Arguing on the Ship - no, really?
@Brother Jude said - The bible also teaches us not to argue amongst ourselves so I'll leave it there.
Where is the laughing and bashing the floor emoji - I really need it!
I came here because this is hilarious. What is Purgatory for if not argument/discussion?
This also drives me maaad. 😤 😡
“On that note, I do not ask that you, or anyone, simply take my word for it. Go to the WORD, pray on it, if you will.”
To be told that we’ll agree with you if we read the Bible and pray enough.
What?
Why?
Why would your point of view be THE one which we found in our reading of the text. Utter piffle. 🙄🙄
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Why would one go to the building containing the Wales Office of Research and Development and pray ON it? Is this some new cult I am not familiar with?
Testing proof texting abilities.
Be more like St Paul ?
OK, I'll channel my inner nit-picking, lawyerly misogynist, though I'm not sure that will make me flavour of anyone's month.
Comin’ through the rye
Gin a proofer tell a proofer
All ye’s are wrang but I
Gin a proofer meet a proofer
Comin’ through the glen
Gin a proofer tell a proofer
No, ye’r wrang - whit then?
(:notworthy:) to all.
No, I’ve had one or two petulant outbursts over the years.
😷🤪😤🤯😜
Hmmm let me see if I've distilled this swill properly. You are angry, unsatisfied, disturbed by, or otherwise discontented with the expression of a biblical admonishment against dissention in the body of believers, used in context to express my personal lack of desire to undertake tedious, inane, pseudo-intellectual babble, which presents no conceivable end or beginning (circular logic if you will). Should I apologize for such affront?
As to the latter point......do I need to sit down awhile & explain to you, or anyone else, the difference between claiming unassailable correctness & acknowledging that only God can claim such? You are angered because I encouraged mouse to seek his or her own understanding through earnest prayer & seeking in Godly fashion? Right then. Humility is wrong according to you & your band of accusers. Understood......
You are aware that Mousethief is part of the church that believes your tradition dissented from the body of believers nearly 1000 years ago, are you? Oh small-minded and ignorant one.
You've no right to adminish any one from anything.
If you don't want to engage in our "tedious, inane, pseudo-intellectual babble" without passing off your pathetic opinions as inarguable truth, then please, use the door you came in through. Don't bother coming back.
And if anyone asks you, then you can tell them that we don't appreciate canned biblical proof-texting around here, and we especially don't appreciate you waving your opinions about as fact.
It just means that he's decided what is biblical - and someone else does not immediately agree. Because he's an Evangelical and he knows these tings.
I find it entertaining that you not only assume to know my religious background but that you also choose to accuse me of proclaiming some inerrant truth, when I have done no such thing. I offered one interpretation of biblical doctrine, with an open invitation to discussion & other's interpretations. Apparently that was too much for you & the others who have found affront in my words. It shows your mindset when you automatically assume I made any predeterminations upon the nature of mouse's or any other's religious inclinations. You who seek to label as ignorant & small-minded do nothing but show such qualities within yourself.
As it is written "Love your enemies & pray for those who persecute you."
I do love you, brother, & I will pray for you.
This,
“You daughter of a perverse and rebellious woman!"
Or this,
“You blind fools!” Where the Greek for fools is moros from which we get...
What do you are not an Evangelical. A liar too? Impressive.
I had thought my acknowledgment of possible incorrectness was evident in the wording of my initial post on the subject at hand. It would seem I was wrong, so be it, I stand corrected for assuming it was enough. Thank you for your relatively friendly correction.
I suspect I Am Not Alone.
And you did write This does seem to suggest that you regard your interpretation as infallible. Such presumptions don't generally go over well here. (I, too, was impressed that it was @Boogie who issued the Hell call.)
Furthermore, Purgatory is specifically conceived of as "our proper debate space for theology, ethics, politics, science, tech and culture." Attempts to unilaterally shut down discussion in that manner generally aren't well-received either.
I don't think anyone here is your "enemy," let alone your persecutor. But it might be a good idea for you to get a better grasp of Ship culture before posting more in this vein, or this could turn into a very long thread indeed. That threatening way of promising prayer is also unpopular aboard the Ship.
No, I just think you were being gratuitously/bloody rude about a Shipmate who is a far more balanced and thoughtful contributor than you seem to be. I'll leave it there, as @Boogie is perfectly capable of defending herself!
This.
And, on reflection, Pigs seem to find swill easy to swallow. Try some yourself.
Ahh yes offense it must be! It would seem I underestimated the lengths to which people will go these days to take offense. Surely it must be true, I have sought to offend all!
A finer history lesson I could not have found had I been searching.
Fear not, the offender is no more.
Brother Jude--
We have a saying around here, handy in times like these:
"I Thought This Was A Christian Website!"
or
"ITTWACW".
Many apprentices board the Ship (may she and all who sail in her be blessed), assuming that one of the following is true: a) the crew agrees with the apprentice's understanding of Christianity; b) the crew are misguided, and need compassionate correction; c) the crew are vile heathens, "sinners in the hands of an angry God", and the apprentice will earn extra crowns and mansions for at least trying to show the miscreants the error of their ways, etc.
A watchful apprentice may notice Shipmates who are currently Christians (of more flavors than Baskin-Robbins ever dreamed); Shipmates moving from/to Christianity; Shipmates who aren't Christians, don't wanna be, and are still wonderful, worthwhile, ethical people; and Shipmates who are just plain folks, whatever their beliefs. And (horrors) they have fun, wrestle, argue, laugh, and support each other.
We are, after all, a community of Christian Unrest.
If you come back, take it easy; pour something in an ITTWACW mug; and prepare to laugh.
Or at least chuckle.
I will still love each of you regardless.
Brother Jude
@Brother Jude, I don't think that anyone here is looking to take offense. I think, rather, that you neglected to get a feel for the Ship's discourse and style before jumping into the deep end.
I hope you'll stick around (trimming your sails a bit, perhaps). I'm still interested in knowing your faith tradition, and exploring the areas in which we agree and disagree.
Sometimes we take ourselves too seriously, and your last line is a good starting point for carrying on. Prior to what looked like an uncomfortable confrontation developing some years ago, I was advised by an old and greatly respected minister, "As a Christian, I know you will love him, but I don't think you are going to like him". He was right, but then we moved on.
But will you like us? Note that even well established shipmates may get called to the hell board at times. Most of recognize that our opinions of each other of will change over time (assuming we can ken what they are saying in the case of at least one of our more obscure members). And that our own opinions on issues as well as people may change. The purgatory board is place for refining arguments on any issue except those classified as dead horses or ship administrative matters. To denounce arguing on it is to say that the board serves no purpose.
I was ot denouncing others right to argue just saying that I had no desire to do such. Perhaps that was unclear & if so I will gladly apologize
Thank you.
If you have no desire to argue I suggest that you post in Heaven/All Saints/The Circus. Maybe get to know people that way.
And please stop throwing Bible verses into discussions as if that ends the matter. Bible verses start the conversation and there is never one definitive interpretation.
It’s part of the fascination and fun of the Ship - the wide diversity of views and traditions to be found here.
No, my OP definitely wasn’t my opinion of you. It was my opinion of your posting style. It was also my opinion of all times people try to end discussion by using the Bible. Discussion is good and healthy and shutting it down never goes well in my experience.
Im glad you are sticking around, I’m sure you’ll come to appreciate the Ship as much as I do.
This.