then there's this guy: Jerry Falwell junior
NOprophet_NØprofit
Shipmate
in Hell
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-falwell-relationship/
Is there something special about him. Or something special about a certain variety of evangelicals?
Is there something special about him. Or something special about a certain variety of evangelicals?
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Ewww....
"The best people"
Er, to which "him" do you refer?
So the sex is a matter between Jerry Falwell, Jr., Becki Falwell, and whatever "special guest stars" they want to include, providing everyone is a consenting adult.
The hypocrisy is between Falwell and anyone who trusted him to instill moral values to their kids at his mis-named university (or anyone else who regarded him as a moral exemplar).
The fraud, on the other hand, is a matter between Falwell, his various donors, and the IRS. "Fun" fact: If you use tax-exempt donation money to buy your wife's latest boy toy a youth hostel, it counts as tax fraud.
Trump's fixer, Michael Cohen, allegedly "fixed" stuff for the Falwells too. Maybe a stash of incriminating/embarrassing photos would explain Jerry Falwell, Jr.'s enthusiastic embrace of Trump in 2016.
Falwell Jr.
Write your own joke about there being three sources.
(Translation notes. Cf., in such matters, Cherchez la femme - Look for the woman; my paraphrase, Look for the cabana boy.)
I really don't care what people get up to in their off hours, so long as they're not spending their on hours judging what other people get up to in their off hours. Had it been Larry from accounting, Betty from the hospital, and Giancarlo their cabana boy, I wouldn't care. It's not the Falwell's 'celebrity' that commands my attention - it's the rank hypocrisy with which they indulge in the sort of behaviour they condemn publicly and thereby have a negative impact on the lives of others.
This is another one of those cases of something being attributed to Trump that's really just a coninuation of the Republican standard operating procedure. Falwell sr. was an enthusiastic ally of past Republican presidents going back to Reagan in the 1980s. Though I think Trump's connection with junior is viewed as being a little more personal.
There have got to be photos to disprove this.
I was wondering if quetzcoatl's post was some sort of joke making the rounds. Because, yes, there certainly are photos of Falwell and Trump together, most notoriously the one with the Playboy cover in the background.
This one? https://tinyurl.com/y42ehc7o
I dunno. If I were a pool boy I think I might go to the room next door.
Sorry, meant to be a joke.
Yep, that's the one.
In fairness, I suppose, Falwell sr. ended up doing a lecture tour with his erstwhile nemesis Larry Flynt(look it up on YouTube), so there's apparently a precedent at Liberty Baptist for open socializing with porn-affiliated individuals.
However, the home life of the Duke of York may be a different matter.
LOL ...
However ... remember Heisenberg ...
If you have the position you don't have the momentum, and if you have the energy you don't have the time? Seems applicable.
And every time you start to feel a little bit sorry for Jerry Falwell, Jr. he reminds you of what a tool he is.
Later, during the Fundamentalist Preacher Scandals, he was asked o assume temporary leadership of "Heritage USA" after Jim and Tammy Bakker got caught in some $$fraud$$$ ...
At first, the plan/hope was to have Brother Jimmy Swaggart do that duty but he famously declined, "I'm not in the water slide business ..." (and of course Brother Swaggart got caught dallying with hookers
It seems two unattached adults committing to each other for a monogamous loving relationship = God angry, because they happen to be of the same sex. But adulterous screwing about with a teenage lad = God not so angry, because at least the jigsaw pieces are apparently more biologically lined up. Also an incident strangely lacking in the kind of placarding and protests one gets used to when Christians like to protest about the kind of sex that they don't approve of. One might almost be tempted to think that some kind of double standard was in operation.
As @Anselmina says 'Cue repentance narrative, tears and all the usual crap associated with this now familiar scenario.'
Do they still think people are fool enough to believe them?
Yes, they do - because some people are fool enough...
Caught using both. [blushing emoji]
I'll get me coat, wot I ain't not seen not this week...
May I gently suggest that, given the frequency with which you need to get your coat, you might be best advised not to take it off in the first place?
(Sorry - silly tangent time...).
*ahem*
Back to the subject of the thread, and the egregious denizens of Evo-Land across the Pond, I still find it hard to credit that anyone with a brain-cell or two actually trusts in, or believes, what they say and preach.
How many cases like this will it take before the penny drops? I suppose that even if you realise that you've been fooled - to the extent, perhaps, of parting with a lot of $$$ - it's hard to admit that you've been conned...
It's called "cognitive dissonance" ...
No, it's called not caring. At its root American white evangelicalism* is about white patriarchy. The rules and restrictions espoused by such people are not meant to apply to people like Jerry Falwell, Junior or Senior. Give it about six months of Falwell in the wilderness and he'll be invited back.
*Evangelicals who see their evangelicalism through the lens of their whiteness, not evangelicals who happen to be white, though it should be noted that the majority of American evangelicals who happen to be white also see their evangelicalism through the lens of their whiteness.
I’m afraid I haven’t been too tempted at all to feel sorry for him. But I have to admit that his abhorrent misuse of that quote strengthens my suspicion that he wanted to be caught and that he wanted out of the mold Daddy set for him.
I have known many many American "Evangelicals" through several decades ...
They're NOT all "white" and into "white-ness" a part of their faith (although many ARE) ...
I've followed The Falwell Phenomena for a long time
that THAT isn't entirely about "white"-ness either ...
It IS very much about a world view deeply held
and a theology -- Independent Fundamental Baptist ...
I thought it means they can enjoy a fantasy world, preferable to ordinary reality. See under Brexit, or MAGA.