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  • RussRuss Shipmate
    amybo wrote: »
    I'm genuinely curious...

    I believed you, amybo. More fool me...
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    This combination I refer to as "victim culture" - the notion that victims can do no wrong. But you may have a better name...
    Isn't the phrase victim culture better reserved for you and your beliefs?
    It's a phenomenon, whatever we call it. I've given you the opportunity to suggest a more neutral name if you want. If you choose not to reply, don't complain about my usage.

    And no, I don't believe that victimhood is particularly interesting. I argue for universal principles and common humanity.
    After all you're alleging without evidence the idea that white men are being victimised and treated unjustly.
    You're confusing me with someone else - I don't post about white men or black men. I post about moral principles and standards of behaviour.
    And you're claiming that there's no evidence of systematic racism or sexism:
    Never said that. If you were prepared to define your terms I might well agree that such things exist.
    ...that white men as victims of the left can't engage in systematic injustice.
    Anyone can be unjust. Systematically or otherwise. But it seems like white men are at least as divided as any other group...
  • amyboamybo Shipmate
    Russ wrote: »
    amybo wrote: »
    I'm genuinely curious...

    I believed you, amybo. More fool me...

    I read your responses.
  • amybo wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    amybo wrote: »
    I'm genuinely curious...

    I believed you, amybo. More fool me...

    I read your responses.
    Making sense of them is a different issue.

  • ArethosemyfeetArethosemyfeet Shipmate
    edited October 2020
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    amybo wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    amybo wrote: »
    I'm genuinely curious...

    I believed you, amybo. More fool me...

    I read your responses.
    Making sense of them is a different issue.

    Making sense of them would do irreparable damage to their substance and character.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    edited October 2020
    amybo wrote: »
    ...Yes, I agree. And I think the fear of losing their identity is operating for both men and women who oppose feminism and the societal changes feminists advocate and work for.
    Ruth wrote: »
    Yes, I agree. And I think the fear of losing their identity is operating for both men and women who oppose feminism and the societal changes feminists advocate and work for.

    Yes to both of these. I had to learn about the reality of racism and all it carries with it from friends' recounting their experiences, and from observation. But I've certainly had ample first-hand experience of sexism.
  • DafydDafyd Shipmate
    Russ wrote: »
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Isn't the phrase victim culture better reserved for you and your beliefs?
    It's a phenomenon, whatever we call it. I've given you the opportunity to suggest a more neutral name if you want. If you choose not to reply, don't complain about my usage.
    You keep asserting that it's a phenomenon on the left. Assertions do not suffice to prove existence.

    On the other hand, it seems all the posters on this thread who've expressed an opinion, and not only the usual suspects, agree that "victim culture" is an accurate characterisation of your position.
    And no, I don't believe that victimhood is particularly interesting. I argue for universal principles and common humanity.
    No, you don't. You're just canting.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    edited October 2020
    Dafyd wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    And no, I don't believe that victimhood is particularly interesting. I argue for universal principles and common humanity.
    No, you don't. You're just canting.
    Agreed, Dafyd. Thank you.
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