Freedom - Purgatory Host Ruling

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  • orfeoorfeo Shipmate
    edited June 2020
    Look, if you think that using "blind" as a perjorative is ableist, have the consistency to think that using "I see" as a positive is similarly ableist.

    As is, by this logic, calling someone visionary or calling an idea about the future a vision.

    As is talking about foresight. Or hindsight. Or insight.

    Of course, I've yet to see much evidence that this logical conclusion occurs to people. It's instructive that the issue is only worried about when blindness is mentioned, not when sight is mentioned approvingly.
  • Language isn't logical. Welcome to real life.
  • orfeoorfeo Shipmate
    mousethief wrote: »
    Language isn't logical. Welcome to real life.

    And yet, people have been trying very hard to analyse and pass judgement on someone's use of words.
  • BoogieBoogie Shipmate
    Context is everything.
  • Plus how language is used and whether it is offensive changes over time.

    There have been plenty of words relating to disability used as pejoratives, that were commonly and 'inoffensively' used in the past. That has rightly been challenged and culture has changed around those words.

    I would not be surprised if at some point in the future a more enlightened society seriously questions whether the use of words like 'blind', 'dumb', 'deaf', 'crazy', 'mad', 'insane' etc. should be used they are today.
  • orfeoorfeo Shipmate
    edited June 2020
    That really has nothing to do with enlightenment. It has to do with an endless cycle of worrying about words and their meaning which has occurred many times over the centuries. And which never gets RID of perjoratives because language needs them. It just shifts what they are.

    Personally I find this particular concern weirdly wrong headed in some ways, but Styx is not the place for expanded discussion as to why.
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    orfeo wrote: »
    That really has nothing to do with enlightenment. It has to do with an endless cycle of worrying about words and their meaning which has occurred many times over the centuries. And which never gets RID of perjoratives because language needs them. It just shifts what they are.

    Personally I find this particular concern weirdly wrong headed in some ways, but Styx is not the place for expanded discussion as to why.

    Sounds like it would make a good topic in Purgatory, though.
  • orfeoorfeo Shipmate
    Ruth wrote: »
    orfeo wrote: »
    That really has nothing to do with enlightenment. It has to do with an endless cycle of worrying about words and their meaning which has occurred many times over the centuries. And which never gets RID of perjoratives because language needs them. It just shifts what they are.

    Personally I find this particular concern weirdly wrong headed in some ways, but Styx is not the place for expanded discussion as to why.

    Sounds like it would make a good topic in Purgatory, though.

    Yes. Considering if I can find an effective way of framing it.

    But as I’m just recovering from a migraine, I’m currently a little less ABLE to construct ideas than I’m normally ABLE to do...
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