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  • Cathscats wrote: »
    Yes, I was wondering who she-who-will-not-be-named might be. Mrs Rumpole? (But she was she who must be obeyed!)

    Apart from anything else she's stated that the concept of Islamaphobia is in itself anti-Semitic.

    Sorry, who has? Looked back through the thread but can't figure it out.
  • Melanie Phillips
  • Gah you named her. My face is melting.
  • OK, I really don't know who you are talking about.
  • Melanie Phillips

    Oh, her. She's lived on a Bullshit Mountain all of her very own for years. Why they invite her on to programmes on the radio as if she were someone with something interesting to say.
  • KarlLB wrote: »
    Cathscats wrote: »
    Yes, I was wondering who she-who-will-not-be-named might be. Mrs Rumpole? (But she was she who must be obeyed!)

    Apart from anything else she's stated that the concept of Islamaphobia is in itself anti-Semitic.

    Sorry, who has? Looked back through the thread but can't figure it out.

    Melanie Phillips in her column in the Jewish Chronicle (which Stephen Pollard has now defended publishing).
  • This is an unpopular thing to say, but I think Remainers played a large part in this Leave victory. I'm a Remainer myself, but even I got tired of three years of being told that Leavers were stupid racists.
  • This is an unpopular thing to say, but I think Remainers played a large part in this Leave victory. I'm a Remainer myself, but even I got tired of three years of being told that Leavers were stupid racists.

    The argument needed to be turned round for accuracy: with very few exceptions, the stupid and the racists were for Leaving the EU. The selfish were there too, but that trait has been encouraged for so long that it is recognised as a virtue.
  • HugalHugal Shipmate
    This is an unpopular thing to say, but I think Remainers played a large part in this Leave victory. I'm a Remainer myself, but even I got tired of three years of being told that Leavers were stupid racists.

    And many Remainers got fed up with Remoaners, not believing in Britain and bloody project fear. The latter was much better done by leave.
  • sionisais wrote: »
    This is an unpopular thing to say, but I think Remainers played a large part in this Leave victory. I'm a Remainer myself, but even I got tired of three years of being told that Leavers were stupid racists.

    The argument needed to be turned round for accuracy: with very few exceptions, the stupid and the racists were for Leaving the EU. The selfish were there too, but that trait has been encouraged for so long that it is recognised as a virtue.

    That's exactly the sort of statement that caused the trouble. How many times have I heard, "I'm not saying all Leavers are racist, but all racists are Leavers"? Even if it were true, all it did was piss Leavers off.
  • If there were ever a case of "sore winners" it was leave voters.
  • Yes, you won, get over it.
  • If you can.

    The Black Breath of Boris blows over all...
  • sionisais wrote: »
    This is an unpopular thing to say, but I think Remainers played a large part in this Leave victory. I'm a Remainer myself, but even I got tired of three years of being told that Leavers were stupid racists.

    The argument needed to be turned round for accuracy: with very few exceptions, the stupid and the racists were for Leaving the EU. The selfish were there too, but that trait has been encouraged for so long that it is recognised as a virtue.

    That's exactly the sort of statement that caused the trouble. How many times have I heard, "I'm not saying all Leavers are racist, but all racists are Leavers"? Even if it were true, all it did was piss Leavers off.

    And there you are: it is demonstrably true. The referendum result blew the gaff on the lie that racism is rare. There is a lot of it about. There is more about now than perhaps the 1930's. Brexit has fuelled it and if the Leavers are pissed off, well it's their own piss that stinks.
  • DafydDafyd Shipmate
    The problem is that much of the time when Leavers complained about how Remainers see them as ignorant or evil, they then went and spoiled it by saying something evil or ignorant.
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