Teargas has been employed in the Senate chamber. Senators remaining were told to lie down and put on the gas masks which are (unbeknownst to me!) under their chairs.
Commentator on TV just posited the theory that Trump's private army of hooligans don't understand about mail-in votes. I wonder if he was trying to indicate that they're illiterate?
Teargas has been employed in the Senate chamber. Senators remaining were told to lie down and put on the gas masks which are (unbeknownst to me!) under their chairs.
Wow. Who knew?
I can’t help wondering who does the annual testing and if Senators get practice drills.
Teargas has been employed in the Senate chamber. Senators remaining were told to lie down and put on the gas masks which are (unbeknownst to me!) under their chairs.
Wow. Who knew?
I can’t help wondering who does the annual testing and if Senators get practice drills.
Would now be a good time to invoke the Act to remove trump?
AIUI, some cabinet members plus VP support are needed but as Pence has been dissed by trump there may be enough to get the bastard out and restore some order.
You can't count on Trump's inner circle to turn on him. Trump should be impeached (again) on the single count of encouraging a violent insurrection against the United States. Let Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley and all those other smarmy assholes be on record as voting against it, if they dare.
CNN is reporting the National Guard of Maryland and Virginia are being activated and are on their way. Also, several thousand DC guards are responding.
They have to rely on the knuckledraggers turning out for them at the next elections or they lose their seats. Leastways, that's the only way I can explain their extraordinary conduct.
Even with the help of the knuckledraggers, voter suppression and other election offences they lost, badly and they can't believe how much further they'd have to go to win.
They think the Democrats must have cheated even worse to have beaten them - that's the only thing that make sense of them claiming it was stolen while being unable to show any evidence.
So the Republican party needs to return to acting as a decent, fair, honest party if they can't win with threats, violence and cheating.
It may be a long game but they should start ASAP by dumping Donald 'BadLoser' Trump and his thugs now.
I agree with your assessment of what they should be doing entirely. What they are in fact doing is utterly cynical and very damaging to American democracy. In fact, it discredits democracy in all places where it is under threat.
What I am attempting is a rational explanation of their bad behaviour. The only one I can think of is that they want to hold on to their Congressional seats. For example, if you are a Republican senator and won your seat by a 51/49 margin, you do need the knuckledraggers to turn out for you, on the basis that other Republican supporters won't desert you. Or imagine if you were a Republican senator in a deep red state and were afraid of getting replaced at the next primary.
Presumably impeachment could pass the Senate vote. Would Pence still have the casting vote? Now he's told trump to get lost as he'll honour the constitution, he might support it and have a short presidency.
(PS I thought the masks drop down - the life jackets are under the seats.)
C-SPAN broke away from their coverage of the Capitol to Biden making an address. It was originally supposed to be about economic policy. As you can guess, he's talking about something else now.
Presumably impeachment could pass the Senate vote. Would Pence still have the casting vote?
In impeachment trials the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides. Apparently it's considered too much of a conflict of interest for the vice president to do so. Conviction by the Senate requires a super-majority of at least two-thirds of the votes cast, so as long as 34 Senators support Trump he could whether the effort. Still, it would be good to get those assholes on record about whether they support insurrection or not.
A 2/3 majority is a lot but surely Republican Senators must (mostly) want to put trump behind them and start afresh with someone competent and sane ready for a future where even with significant cheating they can't win and changing demographics make thing progressively more difficult.
Trump has released a video calling for calm. Being Trump, naturally it was released on Twitter and he spends about 75% of it complaining about how the election was stolen and how life in general is unfair to him, but he did tell everyone to go home. Let's see if his followers listen to the text or subtext.
Trump has released a video calling for calm. Being Trump, naturally it was released on Twitter and he spends about 75% of it complaining about how the election was stolen and how life in general is unfair to him, but he did tell everyone to go home. Let's see if his followers listen to the text or subtext.
Twitter have, apparently, made it impossible to share, like, or respond to the latest infamous *tweets*, owing to a risk of violence.
Not before time, one feels. I wonder whether they'll suspend his account?
Is there a procedural method to remove Trump immediately (not the 25th Amendment)? E.g. vote of the House and the Senate?
Yes, the House could vote to impeach and the Senate could vote to convict. Seth Moulton, a Democratic Congressman from Maine, has already publicly called for this. I called my Congressman's local office and spoke in favor of it.
Just heard: re: National Guard, acting Sec of Defence Christopher Miller announced in contact with Pelosi and Pence... no mention of Trump. Meaningful omission, I think.
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Wow. Who knew?
I can’t help wondering who does the annual testing and if Senators get practice drills.
Good questions!
Latest news is that members of the National Guard are being deployed, so perhaps the insurrection will soon be put down.
You can't count on Trump's inner circle to turn on him. Trump should be impeached (again) on the single count of encouraging a violent insurrection against the United States. Let Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley and all those other smarmy assholes be on record as voting against it, if they dare.
I agree with your assessment of what they should be doing entirely. What they are in fact doing is utterly cynical and very damaging to American democracy. In fact, it discredits democracy in all places where it is under threat.
What I am attempting is a rational explanation of their bad behaviour. The only one I can think of is that they want to hold on to their Congressional seats. For example, if you are a Republican senator and won your seat by a 51/49 margin, you do need the knuckledraggers to turn out for you, on the basis that other Republican supporters won't desert you. Or imagine if you were a Republican senator in a deep red state and were afraid of getting replaced at the next primary.
Red with Brown?
Come on, people. The first rule of any insurrection is coordination!
(PS I thought the masks drop down - the life jackets are under the seats.)
With violence occurring, and the National Guard being deployed, it's possible that lives may be lost.
Yes, because he's still president till Jan 20. They could impeach and convict him and make Pence president for two weeks.
In impeachment trials the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides. Apparently it's considered too much of a conflict of interest for the vice president to do so. Conviction by the Senate requires a super-majority of at least two-thirds of the votes cast, so as long as 34 Senators support Trump he could whether the effort. Still, it would be good to get those assholes on record about whether they support insurrection or not.
And he even apologised gracefully for taking up so much time!
@Ruth - if Trump were arrested today, would there be enough time to get him into jail before the 20th?
Where's Trump at the moment?
A 2/3 majority is a lot but surely Republican Senators must (mostly) want to put trump behind them and start afresh with someone competent and sane ready for a future where even with significant cheating they can't win and changing demographics make thing progressively more difficult.
Or impeach Pence, too--resulting in President Nancy Pelosi for two weeks. I could live with that.
I hear you, BF. Not intending to be callous. Just trying to find an alternative to stressing over an appalling situation I am unable to change.
Possibly because no president-elect has faced sedition on the part of his principal since then.
Twitter have, apparently, made it impossible to share, like, or respond to the latest infamous *tweets*, owing to a risk of violence.
Not before time, one feels. I wonder whether they'll suspend his account?
The Emperor openly pointedly INVITED his Brown Shirts to come to D.C. for the day ... and now he has ordered them, "Now it's time to go home ..."
No ...
Yes, the House could vote to impeach and the Senate could vote to convict. Seth Moulton, a Democratic Congressman from Maine, has already publicly called for this. I called my Congressman's local office and spoke in favor of it.