There was no offense intended but if I have been a dick in others estimation, I offer the offended parties my apology for referring to my fictional character as 'Beardy'
I realize now that it was crass, thoughtless and insensitive.
I guess I shall have to get in touch with my old pals Lofty Long, Dusty Millar, Chubby Chequer, Darkie Marshall, and Tubby the Tuba, to find out if I have inadvertently upset them over the years.
Actually Darkie was the only one I actually knew. Knew his son Paul too, a very good friend. Black as the ace of spades. Degree in mathematics. Treasurer of our church for years. His Great Great Grandfather came from Birmingham. Lovely family.
So some of your best friends are black. Lots of racists claim the same thing. And no, it's not funny that for years you disrespected a Brummie who evidently has the patience of a saint. I've never met Mr. Marshall, but he is clearly a better class of human than you.
I guess I shall have to get in touch with my old pals Lofty Long, Dusty Millar, Chubby Chequer, Darkie Marshall, and Tubby the Tuba, to find out if I have inadvertently upset them over the years.
Actually Darkie was the only one I actually knew. Knew his son Paul too, a very good friend. Black as the ace of spades. Degree in mathematics. Treasurer of our church for years. His Great Great Grandfather came from Birmingham. Lovely family.
I guess I shall have to get in touch with my old pals Lofty Long, Dusty Millar, Chubby Chequer, Darkie Marshall, and Tubby the Tuba, to find out if I have inadvertently upset them over the years.
Actually Darkie was the only one I actually knew. Knew his son Paul too, a very good friend. Black as the ace of spades. Degree in mathematics. Treasurer of our church for years. His Great Great Grandfather came from Birmingham. Lovely family.
...Is demonstrating all the bait and switch and false reasoning that you demonstrated on the Social-Progressive mindset thread
If you think there is a flaw in my reasoning, either here or in the SP thread, please point out which conclusion it is that does not follow.
I don't understand what you mean by "bait and switch". To my mind that refers to a sales tactic where you entice people into your shop with promises of cheap widgets, and then when you have them primed to buy you try to interest them in a deluxe not-cheap widget instead. I'm not really seeing how that applies here.
So some of your best friends are black. Lots of racists claim the same thing. And no, it's not funny that for years you disrespected a Brummie who evidently has the patience of a saint. I've never met Mr. Marshall, but he is clearly a better class of human than you.
And it's Chubby Checker, you moron.
Moron yourself. This is Hell, so you know where you can stick your self possessed opinions. So I'm a racist now am I. Fuckwit. Who was disrespectful? You don't know me or him. Self Righteous bigots think they know everything. That's not of course addressed to you but if the cap fits, wear it.
Whoever broke out the shovels and handed them to RdrEm, please take them back so he stops digging...
Just getting used to the general feel of Gehenna Doc. It seems anyone can be as fucking rude to newcomers as they like but newcomers have to climb the pecking order up the ranks of bigotry. It's Hell in here! That's why I originally left.
You've seen me around here for many years. Getting pissed off is very very rare for me. So do you really think I get monumentally pissed off for nothing?
Fair point. Normally you're someone we can all count on for calm and good sense.
If I knew what line I've crossed that upsets you, I could try not to cross it again.
But you seem to be saying that that particular Purg thread has a Highly Inflammable sign on it marking it as in some way off-limits to the usual type of debate, and you're upset because I ignored the sign...
The quality of the toys has severely diminished. Don't get me wrong, it appears to want to be chewed, and certainly deserves it, but it doesn't seem like it'll last long.
...Is demonstrating all the bait and switch and false reasoning that you demonstrated on the Social-Progressive mindset thread
If you think there is a flaw in my reasoning, either here or in the SP thread, please point out which conclusion it is that does not follow.
I don't understand what you mean by "bait and switch". To my mind that refers to a sales tactic where you entice people into your shop with promises of cheap widgets, and then when you have them primed to buy you try to interest them in a deluxe not-cheap widget instead. I'm not really seeing how that applies here.
Yes you do. You know exactly what it is.
It is introducing Kant and then refusing to engage with a discussion of Kant - because you clearly haven't actually read any Kant.
It is insisting on something from Kant even when it is shown to you that you have misunderstood it - and then not offering any refuting of it because you've not read any Kant.
It is going around the same tired roundabout of discussion, insisting that everyone should engage with your points as you raise them - because you think you can then persuade everyone else that your racist ideas are perfectly reasonable.
It is the repeated action of throwing up sand every time someone focusses on your racism by claiming something about drinking in pubs with tall people.
It's a form of pseudo-intellectualism where you persuade yourself that you can play with the Big Boys because you can throw things like Kant around but dodge out of the way whenever anyone else asks you to examine what you've said.
You rile people up, you make utterly ridiculous and outrageous statements and then stand at the sidelines with a "what..?" expression.
The quality of the toys has severely diminished. Don't get me wrong, it appears to want to be chewed, and certainly deserves it, but it doesn't seem like it'll last long.
And thinking and writing like this is the product of years of transcendentalism and navel gazing? Very at one with all I'm sure.
It's just that I have nothing better to do at the moment than fence words with idiots.
What actually is wrong with you?
Seriously, just shut your trap.
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Russ
That's a disingenuous post since your quote cut out my first para which contained arguments about community responsibility.
This is Shipmate Barnabas here, not Host Banabas ruling on a line cross. I think you were irresponsible and insensitive. That's why I'm pissed off with you. And I've now added disingenuous to the list.
You can be individualistic, irresponsible, insensitive and disingenuous within the rules here, unless and until Admin see fit to classify you as an irredeemable jerkish troll.
Which seems to me to be exactly where you are heading.
Shape up, or you are at increasing risk of getting shipped out. In my opinion of course. It's up to Admin.
Which is transcendental all embracingness for what? Not all deserve, but you are obviously not a universalist if you are saying not all get. You will be telling me I 'deserve' to go to hell next I suppose? Quite the judgmentalist Eh!
I guess I shall have to get in touch with my old pals Lofty Long, Dusty Millar, Chubby Chequer, Darkie Marshall, and Tubby the Tuba, to find out if I have inadvertently upset them over the years.
Actually Darkie was the only one I actually knew. Knew his son Paul too, a very good friend. Black as the ace of spades. Degree in mathematics. Treasurer of our church for years. His Great Great Grandfather came from Birmingham. Lovely family.
Lurking here continues to reward, if ever less frequently so...
I was digging for the life in other galaxies thread and tripped over this thread from the Old Ship™, 38 pages of calling Russ to Hell in 2015, closed as a late Christmas present, which is what wore out my patience - now in Oblivion. There was also a live thread in Hell on the Old Ship™ with 9 pages, still going when the transfer across to the New Ship™ happened. That was what I meant by frequent flier.
Then express your policy and practice arguments in the Styx thread , the proper forum, and avoid opening up a second front while the policy is the subject of detailed and heated discussion elsewhere. You aren't silenced if you do that. You are just showing a responsible attitude to wider community needs.
I think you're saying that you think I was wrong to try to go deeper into the issues around transgender (which I could anticipate would prove controversial) on the Purg thread at the point where there was an eruption of unrest in the Styx on the subject of what should or should not be permitted.
I can see how you might think that eruption is some sort of crisis - something close to mutiny ? - which threatens the harmony of the online community that we both value. As a Host that thread requires your attention, and you can do without Fools like me making waves elsewhere and stirring up the mutineers.
I apologise for any additional stress that my action has caused to you at what you regard as a difficult time. Upsetting you or any of the other Hosts who do such a good job was not my intention, and I'm sorry for any difficulties I have unwittingly caused you.
I'm not playing, Russ, I'm not allowing you to define what transgender issues are and changing the goal posts. I've seen you do it on other threads.
Well, precisely. Why do you all keep engaging this fuckstain? He is never going to change. He is always going to straw man the hell out of you, and/or argue the slippery slope. What are you getting out of this? Is it some kine of supererogatory action that you think will spare you a few seconds in Purgatory? Because if so, go nuts. Otherwise, why would you not ignore the cretin?
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I realize now that it was crass, thoughtless and insensitive.
(that smiley is supposed to be a thumbs up, in case it isn't clear)
Actually Darkie was the only one I actually knew. Knew his son Paul too, a very good friend. Black as the ace of spades. Degree in mathematics. Treasurer of our church for years. His Great Great Grandfather came from Birmingham. Lovely family.
And it's Chubby Checker, you moron.
Facepalm
If you think there is a flaw in my reasoning, either here or in the SP thread, please point out which conclusion it is that does not follow.
I don't understand what you mean by "bait and switch". To my mind that refers to a sales tactic where you entice people into your shop with promises of cheap widgets, and then when you have them primed to buy you try to interest them in a deluxe not-cheap widget instead. I'm not really seeing how that applies here.
Leopard spots.
Moron yourself. This is Hell, so you know where you can stick your self possessed opinions. So I'm a racist now am I. Fuckwit. Who was disrespectful? You don't know me or him. Self Righteous bigots think they know everything. That's not of course addressed to you but if the cap fits, wear it.
Just getting used to the general feel of Gehenna Doc. It seems anyone can be as fucking rude to newcomers as they like but newcomers have to climb the pecking order up the ranks of bigotry. It's Hell in here! That's why I originally left.
You suck at leaving.
You suck at keeping your nose out.
Fair point. Normally you're someone we can all count on for calm and good sense.
If I knew what line I've crossed that upsets you, I could try not to cross it again.
But you seem to be saying that that particular Purg thread has a Highly Inflammable sign on it marking it as in some way off-limits to the usual type of debate, and you're upset because I ignored the sign...
Oh, you are volunteering to be my new toy!
Yes you do. You know exactly what it is.
It is introducing Kant and then refusing to engage with a discussion of Kant - because you clearly haven't actually read any Kant.
It is insisting on something from Kant even when it is shown to you that you have misunderstood it - and then not offering any refuting of it because you've not read any Kant.
It is going around the same tired roundabout of discussion, insisting that everyone should engage with your points as you raise them - because you think you can then persuade everyone else that your racist ideas are perfectly reasonable.
It is the repeated action of throwing up sand every time someone focusses on your racism by claiming something about drinking in pubs with tall people.
It's a form of pseudo-intellectualism where you persuade yourself that you can play with the Big Boys because you can throw things like Kant around but dodge out of the way whenever anyone else asks you to examine what you've said.
You rile people up, you make utterly ridiculous and outrageous statements and then stand at the sidelines with a "what..?" expression.
Childish, pathetic and fundamentally dishonest.
And thinking and writing like this is the product of years of transcendentalism and navel gazing? Very at one with all I'm sure.
No and I reserve the right not to want to either.
It's just that I have nothing better to do at the moment than fence words with idiots.
What actually is wrong with you?
Seriously, just shut your trap.
That's a disingenuous post since your quote cut out my first para which contained arguments about community responsibility.
This is Shipmate Barnabas here, not Host Banabas ruling on a line cross. I think you were irresponsible and insensitive. That's why I'm pissed off with you. And I've now added disingenuous to the list.
You can be individualistic, irresponsible, insensitive and disingenuous within the rules here, unless and until Admin see fit to classify you as an irredeemable jerkish troll.
Which seems to me to be exactly where you are heading.
Shape up, or you are at increasing risk of getting shipped out. In my opinion of course. It's up to Admin.
Meanwhile I'm done with you.
You fucked up, so rather than continuing to impersonate a chihuahua gone off its meds, just chill.
No comment! (Is that allowed in Hell)? WoW!
Lurking here continues to reward, if ever less frequently so...
Great stuff!
I think you're saying that you think I was wrong to try to go deeper into the issues around transgender (which I could anticipate would prove controversial) on the Purg thread at the point where there was an eruption of unrest in the Styx on the subject of what should or should not be permitted.
I can see how you might think that eruption is some sort of crisis - something close to mutiny ? - which threatens the harmony of the online community that we both value. As a Host that thread requires your attention, and you can do without Fools like me making waves elsewhere and stirring up the mutineers.
I apologise for any additional stress that my action has caused to you at what you regard as a difficult time. Upsetting you or any of the other Hosts who do such a good job was not my intention, and I'm sorry for any difficulties I have unwittingly caused you.
Well, precisely. Why do you all keep engaging this fuckstain? He is never going to change. He is always going to straw man the hell out of you, and/or argue the slippery slope. What are you getting out of this? Is it some kine of supererogatory action that you think will spare you a few seconds in Purgatory? Because if so, go nuts. Otherwise, why would you not ignore the cretin?
...says the fellow who resurrects a thread after being dormant for two weeks.