Here in Sask, the premier ate at a restaurant and is on quarantine for 14 days.
The Public Health Act gives the government the power to tell the Chief Medical Health Officer what to do, with past premier-CMHO news conferences being dissected this morning about how they've contradicted each other.
The news conference scheduled for yesterday was delayed until today. The speculation is that this for 2 reasons. First because the premier wants his test results before it, Second, that the neighbouring Alberta had a news conference yesterday, Alberta funds the premier's political party, and the previous premier now lives in Alberta, where conservative politicians migrate to blame all of their problems on the prime minister. So this premier wants to do what Alberta tells him to.
Saskatchewan is following Alberta and Manitoba down the sewer of conservative idiocy, endangerment, infections, and death. I like to be forgiving, but when politicians have the experts and the information, they're not able to excuse themselves that they didn't know. The gov't here knew they needed to do something 7 weeks ago, and just one week ago decided that masks should be worn in communities over 5000 people only, and that restaurants, churches, bingo halls, pubs could stay open, though stop serving alcohol at 10pm.
Why is it that conservative governments are so bloody wrong? And not understanding that it is public health and the economy not versus. Hate and spitting mad, and then I need no double my dose of blood pressure medication.
Meanwhile, in Boris Island, scientists, and groups representing and supporting those families already bereaved by Ye Pestilence, warn of the dangers of our bonkers *government* plan for festive family feasting at Winterfest/Yule/Xmas.
Prepare a family meal, but prepare for a funeral, too...
IOW, the fantasy Christmas may lead to a third wave of Covid-19 in the early part of 2021, which is not really what most people want, I think.
Meanwhile, in Boris Island, scientists, and groups representing and supporting those families already bereaved by Ye Pestilence, warn of the dangers of our bonkers *government* plan for festive family feasting at Winterfest/Yule/Xmas.
Prepare a family meal, but prepare for a funeral, too...
IOW, the fantasy Christmas may lead to a third wave of Covid-19 in the early part of 2021, which is not really what most people want, I think.
Meanwhile, in Boris Island, scientists, and groups representing and supporting those families already bereaved by Ye Pestilence, warn of the dangers of our bonkers *government* plan for festive family feasting at Winterfest/Yule/Xmas.
The "bonkers" plan permits up to three households to join together. If someone in that festive gathering is infectious, then everyone is going to get it, so instead of sharing their virus with the people they live with, they'll share it with up to two other households as well.
But the thing that really matters for virus spread is the web of connections between people. If your people are arranged in "pods" with only weak connections outside the pod (eg. masked trips to the supermarket) then the virus doesn't spread fast between pods. It will spread rapidly within the pod, of course, but overall virus incidence in these conditions scales linearly with pod size.
By contrast, virus incidence scales exponentially with the size of your contact group if those contacts are distributed throughout the community and not shared with your household / pod.
Basically, if you accept that people are going to have some level of social contact (and break the rules to do so if necessary) then you do much better to have them socialize as family groups, rather than having each individual spend time with their personal friends.
Here (Ontario) we are in a modified lockdown until 21 December. I fully expect that it will (and probably should be) extended, to vocal displeasure.
rather, "here (Toronto and its environs)". Other parts of the province are in diferent states, some of which might loosely be described as partial lockdowns, others not.
Why is it that conservative governments are so bloody wrong? And not understanding that it is public health and the economy not versus. Hate and spitting mad, and then I need no double my dose of blood pressure medication.
Not all conservative governments. Here in Australia, we have been fortunate that our conservative national government and state governments of all shades have followed the science. Apart from a small current outbreak in South Australia, and following the suppression of the major outbreak in Victoria, we have no community transmission, and the few active cases are all returned travellers currently in quarantine. No-one in intensive care, no-one on ventilators.
Thanks be to God for the triumph of science and commonsense over ideology.
Whereas here in Los Angeles County health officials estimate that 1 in 145 of us is currently infectious, and we're on trend to run out of hospital beds in two to four weeks.
Took Mr. Image to our doctor today, and he was very pleased with Mr. Image's improvement. He did however make a point by telling us not to leave the house for the next 8 weeks or so unless absolutely necessary and also have no one in our house. He said a new upswing in the number of cases means, stay at home. I assured him we had been doing that all along. Again as we were leaving he said, "Please shelter in place."
Sorry you went through that. Glad Mr. Image is doing better.
As for the doctor: sometimes, doctors just don't listen or don't hear what you say. I also know, from experience, that someone who has to say the same thing over and over again kind of goes into automatic mode, and says it whether or not it applies in a particular situation.
My cousin called a couple of weeks ago to let me know that she, my uncle and her daughters all had the virus. They were all doing well and getting their senses of taste and smell back. Well today, she had to take my uncle to the emergency room and they admitted him. He was having trouble breathing and very disoriented and very tired, which is not at all like him. Uncle T is a very fit and active person.
The really bad thing is that her sons' other grandfather died from Covid yesterday after being sick for just one week. Now their remaining grandfather is in the hospital.
I don't have to say it. You all know it. I'm going to say it anyway. This horrible disease needs to go right to hell.
Mr Beaky is still in hospital and I'm not allowed to visit.
Little Beaky is in Tier 4 and they are not allowed to travel or be visited.
I'm feeling somewhat bereft this morning.
I blame our government as much as I blame the virus.....
Thank you for your support! Uncle T has been on oxygen and breathing treatments and doing better this morning. The family hopes he can go home with oxygen today. I'm sure the hospital needs all the beds they can get.
Just heard from my cousin. Uncle T is home! My cousin is a nurse, so I'm glad she was paying attention and knew to get him right into the hospital. She's home with her family and her younger brother is staying with their dad. A relief for sure!
Thank you, God for Jedi Judy's Uncle T being home. Prayers continuing for his convalescence. Mrs. Beaky, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Please know you and your family are in my prayers as soon as I post this.
I'm back - having discovered that the reason for the huge, slowly moving queue was that the cheese shop take your order, ignore it until you come to pick it up, try and find what the order was, then make it up out of the cheeses they have in the shop.
As opposed, you know, to the other thing. But I do have tea, and I don't have the 'rona over Christmas.
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The Public Health Act gives the government the power to tell the Chief Medical Health Officer what to do, with past premier-CMHO news conferences being dissected this morning about how they've contradicted each other.
The news conference scheduled for yesterday was delayed until today. The speculation is that this for 2 reasons. First because the premier wants his test results before it, Second, that the neighbouring Alberta had a news conference yesterday, Alberta funds the premier's political party, and the previous premier now lives in Alberta, where conservative politicians migrate to blame all of their problems on the prime minister. So this premier wants to do what Alberta tells him to.
Saskatchewan is following Alberta and Manitoba down the sewer of conservative idiocy, endangerment, infections, and death. I like to be forgiving, but when politicians have the experts and the information, they're not able to excuse themselves that they didn't know. The gov't here knew they needed to do something 7 weeks ago, and just one week ago decided that masks should be worn in communities over 5000 people only, and that restaurants, churches, bingo halls, pubs could stay open, though stop serving alcohol at 10pm.
Why is it that conservative governments are so bloody wrong? And not understanding that it is public health and the economy not versus. Hate and spitting mad, and then I need no double my dose of blood pressure medication.
Meanwhile, in Boris Island, scientists, and groups representing and supporting those families already bereaved by Ye Pestilence, warn of the dangers of our bonkers *government* plan for festive family feasting at Winterfest/Yule/Xmas.
Prepare a family meal, but prepare for a funeral, too...
IOW, the fantasy Christmas may lead to a third wave of Covid-19 in the early part of 2021, which is not really what most people want, I think.
Scary Christmas to everyone!
(re meds, hallucinogens required)
The "bonkers" plan permits up to three households to join together. If someone in that festive gathering is infectious, then everyone is going to get it, so instead of sharing their virus with the people they live with, they'll share it with up to two other households as well.
But the thing that really matters for virus spread is the web of connections between people. If your people are arranged in "pods" with only weak connections outside the pod (eg. masked trips to the supermarket) then the virus doesn't spread fast between pods. It will spread rapidly within the pod, of course, but overall virus incidence in these conditions scales linearly with pod size.
By contrast, virus incidence scales exponentially with the size of your contact group if those contacts are distributed throughout the community and not shared with your household / pod.
Basically, if you accept that people are going to have some level of social contact (and break the rules to do so if necessary) then you do much better to have them socialize as family groups, rather than having each individual spend time with their personal friends.
Yes, ISWYM - I suppose that, after all, there's really no avoiding some sort of spread of Ye Pestilence at Xmas (whowas X, by the way?).
Still, not a particularly cheering prospect.
Son of God. Nice guy. Hopefully you'll get to meet him sometime. Called by some Χριστος which abbreviates to X.
I thought it might be He...
(...but I hate the use of X instead of Christ...)
The trouble is that X as in Xmas always reminds me of those horrible algebra classes at skool, where X = the unknown...
That would be 𝑥 surely?
Probably. I wasn't much good at Algy Bra (or any other kind of maths).
I do, as it happens. Call me inconsistent if you like.
rather, "here (Toronto and its environs)". Other parts of the province are in diferent states, some of which might loosely be described as partial lockdowns, others not.
Not all conservative governments. Here in Australia, we have been fortunate that our conservative national government and state governments of all shades have followed the science. Apart from a small current outbreak in South Australia, and following the suppression of the major outbreak in Victoria, we have no community transmission, and the few active cases are all returned travellers currently in quarantine. No-one in intensive care, no-one on ventilators.
Thanks be to God for the triumph of science and commonsense over ideology.
Truly it feels like the work of the devil.
I am so sorry to hear that, it must be so distressing for you.
I still have the circulatory side effects of my long covid from March.
Sorry you went through that. Glad Mr. Image is doing better.
As for the doctor: sometimes, doctors just don't listen or don't hear what you say. I also know, from experience, that someone who has to say the same thing over and over again kind of goes into automatic mode, and says it whether or not it applies in a particular situation.
FWIW, YMMV.
The really bad thing is that her sons' other grandfather died from Covid yesterday after being sick for just one week. Now their remaining grandfather is in the hospital.
I don't have to say it. You all know it. I'm going to say it anyway. This horrible disease needs to go right to hell.
Little Beaky is in Tier 4 and they are not allowed to travel or be visited.
I'm feeling somewhat bereft this morning.
I blame our government as much as I blame the virus.....
This.
(and Mr Beaky and Little Beaky and the family too)
It's been 40 minutes so far and it's fucking freezing.
As opposed, you know, to the other thing. But I do have tea, and I don't have the 'rona over Christmas.
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