Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

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  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I understand the Ring of Brodgar is rather popular for Pagan weddings, Orkney weather notwithstanding.

    Outdoor weddings are all fine and dandy, but they deprive honest organists of their livelihood.
  • I can't quite fathom why anyone wants to get married at all, anywhere, let alone outside...

    (singed) BF - Grumpy Old Git
  • Outside generally makes a bad venue because the acoustics are awful.
  • CathscatsCathscats Shipmate
    Yes, beach weddings, Loch side weddings, and the grim one in Glen Coe when it was sleeting. But not in parks, though they could be. It’s just that most people want to be a bit private. Also the climate..... I have always tried to get them not to be outdoors, but I have done lots in the house where they filmed Monarch of the Glen (and it is Balmoral in The Crown as well). It’s not the location that makes it a religious service.
  • (I've known a number of people in the US get married in back yards for the very practical reason that they have a back yard in which 100 or so chairs can be easily set up, but they inexplicably lack a ballroom or other large space inside their house that is capable of seating 100 people.)
  • Nick TamenNick Tamen Shipmate
    Cathscats wrote: »
    Of course what @Gee D describes is also the Scottish situation, where ministers may take a service more or less anywhere (though the sensible ones would avoid skydives or similar).
    Ditto. Church weddings are still fairly common here (the American South), but outdoor weddings in a variety of settings and weddings in other venues, including homes, are also very common. While some religious traditions may have rules on where weddings can occur, authorized places as a matter of law simply isn’t a thing here.
  • It may be a surprise, but the majority (about 65%) of weddings in Japan are in church. There's a phrase in Japan that translates as "Born Shinto, married Christian, die Buddhist."
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Enoch wrote: »
    Authorised person means, in effect, a registrar, a CofE ordained and licensed clergy person or a non-CofE priest or minister who has been appointed by the registrar as a deputy registrar.
    Authorised persons don’t have to be ministers. In the days when I was a member of a Baptist Church the authorised person was a member of the church who had particularly good handwriting*. She didn’t have to conduct the ceremony, merely witness and record that it had been duly performed. Generally authorised persons are only authorised in respect of a particular building, although they can fulfil that role at other registered buildings provided they are in the same registration district.

    (*This was also the case for a recent RC colleague.)
  • quetzalcoatlquetzalcoatl Shipmate
    A bitter joke going around, Boris presents 4 weddings, and 150, 000 funerals.
  • Barnabas_AusBarnabas_Aus Shipmate
    @Gee D Of our three children, in chronological order we had a church wedding in the town church, a religious wedding with the then Dean of Grafton as celebrant but in a surf clubhouse after the weather kyboshed a botanical garden venue [not sure if the Very Rev DK cleared it with ++Glenn] and finally a civil ceremony in golf club garden but very strongly based on APBA liturgy. We would be the exception to the rule, but perhaps indicative of the trend.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    A good, but rare, record. Of the family I mentioned, 2 of the services were by a minister (think that's the right title) in an evangelical church, the 3rd by the groom's local Anglican rector, very Sydney. As it happens, none was conducted in Sydney diocese.

    Dlet and his young lady are talking about getting married now. Their church attendance is none too regular, but if (!) it goes ahead, the service will be religious. The likely location is the park I've mentioned, with the reception to take place there also. D Towers will probably be the fallback if the weather's not obliging.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 12
    Bozzymandias is performing at the G7 summit as I write, no doubt to the mystification of the leaders of certain sane countries, who are present.

    However, I think the Prime Minister looks very smart in the G7 photos. The pink dress suits her well, but why does she have to drag an overgrown, shambling schoolboy along with her?

    For the avoidance of doubt, this is satire.

    Possibly sexist, too, for which I apologise.
  • PigletPiglet All Saints Host, Circus Host
    I was thinking Mrs. J. was looking rather smart, but like you, couldn't help thinking she could have run a comb through his hair or got him to go to a decent tailor.
  • Piglet wrote: »
    I was thinking Mrs. J. was looking rather smart, but like you, couldn't help thinking she could have run a comb through his hair or got him to go to a decent tailor.

    It's entirely possible that she did both of those things and this was the result.
  • AthrawesAthrawes Shipmate
    Any thoughts on Boris crashing the meeting between Joe Biden and Scott Morrison? It seems quite a protocol breach.
  • He wouldn't know protocol if he was hit over the head with it.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I was thinking Mrs. J. was looking rather smart, but like you, couldn't help thinking she could have run a comb through his hair or got him to go to a decent tailor.

    It's reasonably well known that his messed up hair is an affectation (people have seen him ruffle his hair up before a photo/interview).
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Athrawes wrote: »
    Any thoughts on Boris crashing the meeting between Joe Biden and Scott Morrison? It seems quite a protocol breach.

    Probably, as with Churchill, he had no idea about the Statute of Westminster II and assumed he was entitled to barge in.
  • "Entitled" ... exactly how he (and, several others in his Cabinet) see themselves.
  • Apparently, Lord Frost is wearing Union Jack socks, so all is obviously well with Bozzymandias' Global Britain...
  • TelfordTelford Shipmate
    Piglet wrote: »
    I was thinking Mrs. J. was looking rather smart, but like you, couldn't help thinking she could have run a comb through his hair or got him to go to a decent tailor.

    The PM is far too busy to be doing such things
  • Telford wrote: »
    Piglet wrote: »
    I was thinking Mrs. J. was looking rather smart, but like you, couldn't help thinking she could have run a comb through his hair or got him to go to a decent tailor.

    The PM is far too busy to be doing such things

    Oh the irony. As has been mentioned above; it's well documented that he's actually busy ruffling his look...
  • If you ever see a windswept Johnson, when the carefully ruffled mess is blown awry, then thinning patches and a receding hairline can br glimpsed, which don't go so well with the cultivated boyish exterior.
  • Well, with all the stress and worry of running Global Britain, it's no wonder he's losing it.

    His hair, I mean.

    Re suits, he might do better NOT to try to do up the button(s) - such an effort only emphasises the flab.

  • I suspect that unbuttoning the suit jacket will just allow his large belly to be displayed in all its glory. If you look at men who have big guts the bellies tend to be prominent, like pregnancy bumps, so protrude beyond open jackets unless buttoned to cover said excess poundage.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    I do, sometimes, wonder if he's pregnant. That would account for all these children.
  • Eirenist wrote: »
    I do, sometimes, wonder if he's pregnant. That would account for all these children.

    :scream:
    Pass the brain-bleach, please...
    I suspect that unbuttoning the suit jacket will just allow his large belly to be displayed in all its glory. If you look at men who have big guts the bellies tend to be prominent, like pregnancy bumps, so protrude beyond open jackets unless buttoned to cover said excess poundage.

    True.
    :disappointed:

    Poor chap - we ought to be feeling sorry for him. He seems to have been completely out-staged by the other G7 peeps, most notably President Biden.

  • Sorry to double-post, but the Grauniad reports that President Biden went to Mass at the RC church in St Ives yesterday (arriving a bit late, but hey...).

    Beloved Leader (the wannabe gargoyle) did not make the effort, much to the disgust of one or two in the congregation, who were greatly impressed by the President.

    What a PR opportunity that would have been for Beloved Leader - why, they could have dressed him up as a server, or something!

  • Once the Church has conducted your wedding service then they've served their purpose. Well, until you need someone to say a few nice words when they lay you in the ground anyway.

    Why carry on the pretence of being Catholic?
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 14
    Well, the Mass was at 9am, so perhaps Beloved Leader was still catching up on his beauty sleep...
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Was his tottie - sorry, sacramental wife - there? Bearing in mind how the sycophantic parts of the press have been saying over the last fortnight or so how, whatever he is, she is a practising Catholic.

  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    Sorry to double-post, but the Grauniad reports that President Biden went to Mass at the RC church in St Ives yesterday (arriving a bit late, but hey...).

    It's not a big surprise is it? ISTR that Biden know to be a fairly regular attendee/communicant. I assume the delay might be down to the logistics of getting the Secret Service in and so on.
  • Yesterday we thought we had everyone we were expecting and started our service a few minutes early, only for a member to slip in during the opening music (she was on time, just). At our place it's unusual for anyone to appear less than 5min before the start of the service, and with limited capacity we're not expecting unexpected visitors.

    Maybe Biden was late because no one told the church he was expected and they'd started without him thinking everyone was there.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited June 14
    Sorry to double-post, but the Grauniad reports that President Biden went to Mass at the RC church in St Ives yesterday (arriving a bit late, but hey...).

    It's not a big surprise is it? ISTR that Biden know to be a fairly regular attendee/communicant. I assume the delay might be down to the logistics of getting the Secret Service in and so on.

    O no - not a surprise at all, though the report I read rather implied that Mr Biden's motorcade took a bit of time negotiating the narrow streets of St Ives! Good on him, for making the effort (and what a pleasant surprise it must have been for the faithful, and their priest).
    Enoch wrote: »
    Was his tottie - sorry, sacramental wife - there? Bearing in mind how the sycophantic parts of the press have been saying over the last fortnight or so how, whatever he is, she is a practising Catholic.

    The Prime Minister may have been unable to get into the bathroom whilst her husband Bozzymandias was washing his wig (satire).

    Seriously, though, is weekly attendance at Mass still an obligation for practising Catholics? Even if it is, I guess that for someone like the POTUS, other obligations might sometimes have to come first.

  • Penny SPenny S Shipmate
    There is a picture of Carrie with Wilfred showing off to the other spouses. Wilfred appears to be a Mini-Me of his father.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/13/13/44150207-9681603-Boris_and_Carrie_Johnson_s_one_year_old_son_Wilfred_dazzled_G7_l-a-23_1623586217675.jpg
  • Maybe Biden was late because no one told the church he was expected and they'd started without him thinking everyone was there.

    I understand that security types like their protectees to arrive a little late.

    It does seem a little surprising that "Christian goes to church on Sunday" is news. I certainly try to go while I'm traveling. Sometimes logistics conspire against me, but I often manage it.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    Maybe Biden was late because no one told the church he was expected and they'd started without him thinking everyone was there.

    I understand that security types like their protectees to arrive a little late.

    It does seem a little surprising that "Christian goes to church on Sunday" is news.

    Yes, I have to say I was somewhat pleasantly surprised by the minimum of fuss he made going in and out of the church, and the fact that he didn't answer any of shouted questions. Though maybe that's a reflection on how far politics has fallen.
  • Penny S wrote: »
    There is a picture of Carrie with Wilfred showing off to the other spouses. Wilfred appears to be a Mini-Me of his father.
    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/13/13/44150207-9681603-Boris_and_Carrie_Johnson_s_one_year_old_son_Wilfred_dazzled_G7_l-a-23_1623586217675.jpg

    Good God! The little devil's pinched his Daddy's Wig!
    :flushed:
  • Yesterday we thought we had everyone we were expecting and started our service a few minutes early, only for a member to slip in during the opening music (she was on time, just). At our place it's unusual for anyone to appear less than 5min before the start of the service, and with limited capacity we're not expecting unexpected visitors.

    Here it's unusual for any regulars to turn up more than 5 minutes before the start unless they're on door duty. Might be because so many of our folk are crofters and in the habit of working every minute it's light.
  • Our service is at 11.30 (it allows the minister to lead worship at 10am at another church) which means we'd normally finish after 12.30 and people want their lunch so don't hang around long. The chance to chat and catch up is thus before the service, so most people come early. That's part of our particular circumstances that won't apply to everyone.

    It also means that the bit in the MW report about after service coffee wouldn't apply if anyone dropped by.
  • EnochEnoch Shipmate
    Having just seen the Prime Minister on the 6 o clock news announcing the postponement of the end of Covid restrictions - which I agree with - I was very, very underwhelmed.

    I usually try to avoid watching him. I had almost forgotten quite how unimpressive he is, waffling, evasive, repetitive. He didn't answer the questions put to him. He gave the impression that he doesn't know what he's taking about and assumes a fruity Etonian voice entitles him to get away with it. Where do so many people get the idea from that he's somehow a great orator and has such great communication skills? He doesn't. He's dreadful. Somebody in that job quite simply should be better. He stood there between two experts who gave clear, creditable performances, who explained their briefs so that you could understand them. Putting it bluntly, he didn't and he failed, miserably.

    No wonder the other G7 leaders can run rings round him.

  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    edited June 14
    Enoch wrote: »
    Somebody in that job quite simply should be better. He stood there between two experts who gave clear, creditable performances, who explained their briefs so that you could understand them. Putting it bluntly, he didn't and he failed, miserably.

    The translator had some difficulty with his blatherings:

    https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/1404518192073084928

    Incidentally, I think the claim that he is a great communicator is just that, a claim repeated often by the media.
  • The BSL interpreter wasn't even present in the room. To set up a briefing room where there's no space for a sign language interpreter to be present and visible on camera is inexcusable. It's a simple and reasonable step to include an interpreter, and it's discriminatory to not have someone there.

    His performance this evening was quite good compared to his welcome speech to the G7
    [People] want us to be sure we are beating the pandemic together and discussing how we will never have a repeat of what we have seen but also that we are building back better together, and building back greener, and building back fairer and building back more equal and, how shall I, in a more gender neutral and perhaps I … a more feminine way – how about that?
    Answering questions is one thing, but a prepared speech to the worlds most powerful politicians isn't a time when there's any excuse for blathering. He's an embarrassment to the UK.
  • chrisstileschrisstiles Shipmate
    edited June 14
    The BSL interpreter wasn't even present in the room. To set up a briefing room where there's no space for a sign language interpreter to be present and visible on camera is inexcusable. It's a simple and reasonable step to include an interpreter, and it's discriminatory to not have someone there.

    I'd agree with all of this. My criticisms were directed at Johnson's inability to speak clearly and concisely, the interpreter seemed to be doing his best in the face of adversity.
  • DoublethinkDoublethink Shipmate
    He was partially deaf until he was eight, so it may not be entirely an affectation.
  • He was partially deaf until he was eight, so it may not be entirely an affectation.

    But he's been fully arsehole for almost the entire time since.
  • Gee DGee D Shipmate
    Poor Johnson - he did not go to Mass and so missed out the opportunity of attending with Biden.
  • EirenistEirenist Shipmate
    He communicated well enough to annoy every other G7 leader.
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