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  • Well, it seems to be in Oblivion already, but there is a thread on how shipmates got their names.
  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    Well, it seems to be in Oblivion already, but there is a thread on how shipmates got their names.

    Good. That would indicate that such idle trivia doesn't belong in Hell.
  • Twilight wrote: »
    I'm just amazed that Mousethief has the nerve to show up on this thread and join the complaints about someone posting too much.

    Cheap shot. For God's sake.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Twilight wrote: »
    I'm just amazed that Mousethief has the nerve to show up on this thread and join the complaints about someone posting too much.

    Cheap shot. For God's sake.

    Cheap shot yes, but @Twilight has missed the point of this thread entirely.

    The complaint was that @Rublev was starting topics then not putting any point of view -she was just asking questions as if were her students.

    I specifically said that she generates a lot of interesting discussion on the boards - a good thing!
  • The reason why I was about to call Rublev to the nether regions is that I want to know her before I start answering her questions. This is a community, not just a discussion board, and I need to feel that the person asking the question is part of that community, a known entity, before I start answering their questions. I also felt like the Ship was being spammed with every question that floated to the top of her brain, rather than receiving considered elements which might be of value to other people, not just a means of offloading a passing fancy.

    Posting on the Ship, you're adding to a community as well as asking/answering someone's questions, even in Purgatory.
  • RublevRublev Shipmate
    Your point is well made. My divergent mind loves to speculate on questions, and I shall have to restrain it. And take some extra Lessons in Navigation.
  • And this latest post in Purgatory shows she hasn't understood the complaint:
    Rublev wrote: »
    @Twilight

    What is the relationship between anger and sin? Paul says: 'In your anger do not sin... get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger' (Eph 4: 26, 31). So perhaps he means that anger is a dangerous state of mind to be in because you might lose control and go to extremes. The gateway place to committing a sin as you say.

    @Rublev this post has nothing of you in it. It's the impersonal questioning of a teacher trying to draw something out of a student. It is not discussion.
  • RublevRublev Shipmate
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    edited April 2019
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    Adding personal experience helps move the discussion forward, and helps us to get to know each other.

    Of course that tends to be all I have to add to discussions. 🙄🙄

    But a balance is good 🙂

    (Shhhh - don’t tell @Gamma Gamaliel that! :wink: )
  • But you haven't said that you want to continue discussing the relationship between anger and sin, you've left it in midair for the pupils to pick up. To move the discussion on you need to explicitly say that "That's an interesting idea and I would find it interesting to think more about the relationship between anger and sin".
  • RublevRublev Shipmate
    Yes, I'm still trying to map onto this genre. I'm about intermediate with it. I see what you mean.
  • TwilightTwilight Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Twilight wrote: »
    I'm just amazed that Mousethief has the nerve to show up on this thread and join the complaints about someone posting too much.

    Cheap shot. For God's sake.

    I realize "number of posts" isn't the main point of the thread, but that Rublev only asks questions and fails to connect personally, but this thread had swerved slightly to a lesser issue about the number of topics she has started and just how much she had written in the time since she had joined.

    So that's why I referred to Mousethief's famous record for prolific posting. A lame and rather pointless shot, probably, not exactly analogous to Rublev's case, surely, but "cheap" shot? I don't get that.

    A cheap shot is a hit below the belt intending to hurt someone, like referring to someone's disability. Am I missing something here?

  • @Rublev, keep trying, but don't be too trying whilst you try.....
  • Twilight wrote: »
    A cheap shot is a hit below the belt intending to hurt someone, like referring to someone's disability. Am I missing something here?

    Always.
  • TwilightTwilight Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Twilight wrote: »
    A cheap shot is a hit below the belt intending to hurt someone, like referring to someone's disability. Am I missing something here?

    Always.

    So your high post count, something that the entire ship once celebrated when you reached 10,000, is now a sensitive issue that we must not refer to because of some secret issue that you and Boogie know about and I don't.

    Plus, the two of you feel free to call me out about it and accuse me of making "cheap shots," while, at the same time, you remain cryptic in your answers to me about what I said wrong. Shades of the prissy girl's, "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you!"

    All just more of the smug, conceit of the Ship's class president and homecoming queen, ever confident that you can safely swan around the ship, saying whatever you like, on any board, starting* things and then running off, without fear of reprisal.

    *You know, if you didn't want to talk to me you could try, not coming up behind every post I make and taking a personal dig.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    🤔confused🤔

    Nobody’s post count is a secret.

    You missed the point of this thread, that’s all.

  • We-e-ell - post counts are now presented as 1.9K or 3.1K once you're past, I guess, 1,000.
  • Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    Feel free to take that forward, but don't be surprised when someone tells you that anger is not the only sin, nor is it the worst nor the deadliest.
  • TwilightTwilight Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    🤔confused🤔

    Nobody’s post count is a secret.

    You missed the point of this thread, that’s all.

    You're missing a few points yourself. What you and Mousethief are keeping secret is not the actual post count, but rather, the reason why my remark about his high post count was perceived, by both of you, as a "cheap shot."

    Per Miriam-Webster:
    Definition of cheap shot. 1 : an act of deliberate roughness against a defenseless opponent especially in a contact sport taking cheap shots at the quarterback. 2 : a critical statement that takes unfair advantage of a known weakness of the target.

    My question for you, as a "cheap shot," accuser, is why MT's post count is a known weakness?

  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    I think it's a "cheap shot" because it's too easy to point out.

    I personally thought it was essentially valid, even though the comparison was a bit off.
  • Boogie wrote: »
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    Adding personal experience helps move the discussion forward, and helps us to get to know each other.

    Of course that tends to be all I have to add to discussions. 🙄🙄

    But a balance is good 🙂

    (Shhhh - don’t tell @Gamma Gamaliel that! :wink: )

    Eh? I am nothing if not unbalanced ... ;)
  • Boogie wrote: »
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    But a balance is good 🙂
    Perhaps not when the answer is obvious and clear to the majority. Then, attempts at balance can appear very passive aggressive.

  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Boogie wrote: »
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    But a balance is good 🙂
    Perhaps not when the answer is obvious and clear to the majority. Then, attempts at balance can appear very passive aggressive.

    I meant a balance between intellectual discourse and personal experience.

  • Boogie wrote: »
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    Adding personal experience helps move the discussion forward, and helps us to get to know each other.

    Of course that tends to be all I have to add to discussions. 🙄🙄

    But a balance is good 🙂

    (Shhhh - don’t tell @Gamma Gamaliel that! :wink: )

    Eh? I am nothing if not unbalanced ... ;)

    There, there.....no need to explain! All is forgiven, and we love you with True Christian Love™
    :wink:
  • Boogie wrote: »
    Boogie wrote: »
    Rublev wrote: »
    That's my response to Twilight point. I agree with her about it being a gateway place. I'd like to take it forward by discussing the relationship between anger and sin.

    But a balance is good 🙂
    Perhaps not when the answer is obvious and clear to the majority. Then, attempts at balance can appear very passive aggressive.

    I meant a balance between intellectual discourse and personal experience.

    Is it easier to understand discourse or someone else's experience?
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Personal experience is more interesting, intellectual discourse is more illuminating.

    :smile:
  • We need both.
  • Both/and?

    ;)
  • Both means and.
  • And means both?

    Both and means?

    And both means?

    Beans meanz Heinz?
  • The first good joy that Mary had
    It was the joy of one
    To see her own son Jesus Christ
    When he was first her son.
    When he was first her son, good man,
    And blessed may he be:
    Both Father Son and Holy Ghost
    Through all eternity
  • mousethief wrote: »
    RooK wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Twilight wrote: »
    Not one of your better analogies, MT.

    Oh really. Name one of my other analogies.

    Ooh! I love playing "miss (direct) the point".
    I'm going to go with "Betty". Your analogies often sound like a Betty to me.

    I knew Twilight wouldn't think of that angle. If I have to be side-slapped, I suppose you will do.

    Oooo, can I watch?! Sounds positively...sexy!
  • Boogie wrote: »
    Personal experience is more interesting, intellectual discourse is more illuminating.

    :smile:
    Personal experience can drift into "look at me" narcissism (often does in my view/experience). Discourse can drift into "look at me" intellectualism (sometimes does IME). Does that value or devalue either?
  • The5thMary wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    RooK wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Twilight wrote: »
    Not one of your better analogies, MT.

    Oh really. Name one of my other analogies.

    Ooh! I love playing "miss (direct) the point".
    I'm going to go with "Betty". Your analogies often sound like a Betty to me.

    I knew Twilight wouldn't think of that angle. If I have to be side-slapped, I suppose you will do.

    Oooo, can I watch?! Sounds positively...sexy!

    Five bucks.
  • Next month I'll have five bucks. ;-)
  • Don't forget.
  • Gosh - are you that short of $$$?

    Perhaps a crowd-funding scheme.....???
    :wink:

    Seriously, thanks for the quote from one of my favourite songs/hymns about Our Lady..... I recall a Choral Evensong in Leamington Spa, many years ago, though I can't remember the exact occasion, where this song was sung (most beautifully) by the Quire, as an Anthem.
    :grin:
  • Oh, dear. I read Boogie's comment about intellectual discourse as 'intellectual intercourse'! I need to take a cold shower.
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