The Italian (mainly Sicilian) growers of the Lea Valley started off by growing cucumbers, branching out into peppers after WWII. The UK's largest glasshouse for peppers is on the site of the WWII fighter airfield at Tangmere in Sussex.
Never heard of the drink, but we we have red-eye gravy here (the American South), which is made from the drippings of country ham and black coffee, and is typically served with ham or grits.
It's not so much the taste of tomato juice as the texture; it reminds me of... plasma.
The only time I would drink it is on an aeroplane (remember those) when they offer the Complementary Beverage (remember those) and the minuscule snack. Tomato juice with Worcester and celery salt.
I don't believe the honourable shipmate from Canada mentioned "good" beer. If what he had was Molson's or Labatt's, it's not like adding tomato juice to it would make it much worse.
I don't believe the honourable shipmate from Canada mentioned "good" beer. If what he had was Molson's or Labatt's, it's not like adding tomato juice to it would make it much worse.
Other than I'm not very honourable, yes. Generic beer isn't harmed by adulteration. You may add some Tabasco sauce to a Red Eye if that tickles your fancy.
Probably few of you have had a caesar either: clamato juice (tomato and clam juice), vodka, hot sauce, worcestershire sauce. A stick of celery or a pickle for garnish. Popular enough that Lucky Bastard makes a dill pickle vodka .
Other than I'm not very honourable, yes. Generic beer isn't harmed by adulteration. You may add some Tabasco sauce to a Red Eye if that tickles your fancy.
Probably few of you have had a caesar either: clamato juice (tomato and clam juice), vodka, hot sauce, worcestershire sauce. A stick of celery or a pickle for garnish. Popular enough that Lucky Bastard makes a dill pickle vodka .
Why not add gefilte fish to make it really repulsive?
Look, I know Saskatoon is wierd. It's got temperatures of minus 172 degrees at the height of summer and everyone has a walk on fridge in order to keep warm and the entire population could fit inside a passport photo booth.
If that wasn't bad enough they mix beer and tomato juice.
This thread shouldn't be about whether Americans and British speak a different language, it ought to be about how NoProfit inhabits a completely different planet to the rest of us.
There must surely be someone somewhere who likes tomato juice?
There is - me - but I'm definitely sceptical about mixing it with beer. And I managed to spend 16 years in Canada without having a Caesar, although I did have a taste of one once, and it wasn't nearly as repulsive as I'd imagined.
Like Firenze, I find it's often what I want to go with those silly little bags of pretzels* on the plane.
* I appreciate that they have to eschew peanuts in case of allergic reactions, but I do rather miss them.
My apologies to the Heavenly hosts - I've strayed a bit from the topic here.
There's a store called Lee Valley in Canada. Sells high gadgets, tools and garden stuff.
Re drinks from above. Does any other locale have the drink called a "red eye"? Half beer, half tomato juice.
Texas has a Red Eye Bloody Mary Mix. Usually, the hot sauce is very hot.
They also talk about a Red Eye Beer which is half beer, half tomato juice, and a dash of hot sauce.
Then there is this
Texas Red-Eye
The burning sensation in one's balloon knot after dropping a fire dookie. This extremely painful sensation is usually caused by power drinking while on a bender or extremely spicy food. Also may be caused by not properly cleaning after swamp ass.
Hmmmm. I wonder if tomato and beer *soup* might work better? With an artisan grilled cheese sandwich. And a pile of German fries--either the very long shoestring type, or the slab/wedge type.
Eh. I wouldn't eat taramasalata or chocolate cake.
I know. The latter of those makes me very weird, but I just don't like it. Or chocolate ice cream.
Do you need an exorcism? Long range is half price.
Thanks, but I’m quite content with my peculiar possession. There are some chocolate things I like, but generally speaking chocolate just doesn’t do much for me; it’s definitely not something I crave.
As I tell my family and friends, it means more chocolate for them.
Well, I had them on a long-ago trip to Germany. Might well have been served in Austria, too. Came out piled on big platters for people at the table to share.
Hence, "German fries". When I wrote the original post, I almost called them "German French fries"!
I'm still having trouble with the German "fries". What was different about them - something in the cooking of them or just that you were served a large platter of chips in Germany?
What I'm really having trouble with though is the "artisan grilled cheese sandwich" - what on earth is that?
What I'm really having trouble with though is the "artisan grilled cheese sandwich" - what on earth is that?
“Artisan bread” and “artisan sandwiches” have become A Thing in the States. I think it’s supposed to mean foods (in this case, bread and cheese) made in relatively small quantities using traditional methods, rather than factory-produced. But as best I can tell, it’s mainly marketing-speak that means you pay more for them.
Nick Tamen, I’m another who’s not keen on chocolate, although I make an exception for Hotel Chocolat, especially for their white chocolate, their mojitos, their raspberry, their straw berry cheesecake......
Otherwise, most chocolate, or “chocolate flavour “, just tastes brown. Very few chocolatey things actually taste of chocolate.
mild hostly concern @Piglet tried to get the thread back on track! It didn't work, did it? So, let's get back to our original path.
(BTW, there's nothing stopping someone from starting a thread on disgusting beverages!)
Oh, and @Gamma Gamaliel , I suspect you were being lighthearted in your post about NOprophet_NØprofit , but in a text based medium, I could be wrong. It's probably best not to write something that might be construed as an attack on a Shipmate.
What I'm really having trouble with though is the "artisan grilled cheese sandwich" - what on earth is that?
“Artisan bread” and “artisan sandwiches” have become A Thing in the States. I think it’s supposed to mean foods (in this case, bread and cheese) made in relatively small quantities using traditional methods, rather than factory-produced. But as best I can tell, it’s mainly marketing-speak that means you pay more for them.
I think we can agree that on this, both languages are the same. 'Artisan' on both sides of the Atlantic is an adjective shoved onto things to mean you're supposed to think they were handcrafted at dawn by someone who served a long, long apprenticeship and really, really loves you, but actually means it costs more, and probably looks a bit tacky round the edges.
My pet example in that genre of marketing-speak is the use of English counties as a prefix for 'ham'. Yorkshire Ham. Wiltshire Ham. Suitably remote ruralities where contented pigs wander the Fells /Downs before painlessly transmuting into the six slices of pinkness in the packet before you.
What about Yorkshire Tea? Are we supposed to assume that the tea bushes are lovingly tended by comely Yorkshire lasses in local costume, carefully picking the tea leaves one by one?
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Re drinks from above. Does any other locale have the drink called a "red eye"? Half beer, half tomato juice.
With you on the beer and tomato juice, but taramasalata without chocolate cake? Heathen!
I know. The latter of those makes me very weird, but I just don't like it. Or chocolate ice cream.
The only time I would drink it is on an aeroplane (remember those) when they offer the Complementary Beverage (remember those) and the minuscule snack. Tomato juice with Worcester and celery salt.
Still sounds disgusting.
I don't believe the honourable shipmate from Canada mentioned "good" beer. If what he had was Molson's or Labatt's, it's not like adding tomato juice to it would make it much worse.
It would make thin fizzy tomato juice.
Probably few of you have had a caesar either: clamato juice (tomato and clam juice), vodka, hot sauce, worcestershire sauce. A stick of celery or a pickle for garnish. Popular enough that Lucky Bastard makes a dill pickle vodka .
Look, I know Saskatoon is wierd. It's got temperatures of minus 172 degrees at the height of summer and everyone has a walk on fridge in order to keep warm and the entire population could fit inside a passport photo booth.
If that wasn't bad enough they mix beer and tomato juice.
This thread shouldn't be about whether Americans and British speak a different language, it ought to be about how NoProfit inhabits a completely different planet to the rest of us.
Like Firenze, I find it's often what I want to go with those silly little bags of pretzels* on the plane.
* I appreciate that they have to eschew peanuts in case of allergic reactions, but I do rather miss them.
My apologies to the Heavenly hosts - I've strayed a bit from the topic here.
Texas has a Red Eye Bloody Mary Mix. Usually, the hot sauce is very hot.
They also talk about a Red Eye Beer which is half beer, half tomato juice, and a dash of hot sauce.
Then there is this
Urban Dictionary
Do you need an exorcism? Long range is half price.
Thanks, but I’m quite content with my peculiar possession. There are some chocolate things I like, but generally speaking chocolate just doesn’t do much for me; it’s definitely not something I crave.
As I tell my family and friends, it means more chocolate for them.
Hence, "German fries". When I wrote the original post, I almost called them "German French fries"!
What I'm really having trouble with though is the "artisan grilled cheese sandwich" - what on earth is that?
Otherwise, most chocolate, or “chocolate flavour “, just tastes brown. Very few chocolatey things actually taste of chocolate.
@Piglet tried to get the thread back on track! It didn't work, did it?
(BTW, there's nothing stopping someone from starting a thread on disgusting beverages!)
Oh, and @Gamma Gamaliel , I suspect you were being lighthearted in your post about NOprophet_NØprofit , but in a text based medium, I could be wrong. It's probably best not to write something that might be construed as an attack on a Shipmate.
Thank you!
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We're getting "artisanal" as well as "artisan".
FWIW, the interwebs are telling me that German fries are fries with other ingredients like bacon, onion or peppers.
Would that be cultural appropriation?
Oh you mean dirty fries!