Break Glass - 2020 USA Elections

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  • Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    sedition
  • CrœsosCrœsos Shipmate
    There's going to be some important documents and hard drives missing. There will certainly have been agents of various other countries present.

    But it's been reported that the electoral vote certificates were carried out of the building by quick thinking Capitol Hill staffers, so at least there's that.
  • Will the Capitol police enforce the curfew which goes into effect right about now? (1800 hours Eastern time)
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Shipmate
    edited January 6
    From the BBC (who have now graduated from describing “scuffles” to “violent pro-trump mob”)

    “US officials have announced that the Capitol Building is now secure.

    Reporters inside the Capitol say lawmakers applauded as the Sergeant at Arms conveyed the news.”
  • I'm reminded of the images of Chile, 11 Sept 1973. It took several months to complete the coup. In this modern age, who knows. Do you think they're actually done? Is trump done? is this a coup or the prelude to one?
  • From the BBC (who have now graduated from describing “scuffles” to “violent pro-trump mob”)

    OTOH They had invited someone on who blamed it all on 'campus cancel culture', so balance has been maintained.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited January 6
    I'm reminded of the images of Chile, 11 Sept 1973. It took several months to complete the coup. In this modern age, who knows. Do you think they're actually done? Is trump done? is this a coup or the prelude to one?

    Who knows, indeed. Mr Biden and Ms Harris will certainly have to work hard to drain the swamp...
  • Leorning CnihtLeorning Cniht Shipmate
    edited January 6
    The woman who was shot in the US Capitol has died. A man who was climbing the scaffold fell off, and is in critical condition.
  • The woman who was shot in the US Capitol has died.

    God receive her soul.
  • AIUI she has not yet been identified (well, publicly), so it's not known which *side* (if any) she may have been on.

    A tragedy for her, and for her family, whatever the circumstances.
  • Meanwhile, Trump continues to assert that he's the victim here: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away."
  • Furtive GanderFurtive Gander Shipmate
    edited January 6
    Don't his supporters ever ask how he knows he won when all the evidence, the vote counts and re-counts, courts and Republican election officials say otherwise?
  • jay_emmjay_emm Shipmate
    The woman who was shot in the US Capitol has died.
    Sad news, especially for her family.
    Even if she was a invader in behalf of trump, she paid a high price. And if a staffer who had no choice, even more sympathy.
  • Some of them believe he's some sort of holy prophet or Second Coming, so they may not question him.
  • I expect Air Force One wouldn't take him all the way to Moscow.

    No. It would drop him over the Bering Sea.

  • Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    DUH!!!
  • I'm reminded of the images of Chile, 11 Sept 1973. It took several months to complete the coup. In this modern age, who knows. Do you think they're actually done? Is trump done? is this a coup or the prelude to one?

    It does appear to be an attempted coup ...
  • Penny S wrote: »
    Before the report of the ieds, I was going to comment on the non-barking dogs around in the footage. By comparison with, for example, our Poll tax demos. The people's flags were on poles which mostly were too flimsy to be used as weapons (I saw one as thick as a broom handle). No-one tried to pull down and use the scaffold poles as weapons. And, given that this is the States, and not Trafalgar Square, I didn't see any of the Trumpists with guns.
    The whole thing was shocking, but it wasn't as shocking as it might have been.

    Fuck that.

    A woman died. Murdered. In the Capitol.

    Two shots to the chest.
  • Penny S wrote: »
    Before the report of the ieds, I was going to comment on the non-barking dogs around in the footage. By comparison with, for example, our Poll tax demos. The people's flags were on poles which mostly were too flimsy to be used as weapons (I saw one as thick as a broom handle). No-one tried to pull down and use the scaffold poles as weapons. And, given that this is the States, and not Trafalgar Square, I didn't see any of the Trumpists with guns.
    The whole thing was shocking, but it wasn't as shocking as it might have been.

    Fuck that.

    A woman died. Murdered. In the Capitol.

    Two shots to the chest.

    It was an attempted coup ... Sedition ...
  • And yes, this was a fucking coup attempt, carried out by assholes with shit for brains and apparently no fucking plan for what happened next. Shit for brains selfie taking treasonweasels.

    We’re gonna need a bigger jail.
  • Penny S wrote: »
    Before the report of the ieds, I was going to comment on the non-barking dogs around in the footage. By comparison with, for example, our Poll tax demos. The people's flags were on poles which mostly were too flimsy to be used as weapons (I saw one as thick as a broom handle). No-one tried to pull down and use the scaffold poles as weapons. And, given that this is the States, and not Trafalgar Square, I didn't see any of the Trumpists with guns.
    The whole thing was shocking, but it wasn't as shocking as it might have been.

    Fuck that.

    A woman died. Murdered. In the Capitol.

    Two shots to the chest.

    Shocking enough, I would have thought.

    I'm reminded of the images of Chile, 11 Sept 1973. It took several months to complete the coup. In this modern age, who knows. Do you think they're actually done? Is trump done? is this a coup or the prelude to one?

    It does appear to be an attempted coup ...

    Yes, which rather begs the question as to what Trump thought he might achieve for himself by rallying the bully-boys? In the end, nothing - except the death of a citizen, and a further loss of face for him...
  • RuthRuth Shipmate
    Penny S wrote: »
    Before the report of the ieds, I was going to comment on the non-barking dogs around in the footage. By comparison with, for example, our Poll tax demos. The people's flags were on poles which mostly were too flimsy to be used as weapons (I saw one as thick as a broom handle). No-one tried to pull down and use the scaffold poles as weapons. And, given that this is the States, and not Trafalgar Square, I didn't see any of the Trumpists with guns.
    The whole thing was shocking, but it wasn't as shocking as it might have been.

    Fuck that.

    A woman died. Murdered. In the Capitol.

    Two shots to the chest.

    Seriously. It was shocking. It continues to be shocking. If you didn't see guns, you weren't looking at the right photos. And I can guarantee you, even if I hadn't seen the photos, there were guns. Lots of them.
  • And yes, this was a fucking coup attempt, carried out by assholes with shit for brains and apparently no fucking plan for what happened next. Shit for brains selfie taking treasonweasels.

    We’re gonna need a bigger jail.

    Profanity and insults ... How charming ...
    What do they say about YOUR "brain" ... ???
  • I'd say passion in the face of this was more understandable than getting sanctimonious, but maybe that's just me.
  • You can just fuck right off with the other weasels. Your ass is showing.
  • Fr TeilhardFr Teilhard Shipmate
    edited January 6
    You can just fuck right off with the other weasels. Your ass is showing.

    LOL ...
    Maybe you can try expressing yourself without the foul language ...
    Would your mother be proud ... ???
  • When I breathe in, I breathe in peace.
    When I breathe out, I breathe out love.

    Be safe, shipmates. This will be over soon.
  • Simon Toad wrote: »
    When I breathe in, I breathe in peace.
    When I breathe out, I breathe out love.

    Be safe, shipmates. This will be over soon.

    I wish so ...
    But the Red Hat Brown Shirts are not going to just drift quietly away ...
    If anything, they will be more fired up than ever ...
  • Fr Teilhard--

    LC is quite capable of speaking up for herself, and I hope she does!

    But if you can't find more to be legitimately upset about in the US today than profanity and insults about what's going on DC, perhaps you're not paying attention.
  • Martin54Martin54 Shipmate
    edited January 6
    Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    sedition

    The treason is by Trump.

    Anyone seen the multiply excellent Bushwick?
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    This is Purgatory. Please remember that personal attacks are out of place here - even in the current very stressful situation. Hell and it’s threads are available if needed.

    BroJames, Purgatory Host
  • Martin54Martin54 Shipmate
    And yes, this was a fucking coup attempt, carried out by assholes with shit for brains and apparently no fucking plan for what happened next. Shit for brains selfie taking treasonweasels.

    We’re gonna need a bigger jail.

    Profanity and insults ... How charming ...
    What do they say about YOUR "brain" ... ???

    Fuck you.
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    edited January 6
    @Martin54 given the timing of our posts I’ll regard yours as a cross-post. Please take heed of my post immediately before yours, and do not repeat.

    BroJames, Purgatory Host
  • Sorry, BroJames.
  • Hey GK, I don't think you were shouting. BroJames, I'm sorry if I spoke out of turn; thanks for your hard work.
  • Martin54 wrote: »
    Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    sedition

    The treason is by Trump.

    Anyone seen the multiply excellent Bushwick?

    "Treason" is defined in the Constitution as giving aid/comfort to the enemies of the United States in time of war ...
    "Sedition," OTOH is attempting an illegal overthrow of the government ...
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Martin54 wrote: »
    Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    sedition

    The treason is by Trump.

    Anyone seen the multiply excellent Bushwick?

    All this violence for the sake of one man's ambition. A patriot would have conceded in November
  • Indeed - but, as you say, it's all about Trump and what HE wants...
  • Amanda B ReckondwythAmanda B Reckondwyth Mystery Worship Editor
    Now that the dust seems to be beginning to settle, what disturbs me the most is the number of Repugnican congresspeople saying things like, "Yes, it was dreadful, but we must persevere with our duty to expose fraud in our elections."
  • That presumes he's capable of patriotism. He's not--except patriotism toward himself.
  • Trump has been given a 12 hour Twitter Timeout.
  • I think that, under the circumstances (unprecedented insurrection) in what claims to be a light unto the world, anger peppered with profanity is a very minor pecadillo. Nice loss of the the plot @Fr Teilhard . Or you couldn't resist a cheap shot even in this context. Shall we adjourn to Hell?
  • Trump has been given a 12 hour Twitter Timeout.

    Does that mean he won't be able to tweet? He'll go bonkers...

    O wait...
  • Martin54Martin54 Shipmate
    BroJames wrote: »
    @Martin54 given the timing of our posts I’ll regard yours as a cross-post. Please take heed of my post immediately before yours, and do not repeat.

    BroJames, Purgatory Host

    My apologies.
  • Martin54Martin54 Shipmate
    Martin54 wrote: »
    Martin54 wrote: »
    This is treason.

    sedition

    The treason is by Trump.

    Anyone seen the multiply excellent Bushwick?

    "Treason" is defined in the Constitution as giving aid/comfort to the enemies of the United States in time of war ...
    "Sedition," OTOH is attempting an illegal overthrow of the government ...

    Point taken. The man's a traitor.
  • Fraud for which in over 60 cases has had no evidence demonstrated. And the Senate is all of a sudden going to find it? The stupid runs real deep.
  • They've got Joe Biden, the upcoming president, saying that the storming of the USA capitol building and all of the angry mob is "not who we are". But is it true? Almost half of "who we are". I'm not sure, but do you think that having a polite person in charge is enough to fix up things? Don't think there's healing until the angry mob is through.

    Notwithstanding that there's wondering if the rioting and storming is finished.
  • DafydDafyd Shipmate
    Nice loss of the the plot @Fr Teilhard . Or you couldn't resist a cheap shot even in this context. Shall we adjourn to Hell?
    I've just opened a thread.

  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    They've got Joe Biden, the upcoming president, saying that the storming of the USA capitol building and all of the angry mob is "not who we are". But is it true? Almost half of "who we are". I'm not sure, but do you think that having a polite person in charge is enough to fix up things? Don't think there's healing until the angry mob is through.

    Notwithstanding that there's wondering if the rioting and storming is finished.
    This mob is a very very tiny percentage of the population. Should be easily dealt with.

  • Indeed - but, as you say, it's all about Trump and what HE wants...

    Trump is a malignant narcissist, a classic psychopath ...
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