What Virtual Christmas Services Will You Be Watching?

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  • One thinks of such Chapels as resounding with beautiful choral singing - what happened this year?
    Er ... not much!

  • I rather thought so...a great shame, but it can't be helped, I guess.
    :disappointed:
  • There were a couple of pre-recorded carols from previous years.

    We still have to watch last Sunday's episode, which promises Greater Things ...
  • O dear. I wish FatherInCharge had used pre-recorded carols at this morning's service. I watched part of it on FarceBark, and a dozen people slowly mumbling Angels from the realms of glory through facemasks just does NOT work...

    If you know the usual tune, you'll understand my meaning...
    :grimace:
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    If you know the usual tune, you'll understand my meaning...
    :grimace:
    I think the usual tune on your side of The Pond may be different from the usual tune on my side. :wink:

    And having read what The Wiki says about the usual tune on your side, I’m having trouble working out how the words of the refrain fit the tune.

    We still have no one in the church other than clergy (2), organist, one singer and the camera/sound folk (1 or 2). The service is streamed, with the one singer handling all the hymns, sung responses, and the like. Folks at home can sing along or just listen as they please.

  • Nick Tamen wrote: »
    If you know the usual tune, you'll understand my meaning...
    :grimace:
    I think the usual tune on your side of The Pond may be different from the usual tune on my side. :wink:

    And having read what The Wiki says about the usual tune on your side, I’m having trouble working out how the words of the refrain fit the tune.


    oh that's simple - any apparently superfluous notes are used to extend the vowel sound in "come" to an excessive and eye-watering degree (about 10 beats, but feels longer).
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    Sorry @Nick Tamen - yes, a tune often sung in England AFAIK is the French/Flemish carol tune Iris. It's easy enough (said he), as long as you take a deep breath before warbling the refrain!

    As @Arethosemyfeet indicates...

    Here it is, sung by the choir of Canterbury Cathedral, with the Gloria in excelsis Deo refrain - the Come and Worship refrain fits well, too.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WTR0Ul8R9SI
  • ZappaZappa Ecclesiantics Host
    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    If you know the usual tune, you'll understand my meaning...
    :grimace:
    I think the usual tune on your side of The Pond may be different from the usual tune on my side. :wink:

    And having read what The Wiki says about the usual tune on your side, I’m having trouble working out how the words of the refrain fit the tune.


    oh that's simple - any apparently superfluous notes are used to extend the vowel sound in "come" to an excessive and eye-watering degree (about 10 beats, but feels longer).

    aka "An Extended Wobble"
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    No, no - *Warble*...

    Either way, Madam Sacristan was not impressed with the masked mumbling, and I understand that She Has Spoken Severely to Father....
  • Sorry @Nick Tamen - yes, a tune often sung in England AFAIK is the French/Flemish carol tune Iris. It's easy enough (said he), as long as you take a deep breath before warbling the refrain!
    Yes, we know that tune well; it’s the tune to which we sing “Angels We Have Heard on High,”where the refrain is “Gloria in Excelsis Deo!.”

    This is the tune we sing “Angels from the Realms of Glory[/url] to.



    Nick Tamen wrote: »
    If you know the usual tune, you'll understand my meaning...
    :grimace:
    I think the usual tune on your side of The Pond may be different from the usual tune on my side. :wink:

    And having read what The Wiki says about the usual tune on your side, I’m having trouble working out how the words of the refrain fit the tune.

    oh that's simple - any apparently superfluous notes are used to extend the vowel sound in "come" to an excessive and eye-watering degree (about 10 beats, but feels longer).
    It’s actually the words after “Come” that I’m having trouble imagining how to fit.

  • Ah - in the first bit you sing Come and worship, Christ the new-born King, and in the second bit you sing Come and worship, worship Christ the new-born King.

    As to your tune, Regent Square - well-known here, too (Light's abode, celestial Salem), and indited by one Henry Smart (1813-1879), an English composer and organist...
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    edited December 2020
    Ah - in the first bit you sing Come and worship, Christ the new-born King, and in the second bit you sing Come and worship, worship Christ the new-born King.
    Ah, thanks. The refrain is different when sung to Regent Square—“Come and worship, Come and worship, Worship Christ the newborn king.” That’s what was throwing me, trying to fit those words to Iris (known as Gloria here).

    As to your tune, Regent Square - well-known here, too (Light's abode, celestial Salem), and indited by one Henry Smart (1813-1879), an English composer and organist...
    I think we may have discussed this before. That text seems to be pretty much unknown here save among Episcopalians. They sing it to Rhuddlan or to a plainsong melody, though, not to Regent Square.

  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    The words that immediately come to mind to me for Regent Square are 'Look ye saints the sight is glorious, see the Man of Sorrows now' although it is a good general purpose tune.
  • Also "Fill your hearts with joy and gladness".
  • BroJames wrote: »
    The words that immediately come to mind to me for Regent Square are 'Look ye saints the sight is glorious, see the Man of Sorrows now'
    Also "Fill your hearts with joy and gladness".
    Neither of those texts is familiar to me. A quick look at a number of American hymnals didn’t turn up any that included “Fill Your Heart with Joy and Gladness,” and only four (older Episcopal, Reformed and joint Presbyterian-Reformed hymnals and the current Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod hymnal) that include “Look Ye Saints.” The LC–MS hymnal sets it to Bryn Calafaria, and the older Reformed hymnal (edited by Erik Routley) sets it to Westminster Abbey, though Regent Square is noted as an alternative tune. The other two set it to Coronae.

    Interestingly, that joint Presbyterian-Reformed hymnal was the one I sang out of until I was around 32, but I don’t recall ever singing “Look Ye Saints.”
  • I think of Regent Square as first of all the tune for the Horatius Bonar hymn: "Glory be to God the Father." But also "Fill your hearts with joy and gladness" and "Look ye saints". CH4 also sets it to a Ruth Duck hymn "You are called to tell the story."
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