Does reality have a left-wing bias?

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  • DafydDafyd Shipmate
    I notice that neither Makepiece nor Russ has complained about the BBC forbidding its employees to express politically contentious opinions outside work.
  • orfeoorfeo Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    mousethief wrote: »
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    But let's be honest enough not to label as liberty those legal protections that we approve of.

    I'm pretty sure that's all libertarianism is, labeling legal protections you approve of (e.g. legally enforceable property rights, contracts, etc.) as liberty and those you don't (e.g. equality under the law for gay people) as cruel despotism.

    "Legal protections" means "guaranteeing rights". And what's more libertarian than rights?

    Libertarianism: the philosophy that anyone who stops me from doing what I want is wrong, and the State damn well better do its part in keeping other people out of my way.
  • orfeo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Crœsos wrote: »
    Russ wrote: »
    But let's be honest enough not to label as liberty those legal protections that we approve of.

    I'm pretty sure that's all libertarianism is, labeling legal protections you approve of (e.g. legally enforceable property rights, contracts, etc.) as liberty and those you don't (e.g. equality under the law for gay people) as cruel despotism.

    "Legal protections" means "guaranteeing rights". And what's more libertarian than rights?

    Libertarianism: the philosophy that anyone who stops me from doing what I want is wrong, and the State damn well better do its part in keeping other people out of my way.

    I was appealing to the description on the tin. I know what's inside.
  • Penny S wrote: »
    As I understand it, if you run over a dog, you are required to notify the owner. Not if you run over a cat. Also, if your somehow acquire someone else's dog, you are required to return it - it would be theft. If you acquire someone else's cat, you cannot be required to return it. This happened to a friend of mine, whose acquisition of a feline who decided to join their household was challenged by the previous "owner". Apparently, a cat is defined as a "creature of the night" and not deemed to have an owner. which seems very cognisant of the cat's view of things, but might be a problem applied to some expensive pedigreed one.

    Cats are legally property and stealing them is an offence:


    https://www.cats.org.uk/media/1024/eg13_cats_and_the_law.pdf

    I can find no reference to "creature of the night" as a legal status.

  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Penny S wrote: »
    As I understand it, if you run over a dog, you are required to notify the owner. Not if you run over a cat. Also, if your somehow acquire someone else's dog, you are required to return it - it would be theft. If you acquire someone else's cat, you cannot be required to return it. This happened to a friend of mine, whose acquisition of a feline who decided to join their household was challenged by the previous "owner". Apparently, a cat is defined as a "creature of the night" and not deemed to have an owner. which seems very cognisant of the cat's view of things, but might be a problem applied to some expensive pedigreed one.

    That may be part of UK or English law, but it sounds very much like an old wive's tale.
  • Gee D wrote: »
    Penny S wrote: »
    As I understand it, if you run over a dog, you are required to notify the owner. Not if you run over a cat. Also, if your somehow acquire someone else's dog, you are required to return it - it would be theft. If you acquire someone else's cat, you cannot be required to return it. This happened to a friend of mine, whose acquisition of a feline who decided to join their household was challenged by the previous "owner". Apparently, a cat is defined as a "creature of the night" and not deemed to have an owner. which seems very cognisant of the cat's view of things, but might be a problem applied to some expensive pedigreed one.

    That may be part of UK or English law, but it sounds very much like an old wive's tale.

    It is not UK law - see my post immediately above yours.
  • By observation, "Reality" is *biased* in favor of variation ... The "Right" wing ("Conservative") desire to keep everything (most things) in a static "TODAY"(as yesterday) is un-Realistic ...
  • That is very interesting. I only purveyed what I had been told. My friend got to keep the cat. It wouldn't stay in its previous habitation.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    Gee D wrote: »
    Penny S wrote: »
    As I understand it, if you run over a dog, you are required to notify the owner. Not if you run over a cat. Also, if your somehow acquire someone else's dog, you are required to return it - it would be theft. If you acquire someone else's cat, you cannot be required to return it. This happened to a friend of mine, whose acquisition of a feline who decided to join their household was challenged by the previous "owner". Apparently, a cat is defined as a "creature of the night" and not deemed to have an owner. which seems very cognisant of the cat's view of things, but might be a problem applied to some expensive pedigreed one.

    That may be part of UK or English law, but it sounds very much like an old wive's tale.

    It is not UK law - see my post immediately above yours.

    Perhaps I should have put "may" in italics - in the same manner as if you were speaking, you'd emphasise it to point out how unlikely it is that the point is correct..
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