Cops are always right!
in Hell
Fr Teilhard wrote: »Antisocial Alto wrote: »Fr Teilhard wrote: »Had he submitted to being taken into custody there would have been no problem ...
Two words: Tamir Rice. A twelve-year-old child. The cops pulled up to the playground he was playing at and shot him dead within thirty seconds of arriving at the scene. Justify that one.
Justify Officer Scott Patrick being murdered by Brian Fitch ...
Justify my great uncle -- a town cop -- being murdered when he interrupted a burglary in progress ...
Apparently @Fr Teilhard's tongue is so coated in boot polish that he can't even manage to spit out the words "gunning down a child on a playground is wrong, even when a cop does it."
Fuck off. Fuck off so hard your dick explodes and you die of it and you meet Emmett Till's murderers in hell. And take your gun-happy cop buddies with you.
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His reasons for that are his own. To me they seem to be full of fear and emotion.
He’s wrong. Police should be unarmed and part of their community, set on crime prevention. Not racist murderers given white cowboy hats to cover their evil deeds.
What’s changed is smart phones. Now we can all see what has been happening for years in the US.
LOL ... and may Bless you real good, too ...
Guns ...
My brother, a retired Sheriff's Deputy, never fired a shot, either,
nor did my nephew, recently retired from police work ...
Our great uncle, OTOH, was shot and killed when he interrupted a burglary in progress ...
Yes, there are way more guns in the US. And yes, I know about the Bank of America shoot-out in North Hollywood -- I live in Los Angeles County. (I have an retired cop friend who was not involved only because it happened to be his day off.) It's not realistic to expect cops in the US to do their jobs unarmed.
But they use them too much. The police need to let go of their warrior mentality. Yes, they want to go home safe at the end of the day - but their goal should be for everyone to go home safe at the end of the day, not just themselves.
You might not agree with the reasoning, but it sure as fuck is rational.
This erases any doubt that you actually fucking think about this issue.
You are a worthless piece of shit. People are killed by racist, jackbooted thugs with little accountability and it is the victims to blame.
Good thing you are retired and can no longer poison your congregation. You are a mockery of the clergy.
The prevalence of guns - and people who want to use them to kill people - in the US seems to me a reason why training the police how to de-escalate should be more important, not less.
Our entire society needs deep reform -- not only the way policing is done ...
Our entire society needs to de-escalate ...
Do you by any chance live in the St. Louis area?
Please specify the "half truths" ... ???
Waiting for everyone else to de-escalate before you de-escalate is somewhat missing the point of de-escalation.
I am sure that is true, but a start needs to be made. Why can't the police lead the way in reform?
The problem with the police is far deeper than the problem with society, the fact that society is currently demonstrating against the police should be an indicator.
Now, please answer my questions here and in the Jacob Barker thread in Purgatory.
Thank you.
I don't really know. I was living away when it all happened and wasn't even really aware of it at the time! I suppose they were trying to make the police force more inclusive to Catholics by removing the obvious crown emblem, and the 'Royal Ulster' bit. I do know a few Catholics in the service who had always wanted to be in the police, regardless of name. It would be interesting to know how the recruitment statistics might have changed since the name and uniform were changed.
I'm afraid my own information is a bit anecdotal. I have a Catholic relative who wanted to be a policeman because his Catholic relative was high up in the RUC, as it was then. But then I'm told by others that it was always the way to keep Catholics from the higher positions in the police and the Civil Service; an organization often spoken of derogatorily by many Protestants as a generous employer of Catholics at the expense of Prod applicants, which I have no idea is true or not.
Yeah ...
Just a couple days ago in Minneapolis the MPD was running a *sting* purchase of an illegal gun from a known felon ... When cornered, he began shooting at the officers, who returned fire, killing him ...
Now the anti-Police movement is *up*in*arms* over "another police killing" ...
Michael Brown sucker-punched a police officer, grabbed his gun, causing a shot to be discharged in the cruiser ... Brown ran a short distance away, then came back at the officer ...
Yes, Michael Brown was "out of control" ...
I thought that too, but I figured someone else would handle that misstep more hellishly than I can.
Well ... Ummm ...
You think that ever-buddy should just go*along*to*get*along ... ???
Huh ...
This is what I think ...
It's not a simple matter ...
No, the view is just that you should do research.
Every thread you participate in tends to suggest that you lost track of the world a few decades ago.
I have no idea how you arrived at that from what I said. I’m also not sure what you mean.
LOL ...
No, it just suggests that I have lived for a while ... and have paid close attention ...
(But, huh ... Over in *Purgatory* I have been a vocal critic of everything about Emperor Donald I ... Are you one of his Red Hat disciples ... ???)
You were living for a while, and then you decided that you knew everything and so you stopped learning and fossilized.
On another thread you seem alternately obsessed with several thousand years in the past and the 1980s (though only some parts of the 1980s, interestingly not those parts that were in fact focused on some time after the event).
I was alive in the 1980s too, you know. The difference is that isn't the last time I paid attention to developments.
Recent developments including that the person you came back to this thread to argue with has since died. There was a very prominent pinned thread about it for some time.
I've been in places, in situations, that would make your skin crawl ... You have no idea ...
But I'm realistic about our society ...
As to places you've been, all evidence indicates that you've been living under a rock.
Well, I was OFF "the Ship" for a while so I'm not privy to every memo about everybody ... and I'm not entering a discussion (only) WITH a particular person, but rather ABOUT the question of police practices and needed reforms ...
Since I come from a law enforcement family, I have a dog in this race ...
And, frankly, I don't really care that you want me to be quiet or just go away ...
Asshole, everyone is affected by this to one degree or another, but Black people most of all. Your family members in law enforcement are considerably safer.
And ... the fact that I have a perspective and opinions based upon my own personal knowledge and training and life experience ... makes me an "asshole" ...
See, I think our entire society is in deep trouble and it isn't just because some of the police culture and practices need reform ... (in my opinion) ...
Oh fuck off you tedious shit.
That's code for "pulling opinions out of my arse and writing myself an exemption from having to deal with facts or evidence".
It's getting really hard to figure out which is the greater of your ignorance and your arrogance.
Probably not so popular for funerals though.
LOL ... Well ... That certainly adds to the discussion ...
But again, I think that our entire society is in deep trouble ...
The observed fact that Trump got even more votes in 2020 than in 2016 is, as they say, a telltale sign ... IMHO ...
I wasn't arguing with a particular person, I was expressing -- as I am now -- a point of view ...
LOL ... Actually I commonly get thanks and praise for the funerals I officiate ...
Now we'll add to that by pointing out that you've shown a tendency to post on long dormant threads, adding nothing that couldn't have been said when they were active, and blithely ignoring the fact that in waiting more than 3 months to respond you're now arguing against someone who we lost last year. You're a double wanker for that.