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one

  • lilbuddhalilbuddha Shipmate
    edited October 2019
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.
  • Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.

    Oh. Oh, you don't know. Bless your heart, you poor dear.
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    Doesn’t explain his views on people with moderate to severe learning disabilities.
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    Doesn’t explain his views on people with moderate to severe learning disabilities.
    I'd forgotten that. Can't remember if there is any nuance in his position and I'm already too depressed to go looking at that thread again.
    People who devalue the disabled deserve their place in ever hell imaginable.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
    Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
    If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.

    ¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
    ²To my knowledge
    ³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one

    Russ has posted 758 times. Martin has posted 3.5K times. And if you think Russ needs to be called down here nearly every day he posts, by all means, go right ahead.
  • Ruth wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    That Russ is awful is part of my point. Just look at his and Martin's current threads. Martin has nearly twice the comments despite not being an awful person.¹
    Russ has received one warning² about behaviour and Martin³ has received many and has been planked at least once.
    If awfulness were the trigger, Russ would be called down here on nearly every day he posts.

    ¹I say that advisedly, based on his postings.
    ²To my knowledge
    ³Not disputing that he deserved them, he well and truly earned each one

    Russ has posted 758 times. Martin has posted 3.5K times. And if you think Russ needs to be called down here nearly every day he posts, by all means, go right ahead.
    I don't, typically, feed trolls.
    Fair point that Martin posts a lot so his sometimes irritating style will generate more notice. Doesn't change that he is merely irritating v being a complete shitstain.
    Not saying that Martin doesn't generally deserve his hell calls, just making the point that awful isn't the trigger.
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    edited October 2019
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.

    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
  • I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.

    Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.

    Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?

    No. I don't hang onto or revisit old conversations on the internet so was surprised it had been brought up again. Once I find I am in disagreement with someone I just move on.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.

    Have you changed your mind in the intervening months regarding who, and in what circumstances, deserves the epithet of human?

    No. I don't hang onto or revisit old conversations on the internet so was surprised it had been brought up again. Once I find I am in disagreement with someone I just move on.

    "I said these people should be killed, and I haven't changed my mind on that, but hey, bygones."

    Can you see why we're not likely to forget that?
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    edited October 2019
    Doc Tor wrote: »
    "I said these people should be killed, and I haven't changed my mind on that, but hey, bygones."

    Can you see why we're not likely to forget that?
    I suspect I used a phrase like "allowed to die" and I wouldn't have called them people.

    But let's not derail the thread.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    "I said these people should be killed, and I haven't changed my mind on that, but hey, bygones."

    Can you see why we're not likely to forget that?
    I suspect I used a phrase like "allowed to die" and I wouldn't have called them people.

    But let's not derail the thread.

    "Let's not remind the Ship that I hold these views."
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.

    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
    in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
    Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
    If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    "Let's not remind the Ship that I hold these views."

    Were a new thread to discuss the issue I would restate my views because I think my position is reasoned and pragmatic and based on my experiences dealing with someone who, while alive and well, expressed a wish not to be allowed to live should they succumb to dementia but who has, because of the current law, endured six years bereft of reason and memory and every other faculty that made her human.

    But it does feel odd that the matter should be raised here on a totally unrelated thread.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Shipmate
    edited October 2019
    I’m not over it, sorry, not sorry.
  • Colin SmithColin Smith Suspended
    edited October 2019
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.

    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
    in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
    Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
    If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.

    My apologies. It seemed odd the issue was raised by anyone given I had forgotten the conversation.
    I think the word 'sociopathic' is often used to dismiss those who hold views we disagree with. I would describe myself as unsentimental.

    I am rather bemused at the turn the thread has taken.
  • lilbuddha wrote: »
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    Thank you. The last few comments give me hope I can one day be annoying.
    Don't thank me. I find your comments to be horrible in effect. However, having watched people I love go through degenerating disabilities including dementia, I understand the desire to hide from it.
    So, IMO, that means that you mightn't be a monster. It doesn't mean I accept your choice, just that I understand that it could come from pain.

    It doesn't come from pain and I am not a monster.

    I do find it strange that you should drag up the issue months after the conversation ended.
    in fact, I didn’t. Your name was pulled in by someone else.
    Up to this post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Now I’m starting to wonder.
    If your attitude towards people with dementia and disabilities is a calculated thing rather than an emotional one, that seems rather sociopathic.

    My apologies. It seemed odd the issue was raised by anyone given I had forgotten the conversation.
    I think the word 'sociopathic' is often used to dismiss those who hold views we disagree with. I would describe myself as unsentimental.

    I am rather bemused at the turn the thread has taken.
    Well, considering this started with a ill-timed whinge, it certainly hasn't lowered the tone of the thread. And, though your particulars are a tangent on a tangent, the original tangent is related to the ill-timed, twisted knickers* whinge.

    Unsentimental is throwing away greetings cards, not people.

    *Which is well within the purview and purpose of Hell, of course.
  • lilbuddha wrote: »

    Well, considering this started with a ill-timed whinge, it certainly hasn't lowered the tone of the thread. And, though your particulars are a tangent on a tangent, the original tangent is related to the ill-timed, twisted knickers* whinge.

    Unsentimental is throwing away greetings cards, not people.

    *Which is well within the purview and purpose of Hell, of course.

    Unsentimental is not sending greeting cards.

    The whole point is that I do not regard sufferers of severe dementia and other severe mental disabilities as people because the illness/disease has robbed them of the capacity to be people.

    If you believe that there is some undefined, nebulous, possibly divine aspect of being human that means people are still people no matter how catastrophic their mental impairment then fine, we disagree on that. For me, human is as human does.

    I still say that if we know when it's right to put a non-human animal out of its misery then surely we should also know when it's right to do so for someone of our own species.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    edited October 2019
    No - because we don’t know what is going on in their mind. My Mum, like yours, had severe advanced dementia, but I could never call her non-human just because she could no longer communicate.

    But we’ve had this argument.

    I care for and love my animals very nearly as much as I do the humans in my life - and I’m not sentimental in the slightest.

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