... and great was its fall

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  • I have no knowledge of Hebrew nor of ancient Jewish euphemism. But a trawl round the Internet suggests that the literal meaning of the verse is "nor had his sap fled or ebbed"; this apparently may refer to his "natural life force" in general; or is possibly a suggestion that his skin still appeared moist rather than dry and wrinkly. However other legitimate interpretations may well be available!
  • Indeed they may!

    But I take your point...
    :wink:
  • It seems (the potency thing) rather an odd thing to be mentioning in the context of summing up the guy's life and death. But then, maybe I don't understand, being Y-chromosomally-challenged...
  • The King James Version of Deut 34 v7 (the only True™ translation) reads:

    7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.

    @Telford, what do you believe is meant by 'natural force'?

    General health and fitness. It confuses me as to why he died
  • It seems (the potency thing) rather an odd thing to be mentioning in the context of summing up the guy's life and death. But then, maybe I don't understand, being Y-chromosomally-challenged...

    Truth told, I meant it as fun and poking at the male condition. I got it first in 1960 something, where it is written into James Michener's book The Source. Which is still worth reading BTW. A vast novelized history of a people and their god to present.
  • It seems (the potency thing) rather an odd thing to be mentioning in the context of summing up the guy's life and death. But then, maybe I don't understand, being Y-chromosomally-challenged...

    Truth told, I meant it as fun and poking at the male condition. I got it first in 1960 something, where it is written into James Michener's book The Source. Which is still worth reading BTW. A vast novelized history of a people and their god to present.

    One of my favourite Michener epic novels. I loved the chapter about the Talmud
  • Telford wrote: »
    The King James Version of Deut 34 v7 (the only True™ translation) reads:

    7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.

    @Telford, what do you believe is meant by 'natural force'?

    General health and fitness. It confuses me as to why he died

    Moving the plot along: he'd been told 40 years before he wouldn't enter the Promised Land, like most of the exodus.
  • Pendragon wrote: »
    Telford wrote: »
    The King James Version of Deut 34 v7 (the only True™ translation) reads:

    7 And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.

    @Telford, what do you believe is meant by 'natural force'?

    General health and fitness. It confuses me as to why he died

    Moving the plot along: he'd been told 40 years before he wouldn't enter the Promised Land, like most of the exodus.

    A good reason for wandering round for 40 years I guess.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    Yikes! heh. Ezekiel 23:20, more or less.
    Ezekiel 23:20 New International Version (NIV):

    << There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. ... >>

    Well, that puts it all out there! Thank you, LC. I had somehow missed that passage.

  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    It seems (the potency thing) rather an odd thing to be mentioning in the context of summing up the guy's life and death. But then, maybe I don't understand, being Y-chromosomally-challenged...
    It definitely seems to be a Guy Thing.... in competition with each other in Certain Ways unto death. Grow up, dudes!

  • Yes, the guys in my kife have lately been manifesting an odd preoccupation with genitalia (read: tis the season for dick jokes)
  • anoesisanoesis Shipmate
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    Yikes! heh. Ezekiel 23:20, more or less.
    Ezekiel 23:20 New International Version (NIV):

    << There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. ... >>

    Well, that puts it all out there! Thank you, LC. I had somehow missed that passage.
    You really need to read it in the KJV to get the full effect... :wink:
    Donkeys are certainly packing for their body size, which may be observed by anyone who has spent a bit of time around them, but quite how you'd get to know detail about the 'issue of horses' before the age of AI is beyond me and I think I'd like it to stay that way...
  • anoesisanoesis Shipmate
    Yes, the guys in my kife have lately been manifesting an odd preoccupation with genitalia (read: tis the season for dick jokes)
    Any good ones?
  • HE who is tired of dick jokes is tired of life. The same goes for farting.
  • Simon Toad wrote: »
    HE who is tired of dick jokes is tired of life. The same goes for farting.

    And farting dicks -- heaven!
  • I recently heard an Inuit folk tale where a hunter accidentally swallowed the tip of his harpoon, where it aggravated his stomach so that he let out a mighty fart, expelling the harpoon tip at such force that he killed an entire pod of narwhals.

    Whereupon the previously luckless hunter was so feted by the women of his tribe that he slept with all of them.
  • Clutches head: And THIS IMHO is the true difference between men and women. There ARE no good dick jokes. There just aren’t. Not that half the human race agrees with me...
  • anoesisanoesis Shipmate
    Clutches head: And THIS IMHO is the true difference between men and women. There ARE no good dick jokes. There just aren’t. Not that half the human race agrees with me...
    :wink: I'm female, and Rowan Atkinson's dirty roll call nearly killed me the first time I heard it...I realise we have strayed very far indeed from the substance of the OP, but as I traversed a newly concreted section of pavement on the way to pick up my kids from school the other day, I happened to look down and see that someone had engraved a very tidy dick and balls into it at precisely the right stage in the setting process to leave an enduring impression, and I found the whole thing oddly comforting. There may be many things I don't understand (tiktok, vaping, shoes designed by Kanye West, Kanye West himself), and the world may be going to hell in a handbasket in seventeen different ways, but some things at least remain constant and predictable...
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    HE who is tired of dick jokes is tired of life. The same goes for farting.
    ...while SHE who is tired of dick jokes and farting is a sane and healthy human being. I agree with @Lamb Chopped: THERE ARE NO GOOD DICK JOKES. It's all terminally immature crap. And farting isn't funny. GROW UP!

  • Rossweisse wrote: »
    GROW UP!

    Matthew 18:3
  • Simon ToadSimon Toad Shipmate
    edited March 2020
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    Simon Toad wrote: »
    HE who is tired of dick jokes is tired of life. The same goes for farting.
    ...while SHE who is tired of dick jokes and farting is a sane and healthy human being. I agree with @Lamb Chopped: THERE ARE NO GOOD DICK JOKES. It's all terminally immature crap. And farting isn't funny. GROW UP!

    Rickie Lee Jones I Wont Grow Up says it all.
    Because growing up's awfuller than all of the awful things that's ever been. I won't grow up. I won't grow up. I won't grow up again.
  • Simon Toad wrote: »
    Rickie Lee Jones I Wont Grow Up says it all.
    Because growing up's awfuller than all of the awful things that's ever been. I won't grow up. I won't grow up. I won't grow up again.
    That would be “Peter Pan, where it’s
    ’Cause growing up is awfuller
    than all the the awful things that ever were.
    I’ll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up,
    No sir!
    :wink:

  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    Moderately topical is the degree to which much of modern power structures are, essentially, a collection of dick jokes.

    To find them funny is dark humour indeed.
  • mousethief wrote: »
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    GROW UP!

    Matthew 18:3

    At least little children have far smaller dicks and are therefore able to wave them less widely.
  • jbohnjbohn Shipmate
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    GROW UP!

    You're not the boss of me!
  • Well, technically, as Hell Host she is. 'Ware the hostly tags!
  • Penises be the human equivalent of the feet of blue-footed boobies.

    Yes, boobies.
  • Wow! Now those feet are truly BLUE!
    :wink:
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    Blue-footed boobies always reminds me of puffins, thanks to zefrank.
  • :lol:

    Some birds (boobies, puffins, ducks, and many others) prove that God has a well-developed sense of humour, no?
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    edited March 2020
    Some birds, yes.
    Ducks, fuck no. Ducks are just horribly wrong. The wrongest wrong.

    Edit: Not only are these links potentially Not Safe For Work, they might be Not Safe For A Meal You Just Ate. Mostly the ducks. Goddamn ducks.
  • I would have sniggered at boobies just to spite Rossweisse, but I already knew about those wonderful birds. Plus, I really like Rossweisse. She's seriously one of my favorite people to read. I think it is her forthright expression.
  • teddybearteddybear Shipmate Posts: 20
    I prefer the guys who were hung like horses.
    Sigh.... don't we all!
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    I thought this was a family website.
  • Nope. It's boobies and bokonon. All the way down.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    RooK wrote: »
    Some birds, yes.
    Ducks, fuck no. Ducks are just horribly wrong. The wrongest wrong.

    Edit: Not only are these links potentially Not Safe For Work, they might be Not Safe For A Meal You Just Ate. Mostly the ducks. Goddamn ducks.

    Much and all as I respect you RooK you are so very wrong about ducks. We have blackscaups here. They are small diving ducks endemic to New Zealand and they are delightful. You look out over a seemingly unpopulated stretch of river and as is by magic they pop up from the depths.

    Canada Geese, on the other hand are revolting and pollute the riverbank with their poo, and breed faster than rabbits.
  • Nope. It's boobies and bokonon. All the way down.

    If your boobies go all the way down you're probably over 70.
  • anoesisanoesis Shipmate
    Huia wrote: »
    Much and all as I respect you RooK you are so very wrong about ducks. We have blackscaups here. They are small diving ducks endemic to New Zealand and they are delightful. You look out over a seemingly unpopulated stretch of river and as is by magic they pop up from the depths.
    Canada Geese, on the other hand are revolting and pollute the riverbank with their poo, and breed faster than rabbits.

    I suspect RooK was alluding to the rapey nature of drakes and probably also their utterly alarming equipment. (I did not watch the video, but my father kept ducks...)

    You are right that black scaup are delightful to watch swimming. Whether they are like other ducks in their, uhh...reproductive habits, I couldn't say.
  • MooMoo Kerygmania Host
    Huia wrote: »
    Canada Geese, on the other hand are revolting and pollute the riverbank with their poo, and breed faster than rabbits.

    There has been a great population explosion among Canada geese. They are spreading pollution everywhere. They have completely taken over some ponds and lakes, so that people can no longer swim in them.

  • I think for us the greylag geese are the bigger issue.
  • The Episcopal Ark is sometimes visited by ducks (mallards, mostly), though the population seems to have decreased in recent years.

    The behaviour of the drakes is...umm...interesting, if unseemly, as @RooK says. The quacking made by a female being attacked is VERY LOUD...especially at four o'clock in the morning...

    OTOH, swans are flourishing - we have 2 local pairs, who produced 3 and 5 cygnets respectively last year. Hopefully, there will be a similar number this year (these birds seem to be very territorial, and don't stray far from 'their' reach of the River).

    I like swans - not only are they beautiful, and elegant, birds, but they clean the weed from the waterline of the Ark most efficaciously.

    Is it just me, or are we a bit off-topic now?
  • RooK wrote: »
    Moderately topical is the degree to which much of modern power structures are, essentially, a collection of dick jokes.

    To find them funny is dark humour indeed.

    This must be somebody's cue to paraphrase that old quote: the sad thing about dick jokes is that they keep getting elected.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    mousethief wrote: »
    Matthew 18:3
    At least half of little children do not find dick jokes remotely funny. Only those with Y chromosomes are that obnoxious.


  • Rossweisse wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Matthew 18:3
    At least half of little children do not find dick jokes remotely funny. Only those with Y chromosomes are that obnoxious.

    You're not lilBuddha; don't argue like her. The point was that being like a child is not a Christian flaw.
  • Poop jokes are also common; I've not detected anything that tells me they aren't general for children. Also insults. Calling some one a "poopy bum" isn't nice, but it has been the cause of unrestrained giggling in preschoolers. My memory also contains references to potatoes in this context.
  • Scatological humour was quite popular in Society in the 18thC, I am told. Young Mr Mozart was particularly good at it, but he wasn't the only one!
  • anoesisanoesis Shipmate
    edited March 2020
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Matthew 18:3
    At least half of little children do not find dick jokes remotely funny. Only those with Y chromosomes are that obnoxious.
    Look, you can like dick jokes or you can not like dick jokes - that's fine. But when you start proclaiming an entire subset of the population "obnoxious" due to the sheer fact of their maleness - that's worse than obnoxious.

    Or was it a joke?
  • anoesis wrote: »
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Matthew 18:3
    At least half of little children do not find dick jokes remotely funny. Only those with Y chromosomes are that obnoxious.
    Look, you can like dick jokes or you can not like dick jokes - that's fine. But when you start proclaiming an entire subset of the population "obnoxious" due to the sheer fact of their maleness - that's worse than obnoxious.

    Or was it a joke?

    A joke about dicks, or the lack of them...
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    Look at @Rossweisse , swinging her huge, girthy metaphor.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    anoesis wrote: »
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Matthew 18:3
    At least half of little children do not find dick jokes remotely funny. Only those with Y chromosomes are that obnoxious.
    Look, you can like dick jokes or you can not like dick jokes - that's fine. But when you start proclaiming an entire subset of the population "obnoxious" due to the sheer fact of their maleness - that's worse than obnoxious.

    Or was it a joke?

    Partially. (But I really do get tired of Guy Humor, and assumptions that the entire population finds it hilarious.)
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