Spending a penny and getting a pounding.
Peaceoftheaction666
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And also fair to those women - including those who have suffered from male violence - who find some level of refuge in female-only spaces. And whose best outcome is to continue to exclude male voices and male secondary sexual characteristics from those spaces.
This quote was part of a fascinating discussion, whereby somebody called Russ was asked to sit on the naughty step.
It is certainly true that women (rape survivors and others too) are going to be terrified to spend a penny if a man is close by. Or, if a man who is now a woman is close by.
But grown women are one thing.
Teenage girls are another thing altogether.
Grown women are not likely to pick a fight - they're too busy and tired. They will just use the disabled loo instead, so as to feel safe.
Teenage girls?
They LIKE a good scrap.
They do.
Has anyone considered the safety of a Trans woman, who encounters a bunch of teenage girls in the public loo? Feral, violent teens, who like to pick a fight and make it physical?
They will inevitably beat up the trans person, film it and put it on youtube.
Let Trans people have their own loos.
This quote was part of a fascinating discussion, whereby somebody called Russ was asked to sit on the naughty step.
It is certainly true that women (rape survivors and others too) are going to be terrified to spend a penny if a man is close by. Or, if a man who is now a woman is close by.
But grown women are one thing.
Teenage girls are another thing altogether.
Grown women are not likely to pick a fight - they're too busy and tired. They will just use the disabled loo instead, so as to feel safe.
Teenage girls?
They LIKE a good scrap.
They do.
Has anyone considered the safety of a Trans woman, who encounters a bunch of teenage girls in the public loo? Feral, violent teens, who like to pick a fight and make it physical?
They will inevitably beat up the trans person, film it and put it on youtube.
Let Trans people have their own loos.
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Let them use the correct loos - the ladies loos.
It’s nobody’s business except the person themselves.
This is bad news for the genuine trans person (mistaken for a predator) and therefore we need to give them their own facilities. But. We already DO live in fear of feral teens. They already HAVE won
(Not that I go searching for them, you understand).
What is the source of your information about the Birmingham Library? Enquiring Minds need to know.....
Phd students in Birmingham.
So far, none of them have offered to do a thesis on the problem.
What a pity
It would make for saucy studies.
But seriously, put a man in a dress and get him to use a ladies loo and his safety would be at risk. He can call himself whatever he likes. Man, Woman, Pixie Dust fluffy cakes, The reality is that women are violent, especially when they've been on the drink, drugs, etc and its just not a good idea to do this. Especially not in Birmingham. The idea that young females are passive and won't react - I honestly don't know where that idea comes from.
He's also started out one the ship by starting threads and not discussing existing ones. He may resemble his idol.
He's come to teach. Not to discuss. Grinding his axe. 52 of one to 48 of another.
A genuine trans woman often wants to get in and out as quickly as they can. In fact, I bet that most trans women will do anything they can to avoid using a public toilet.
Let women (whether trans or cis) be women and stop using straw men in the guise of feral teens to bash them.
Exactly.
This is transphobia disguised as concern. 🙄
Trans women are already using women's bogs. How many have been beaten up as a result?
I imagine the number to first approximation is possibly a value between -1 and 1. Rather like the number of people assaulted by a transwoman (real or feigned) in the bogs or deterred from using a women's bog.
But what are facts when you are drinking from the Jordan Peterson well?
Just walk away.
@NicoleMR - just so.
Transphobic Trollery.
Even that degenerated to ridiculous comments and personal attack.
Let's look at the record thus far.
Conspiracy theory running close to Islamophobic (Islam is going to be foisted on Europe) and anti-semitic (Soros is plotting [insert evil plot here]) tropes.
Children who hurt dogs deserve to be savaged to death and their deaths not mourned.
We (well I) am just saying things to attack people like poor widdle PeaceOfBollocks666.
We'll all be apologising in the future for not seeing PeasGardenOrMushy666's right about all this.
Troll or Wankpuffin? Buggered if I know.
It’s not like you strip off next to the sink.
Also most people are sexually assaulted by people they know, usually in houses (whilst houses tend to have unisex toilets, there is no evidence that this is the most common room for such an assault) rather than public toilets.
I went in a country pub once and the publican made it clear that he expected us to buy a drink. I felt that it was somewhat defeating the porpoise.
I'm inclined to agree if you have to duel any kind of marine life before being allowed to use the toilet.
So lay off the accusations of sub-bridge-dwelling denizens, please. It's got old, quickly. Rest assured your ever-vigilant crew are, like the guards in Bentham's Panopticon, seeing all and hearing all.
DT
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Bullshit.
Most adult women, including many teens wouldn't and won't give a shit about how 'trans' the other woman in the stall is, even if they were aware of it. Your personal experience may make you think otherwise. But I'd like to see the evidence for the crap you're posting.
I only have one friend who is a trans woman. But people who make her life harder than it already is, like you are doing, make my blood boil for her.
Anyway she's brilliant.
We also have an arts/music/pop culture specialist who began life as Jordan Ratsakopolis, the brilliant creative from Axis of Awesome. She is now working on TV and elsewhere as Jordan Ratsakopolis the brilliant creative from Axis of Awesome. She is superb as well.
In fact, on the basis of those two people, I am going to claim that Australia wins at Trans people. Yet again, Australia proves to be the best in the world, as long as you don't mention racism or the treatment of asylum seekers. Or dealing fairly and honestly with indigenous Australians. And you forget about the shit we pulled to pinch East Timor's oil reserves.
Catherine McGregor.
In a horrible way.
A lot of misogyny has been disguised as ‘concern’ over the millennia.
Yes, it has been used about women a lot, I think arguments against women's suffrage, would say voting will be too tiring for them. And sport, women's bodies are too frail. Also used with gays, wouldn't it be better for them to stay secluded, and avoid trouble?
Same.
True. But this is another example of stranger danger. Most child abuse is carried out by relatives and/or trusted family friends, but most people aren't scared of that, because they don't imagine for a moment that their relatives might do something like that. People spend all their time worrying about dodgy men in vans asking children if they want to see a puppy (which happens, but is rarer).
This needs to go into the quotes file! Or put on a t-shirt!