@Telford your problem is not that you say things that others disagree with, but that you mostly refuse to acknowledge what they are saying, or to provide any support for your assertions, which when it's repeated behaviour amounts to a lack of respect.
You show hardly any indication of listening to what others have to say. Listening does not require agreement. People are responding to you because they are in fact listening to what you say and trying to respond to it. Their respect runs out when you don't respect that, and you find yourself called here.
If there were no disagreement on the Ship, the threads would be a lot shorter than they are.
There's plenty of disagreement but it is, for the most part, respectful disagreement. It's like a pleasant argument over a pint, not like a shouting match over a barricade.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
A few years back I got a text message from John Cleese explaining who a particular company would be able to reclaim the 1000s of quid I was owed from mis-sold PPI. I just can't imaging Karl being complicit in such unsolicited marketing ploys.
Pssst! Excuse me, please: when does the fish-slapping dance start? And will the lumberjacks participate? And will Tom Hanks be here?*
*He participated, almost anonymously, in the "A Concert For George" memorial for Beatle George Harrison. He was dressed as a Mountie, in among other Mounties. I *think* it might've been for the Lumberjack song.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
What Karl is, is a person who understands the relationship between individual cases and systemic issues a hell of a lot better than someone who doesn't understand why the protests still continue.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
Hello, my name is Telford and I've learnt nothing.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
You could try thinking about what caused that outburst instead of playing the victim card. The statement @KarlLB quoted fully deserved it, and that's what Hell is designed to accommodate.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
You could try thinking about what caused that outburst instead of playing the victim card. The statement @KarlLB quoted fully deserved it, and that's what Hell is designed to accommodate.
It was plain to me that the post was made purely to impress other posters and get lots of praise
What Karl is, is a person who understands the relationship between individual cases and systemic issues a hell of a lot better than someone who doesn't understand why the protests still continue.
I understand protests. What troubles me is people making excuses for looting and gratuitous violence. Let's spare a thought for small business people who have had their businesses and homes destroyed.
That is the exact opposite of what you said in the post for which you were recalled here. You said I don't know what they are protesting about. Do you still not know?
What Karl is, is a person who understands the relationship between individual cases and systemic issues a hell of a lot better than someone who doesn't understand why the protests still continue.
I understand protests. What troubles me is people making excuses for looting and gratuitous violence. Let's spare a thought for small business people who have had their businesses and homes destroyed.
And you're literally prioritising property over people's lives here. You. Don't. Understand. Protests.
Let's spare a thought for small business people who have had their businesses and homes destroyed.
Yes. Let's.
Oh, right: they have motherfucking insurance and will be absolutely fine. It's not like business is booming right now, so there won't even be much loss of income.
You not only do not understand protests, you don't even understand small business.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
Get over yourself. I am so sick of people spewing bullshit and then playing the victim when they're called on their bullshit. So sick.
Look, you're entitled to free speech and so is everyone else. And I'm using mine to point out that you are (still) talking bollocks.
Either find some coherent arguments or apologise and move on. Your whining just makes you look pathetic. You are not getting this from multiple posters because you are being bullied, but simply because you are wrong. Or rather you display ignorance and complete lack of insight in your posts.
You are the problem. No one can help you with that except you.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
I'm not taking offence, but you are talking bullshit.
However, dismissing the generations-long oppression of black people at the hands of white people as "not knowing what they're protesting about" is highly offensive and that's why we are obeying Commandment 4 and calling you on it here. All the more so in that you then try to deflect and pretend that's not what you said at all. My belief in your good faith is dwindling fast.
When protesting turns to violence and looting, it is not legitimate.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
I'm not taking offence, but you are talking bullshit.
However, dismissing the generations-long oppression of black people at the hands of white people as "not knowing what they're protesting about" is highly offensive and that's why we are obeying Commandment 4 and calling you on it here. All the more so in that you then try to deflect and pretend that's not what you said at all. My belief in your good faith is dwindling fast.
When protesting turns to violence and looting, it is not legitimate.
You slimy toad, that's not what you said or why you were recalled here by @KarlLB . You said you didn't understand why they were protesting. Your chief sin at this point is not owning that statement.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
I'm not taking offence, but you are talking bullshit.
However, dismissing the generations-long oppression of black people at the hands of white people as "not knowing what they're protesting about" is highly offensive and that's why we are obeying Commandment 4 and calling you on it here. All the more so in that you then try to deflect and pretend that's not what you said at all. My belief in your good faith is dwindling fast.
When protesting turns to violence and looting, it is not legitimate.
You slimy toad, that's not what you said or why you were recalled here by @KarlLB . You said you didn't understand why they were protesting. Your chief sin at this point is not owning that statement.
I will refrain from insulting you because that's not what I do. I said that the protest was supposed to be about the killing of a black man by a Police officer. The officer has been arrested and he has been charged with murder.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
I'm not taking offence, but you are talking bullshit.
However, dismissing the generations-long oppression of black people at the hands of white people as "not knowing what they're protesting about" is highly offensive and that's why we are obeying Commandment 4 and calling you on it here. All the more so in that you then try to deflect and pretend that's not what you said at all. My belief in your good faith is dwindling fast.
When protesting turns to violence and looting, it is not legitimate.
You slimy toad, that's not what you said or why you were recalled here by @KarlLB . You said you didn't understand why they were protesting. Your chief sin at this point is not owning that statement.
I will refrain from insulting you because that's not what I do.
No, you do it all the fucking time. The drivel you spout is an insult to the intelligence of every other poster on this board.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
Can you name any other situations where the authorities ignored the killing of black men by police officers and took no action ? Do you remember feeling offended about that ?
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
They've taken the minimum possible action. One of four officers who were accomplices in the murder has been charged. Why not the other three? What about an investigation of whether this was a form of restraint that officers were trained in, and if so why train police to assault people like that? Why not a review of training to improve awareness of race issues for all officers, and to equip the police with the skills of de-escalation that will reduce the frequency of these events?
The reason the protests continue is that the action taken so far is far too inadequate to even address the issues of justice for George Lloyd, let alone address the systemic injustices people of color live with everyday. It doesn't take a genius to see that.
And you are wronger than a wrong thing, @Telford Like room temperature IQ wrong.
It is about the fact that this happens again and again and again with nauseating regularity. And follows the same pattern:
1. White man, often with gun, often but not always cop, kills black man;
2. A crappy excuse is given;
3. After much publicity and display of public anger, someone is finally charged;
4. Some negative aspects of the victim are aired as if that gives people the right to act as executioner on the streets,
5. Once everything's quietened down, the killers are acquitted.
I will refrain from insulting you because that's not what I do. I said that the protest was supposed to be about the killing of a black man by a Police officer. The officer has been arrested and he has been charged with murder.
You didn't say that. You're still squirming and deserve all the epithets you get. You didn't say what the protest was supposed to be about. You said:
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
Now are you going to own that statement or retract it? Because that's what you were called down here for, and that is what you are consistently refusing to own.
And before you try and claim what you said isn't really what you meant, and given your current enthusiasm for throwing Ship's commandments around, perhaps you'd like to consider Commandment 2. Engage brain before posting message.
And before you try and claim what you said isn't really what you meant, and given your current enthusiasm for throwing Ship's commandments around, perhaps you'd like to consider Commandment 2. Engage brain before posting message.
I think I have just spotted the underlying problem. Telford simply doesn't have the equipment.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
They've taken the minimum possible action. One of four officers who were accomplices in the murder has been charged. Why not the other three? What about an investigation of whether this was a form of restraint that officers were trained in, and if so why train police to assault people like that? Why not a review of training to improve awareness of race issues for all officers, and to equip the police with the skills of de-escalation that will reduce the frequency of these events?
The reason the protests continue is that the action taken so far is far too inadequate to even address the issues of justice for George Lloyd, let alone address the systemic injustices people of color live with everyday. It doesn't take a genius to see that.
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
His name is Floyd by the way.
I would never protest about a crime by commiting crimes against others
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
Complete and utter bollocks. The vast majority of the protests are peaceful (unless you count shouting slogans and chants as 'unpeaceful'), and the vast majority of protesters would oppose the looting and mindless destruction of private property - though they'd likely see less problems with throwing gas grenades fired at them back at the police and other violent action against the police that fire into crowds of peaceful protesters.
Yes, there are criminal elements taking advantage of the protests as they provide cover for looting. There seems to be evidence that there are groups who oppose people of color trying to claim their rights who are destroying businesses to attempt to harm the BLM cause, or even incite civil war. Those who have a just cause to take to the streets to protest are not responsible for what others do.
Bullshit. You won't respond to clear evidence of your disingenuousness. And nobody here is posting in their capacity as Crew. (If they had been, you would be breaching Commandment 6 in your above post).
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
The key word there is "easily". Avoid acting offended over minor things. But, if we're not offended by police murdering a man for the "crime" of not noticing the $20 in his wallet was possibly counterfeit while being black ... well, then there's something wrong with us. And, if we get told that that, on top of thousands of other people murdered by police and others for being black, is not something that should lead to protests is almost as offensive.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
They've taken the minimum possible action. One of four officers who were accomplices in the murder has been charged. Why not the other three? What about an investigation of whether this was a form of restraint that officers were trained in, and if so why train police to assault people like that? Why not a review of training to improve awareness of race issues for all officers, and to equip the police with the skills of de-escalation that will reduce the frequency of these events?
The reason the protests continue is that the action taken so far is far too inadequate to even address the issues of justice for George Lloyd, let alone address the systemic injustices people of color live with everyday. It doesn't take a genius to see that.
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
His name is Floyd by the way.
I would never protest about a crime by commiting crimes against others
FUCK YOU. You take his name out of your mouth.
The protests are ongoing because the police keep killing Black people with no repercussions. So the head lyncher was arrested; first time for everything. He hasn't gone to trial, he hasn't been convicted, his henchmen are still loose, the fucking department is still a hotbed of white supremacists (see Bob Kroll), when the protests started the cops SHOT FUCKING RUBBER BULLETS straight into a crowd of protesters, people are getting teargassed, journalists are being targeted, WHITE SUPREMACISTS are moving into Minnesota to fan the flames, Lake Street was destroyed by provocateurs, and a few cops were arrested. The protests aren't ending anytime soon. Looting is so not the fucking problem.
I would never protest about a crime by commiting crimes against others
Once again, your initial assertion had nothing to do with crime. It expressed your apparent inability to comprehend why anybody was protesting, not looting. Continuing to dodge that is further evidence of your bad faith.
Besides, you have clearly not integrated that in plenty of places, simply driving while black is for all intents and purposes considered a crime, or at least enhanced suspicion of one.
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
So "I don't know what they are protesting about" means "they are protesting mostly as a cover for looting"? When journalists trying to cover the event are being arrested live on TV, and clearly not looting anything, I think there's plenty to protest about.
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
I would never protest about a crime by commiting crimes against others
Okay, so let's take this at face value. You've seen yet another of your community killed deliberately - over the course of 8-9 minutes, unarmed, restrained, defenceless - by a policeman, while 3 other policemen look on and deter the watching crowd from intervening with threats of violence.
So, at least 4 people should be charged with Murder One here, and yet only one of them has been charged - eventually - with Murder Three. And the only reason that happened is because people protested, because originally, nothing was done.
So you press on. You want this to stop, once and for all, for all the people in your community to be treated as equals, the same as the people policing your community. While you're doing that, the police - who aren't law enforcement at this point, they're the counter-protesters, the same very heavily armed, state-sanctioned, act-with-impunity people you're protesting about - go on the rampage, shooting indiscriminately, arresting whoever, committing acts of arson, violence, vandalism at will, and there's no one to stop them. Except you, and your community. You're on your own. You, church leaders, reporters, you're all fair game - shot at, gassed, arrested, the police don't care whether you've done nothing, something, or anything. They're out of control.
The police are protesting about a crime (which they committed) by committing crimes against others.
And ... you have nothing to say about that, because you can't see it, because you don't want to see it, because you have everything invested in the status quo, and nothing in the change people want to see.
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You show hardly any indication of listening to what others have to say. Listening does not require agreement. People are responding to you because they are in fact listening to what you say and trying to respond to it. Their respect runs out when you don't respect that, and you find yourself called here.
If there were no disagreement on the Ship, the threads would be a lot shorter than they are.
You are complete and utter moron. You would fail a job interview to be a village idiot. You would be inducted into the Ancient and Deranged Order of the Cockwomble, except you'd be too thick to find your way to the ceremony even if it had a hundred foot high sign saying Deranged Order Of The Cockwomble Initiation Tonight and people set every ten yards to point you in the right direction. If you had another brain cell you'd still not manage a synapse because the one you have is a repurposed gut bacterium from a terminally flatulant Water Buffalo.
And, God give me strength, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
It's a wonder your density doesn't cause a black hole wherever you go.
:notworthy:
Hmmm... I think he might be. Now you say that and I think back over his many post, it certainly fits.
Either way I will hear Cleese from now on whenever I read one of Karl's posts!!!
AFZ
John Cleese is far more of an arsehole than KarlLB.
Although the comparison has been made when I get frustrated at work - "Look! It's perfectly simple!"
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqki
Pssst! Excuse me, please: when does the fish-slapping dance start? And will the lumberjacks participate? And will Tom Hanks be here?*
*He participated, almost anonymously, in the "A Concert For George" memorial for Beatle George Harrison. He was dressed as a Mountie, in among other Mounties. I *think* it might've been for the Lumberjack song.
I hope you enjoyed typing that because you are just a pathetic bully.
Nope. Just fed up with idiots.
And New Towns in Shropshire?
Hello, my name is Telford and I've learnt nothing.
You could try thinking about what caused that outburst instead of playing the victim card. The statement @KarlLB quoted fully deserved it, and that's what Hell is designed to accommodate.
It was plain to me that the post was made purely to impress other posters and get lots of praise
I understand protests. What troubles me is people making excuses for looting and gratuitous violence. Let's spare a thought for small business people who have had their businesses and homes destroyed.
But I only value heated expressions of opinion when they're miiiine.
[/TELFORD voice]
That is the exact opposite of what you said in the post for which you were recalled here. You said I don't know what they are protesting about. Do you still not know?
And you're literally prioritising property over people's lives here. You. Don't. Understand. Protests.
Yes. Let's.
Oh, right: they have motherfucking insurance and will be absolutely fine. It's not like business is booming right now, so there won't even be much loss of income.
You not only do not understand protests, you don't even understand small business.
I refer you to commandment 5...Do not be easily offended.
Get over yourself. I am so sick of people spewing bullshit and then playing the victim when they're called on their bullshit. So sick.
Look, you're entitled to free speech and so is everyone else. And I'm using mine to point out that you are (still) talking bollocks.
Either find some coherent arguments or apologise and move on. Your whining just makes you look pathetic. You are not getting this from multiple posters because you are being bullied, but simply because you are wrong. Or rather you display ignorance and complete lack of insight in your posts.
You are the problem. No one can help you with that except you.
AFZ
A list of my sins would be helpful.. Please include numbers
When protesting turns to violence and looting, it is not legitimate.
I'm not taking offence, but you are talking bullshit.
However, dismissing the generations-long oppression of black people at the hands of white people as "not knowing what they're protesting about" is highly offensive and that's why we are obeying Commandment 4 and calling you on it here. All the more so in that you then try to deflect and pretend that's not what you said at all. My belief in your good faith is dwindling fast.
I will refrain from insulting you because that's not what I do. I said that the protest was supposed to be about the killing of a black man by a Police officer. The officer has been arrested and he has been charged with murder.
I would certainly be offended if the the authorities ignored the killing and took no action.
No, you do it all the fucking time. The drivel you spout is an insult to the intelligence of every other poster on this board.
Can you name any other situations where the authorities ignored the killing of black men by police officers and took no action ? Do you remember feeling offended about that ?
The reason the protests continue is that the action taken so far is far too inadequate to even address the issues of justice for George Lloyd, let alone address the systemic injustices people of color live with everyday. It doesn't take a genius to see that.
It is about the fact that this happens again and again and again with nauseating regularity. And follows the same pattern:
1. White man, often with gun, often but not always cop, kills black man;
2. A crappy excuse is given;
3. After much publicity and display of public anger, someone is finally charged;
4. Some negative aspects of the victim are aired as if that gives people the right to act as executioner on the streets,
5. Once everything's quietened down, the killers are acquitted.
There are some protests but with the killer cop in prison charged with murder and the others will be dealt with , I don't know what they are protesting about
Now are you going to own that statement or retract it? Because that's what you were called down here for, and that is what you are consistently refusing to own.
And before you try and claim what you said isn't really what you meant, and given your current enthusiasm for throwing Ship's commandments around, perhaps you'd like to consider Commandment 2. Engage brain before posting message.
The main reason they continue is a cover for looting.
His name is Floyd by the way.
I would never protest about a crime by commiting crimes against others
Yes, there are criminal elements taking advantage of the protests as they provide cover for looting. There seems to be evidence that there are groups who oppose people of color trying to claim their rights who are destroying businesses to attempt to harm the BLM cause, or even incite civil war. Those who have a just cause to take to the streets to protest are not responsible for what others do.
FUCK YOU. You take his name out of your mouth.
The protests are ongoing because the police keep killing Black people with no repercussions. So the head lyncher was arrested; first time for everything. He hasn't gone to trial, he hasn't been convicted, his henchmen are still loose, the fucking department is still a hotbed of white supremacists (see Bob Kroll), when the protests started the cops SHOT FUCKING RUBBER BULLETS straight into a crowd of protesters, people are getting teargassed, journalists are being targeted, WHITE SUPREMACISTS are moving into Minnesota to fan the flames, Lake Street was destroyed by provocateurs, and a few cops were arrested. The protests aren't ending anytime soon. Looting is so not the fucking problem.
Edited for grammar, if you can believe that.
Besides, you have clearly not integrated that in plenty of places, simply driving while black is for all intents and purposes considered a crime, or at least enhanced suspicion of one. So "I don't know what they are protesting about" means "they are protesting mostly as a cover for looting"? When journalists trying to cover the event are being arrested live on TV, and clearly not looting anything, I think there's plenty to protest about.
Okay, so let's take this at face value. You've seen yet another of your community killed deliberately - over the course of 8-9 minutes, unarmed, restrained, defenceless - by a policeman, while 3 other policemen look on and deter the watching crowd from intervening with threats of violence.
So, at least 4 people should be charged with Murder One here, and yet only one of them has been charged - eventually - with Murder Three. And the only reason that happened is because people protested, because originally, nothing was done.
So you press on. You want this to stop, once and for all, for all the people in your community to be treated as equals, the same as the people policing your community. While you're doing that, the police - who aren't law enforcement at this point, they're the counter-protesters, the same very heavily armed, state-sanctioned, act-with-impunity people you're protesting about - go on the rampage, shooting indiscriminately, arresting whoever, committing acts of arson, violence, vandalism at will, and there's no one to stop them. Except you, and your community. You're on your own. You, church leaders, reporters, you're all fair game - shot at, gassed, arrested, the police don't care whether you've done nothing, something, or anything. They're out of control.
The police are protesting about a crime (which they committed) by committing crimes against others.
And ... you have nothing to say about that, because you can't see it, because you don't want to see it, because you have everything invested in the status quo, and nothing in the change people want to see.