RdrEmCofE, chill

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  • LeRocLeRoc Shipmate
    Yup.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    I think he gets carried away and doesn’t know when to stop - both here and there. And doesn’t actually hear what’s being said. I do think he genuinely struggles with seeing other perspectives. But I also think he has set out to prove his point rather than hear other points.
  • LeRocLeRoc Shipmate
    I'm more and more leaning towards the deliberate trolling hypothesis.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    I was thinking he was doing the ‘I’m offended - you have to apologise’ thing as a way of trying to demonstrate how daft he sees it that people should apologise whenever someone is offended. As a (not very effective) way of trying to prove his point. Maybe I am being too generous. I see this kind of behaviour a lot with people who genuinely struggle to understand social interaction. But yeah, it gets to a point where it is unacceptable, regardless, and pointless to entertain it.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited July 2018
    ISWYM, and both this and the Purgatory thread are becoming a bit tedious, no? But there is a sort of awful fascination about watching someone hanging themselves by an ever-tighter knot...

    Time to raid the fridge for some nice cold CIDER, I think!

    IJ
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    Or maybe it’s a perspective failure on my part to understand why someone would do this deliberately. :confused:
  • Not necessarily - it may simply be that the person concerned has too much time on his hands.

    Now, where's that CIDER?

    IJ
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    Yes, tedious. Also feeling like lots of wasted energy. I am going to have a nice glass of cold white wine.

    (By the way, I always have to google the acronyms, every time! Never seen them anywhere else but here. Is there a list of them somewhere?)
  • O sorry - I think there was a list on the Old Ship, but I don't know if it's come across to the New Vessel.

    IJ
  • There used to a list of acronyms in the FAQs (frequently asked questions). I guess it's something to put as a Styx request. (Last one I googled came from Reddit, so not just here, and the few other internet geeks at work tend to know them the way I do.)
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    I don’t use Reddit - I always thought I was an internet geek, but I guess the social sites and forums I’ve been on have been more bloggy with full words. I don’t mind googling. I could probably find a list and save it to refer to. Like I do with the acronym conventions of the cryptic crosswords.
  • lilbuddhalilbuddha Shipmate
    LeRoc wrote: »
    I'm more and more leaning towards the deliberate trolling hypothesis.
    There is a point where effectively a troll and intentionally a troll cross and there is no effective difference. Either he is reactionary and immature or a deliberate douche. If he cannot break out of it, does it matter?
  • LeRocLeRoc Shipmate
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    There is a point where effectively a troll and intentionally a troll cross and there is no effective difference. Either he is reactionary and immature or a deliberate douche. If he cannot break out of it, does it matter?
    Good point.
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    LeRoc wrote: »
    I'm more and more leaning towards the deliberate trolling hypothesis.
    There is a point where effectively a troll and intentionally a troll cross and there is no effective difference. Either he is reactionary and immature or a deliberate douche. If he cannot break out of it, does it matter?

    [finger] --> [nose]

    The person is a fuckstard.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    LeRoc wrote: »
    I'm more and more leaning towards the deliberate trolling hypothesis.
    There is a point where effectively a troll and intentionally a troll cross and there is no effective difference. Either he is reactionary and immature or a deliberate douche. If he cannot break out of it, does it matter?

    Agreed. Not worth feeding.

    My apologies to Mousethief.

  • fineline wrote: »
    I was thinking he was doing the ‘I’m offended - you have to apologise’ thing as a way of trying to demonstrate how daft he sees it that people should apologise whenever someone is offended. As a (not very effective) way of trying to prove his point. Maybe I am being too generous. I see this kind of behaviour a lot with people who genuinely struggle to understand social interaction.
    If you're being too generous, I am too. That's the same thought I've been having—that he's trying to make a point about what others have said about being offended. Unfortunately for him, that's not the point he's actually making.

    As for genuinely struggling to understand social interactions, various posts of his over the months, as well as aspects of his posting style, make me wonder if that is indeed at play here.

    And yes @lilbuddha.
    ISWYM, and both this and the Purgatory thread are becoming a bit tedious, no? But there is a sort of awful fascination about watching someone hanging themselves by an ever-tighter knot...
    It's like watching a train wreck on video-loop.

  • I thought genuinely struggling to understand social interactions when I was trying to explain how Hell works.

    The current thread in Purgatory also seems to demonstrate that he is missing lots of understanding how the Ship works and now on a mission to demonstrate that the Ship is wrong in the way it operates. Which doesn't usually go down well.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    OK, so now I'm sorry I was so helpful, having seen the latest Purgatory thread on nicknames developing quite the way it has.

    I don't know. @Boogie contribution was the first one that didn't try to insult me or put words in my mouth. Brilliant!
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    Or is returning here going to result in yet another dog pile and peanut throwing session?
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    You know, my initial interpretation stands, especially in the light of his last couple of comments here. But also yes to what Curiosity said about mission to prove the Ship wrong. The two can go together. I am feeling a mix of sympathy and frustration!
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens*

    And youse ones swigging chilled cider and cold white wine - I hate you.

    *The gods themselves struggle against stupidity
  • lilbuddhalilbuddha Shipmate
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    OK, so now I'm sorry I was so helpful, having seen the latest Purgatory thread on nicknames developing quite the way it has.

    I don't know. @Boogie contribution was the first one that didn't try to insult me or put words in my mouth. Brilliant!
    Really? Loads of responses did neither. Including most of the ones you made claim ( or pretend to claim) did.
  • O come now - the CIDER and WINE do help.

    And I've got some nice salted PEANUTS, too!
    :grimace:

    Meanwhile, seriously, RdrEmCoE could do with a breather, as he seems to be digging himself into several holes simultaneously.

    IJ
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    [at the risk of being a completely gullible dumbarse, but genuinely wanting to help]

    @RdrEmCofE - Boogie's comment was a nice, friendly sharing of her personal experiences. If you want more of that, Heaven is the place where that usually happens. People don't tend to disagree in Heaven, but find things in common to chat about. Which sounds like it might be more what you're after. :smile:
  • lilbuddhalilbuddha Shipmate
    edited July 2018
    fineline wrote: »
    [at the risk of being a completely gullible dumbarse, but genuinely wanting to help]
    He picked the post that he could respond to without acknowledging how much of a prick he’s been on his Purg thread. Natural, but doesn’t indicate a change in ways or an understanding of what people are actually saying. If that is what he is truly aiming for. I’m not saying you should be as mistrustful of him as I, just that investing to much stock in a revelation or conversion is cautioned against.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    @lilbuddha I'm not suggesting a change of ways or an understanding of what people are saying. I don't think that's going to happen. Maybe due to limitations rather than trolling. So I'm just thinking Heaven might be a happier, more straightforward place for the kind of interaction wanted.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    OK, so now I'm sorry I was so helpful, having seen the latest Purgatory thread on nicknames developing quite the way it has.

    I don't know. @Boogie contribution was the first one that didn't try to insult me or put words in my mouth. Brilliant!
    Really? Loads of responses did neither. Including most of the ones you made claim ( or pretend to claim) did.

    I notice I have not had any more expert military memoirs from you old chap. Could it that my shot went right between wind and water.
  • EutychusEutychus Shipmate
    edited July 2018
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    I notice I have not had any more expert military memoirs from you old chap.
    In my experience, bragging about time spent in the armed forces is inversely proportional to what one actually did in them, to the extent that the biggest braggarts online have often turned out to be making up their experiences entirely.
  • The same could be said of any personal experience recounted online under a cloak of anonymity.

    We simply have to take what is told us 'on trust'.

    IJ
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    To be fair, I’m not sure that telling us he was nicknamed ‘Ramblin’ after Ramblin Sid Rumpo counts as bragging, as such.

    Incidentally I’ve just been googling Ramblin Sid Rumpo, and watching the youtube vidoes - quite entertaining. :smile:

    https://youtu.be/Dct_VJNLvAk
  • EutychusEutychus Shipmate
    We simply have to take what is told us 'on trust'.
    And beware of those trying to goad us into sharing more than we initially wanted to.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    fineline wrote: »
    To be fair, I’m not sure that telling us he was nicknamed ‘Ramblin’ after Ramblin Sid Rumpo counts as bragging, as such.

    Incidentally I’ve just been googling Ramblin Sid Rumpo, and watching the youtube vidoes - quite entertaining. :smile:

    https://youtu.be/Dct_VJNLvAk

    That's the one! You are right about the bragging not counting too. At that time I had not yet fallen in line with my masters ways. I had gone very far astray. I sang mess ditties that would make your ears turn blue and tickle your toes. Ramblin Sid was politeness itself by comparison. I was well popular at banyans and mess piss ups.
  • lilbuddhalilbuddha Shipmate
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »

    I notice I have not had any more expert military memoirs from you old chap.
    I gave you more reference than was necessary and certainly more than you have earned. And must I repeat that I made no claim to expertise, merely a broad statement of experience? Cannot help if it doesn’t match yours from when you and your mates were seeing off the Armada.
    Could it that my shot went right between wind and water.
    You would know about shooting your load towards an imagined target.
  • fineline wrote: »
    My apologies to Mousethief.
    You held out longer than I did. You are still a fine person.
  • We simply have to take what is told us 'on trust'.
    Easier to do with someone who isn't coming across as an arse.
  • Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    lilbuddha wrote: »
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »

    I notice I have not had any more expert military memoirs from you old chap.
    I gave you more reference than was necessary and certainly more than you have earned. And must I repeat that I made no claim to expertise, merely a broad statement of experience? Cannot help if it doesn’t match yours from when you and your mates were seeing off the Armada.
    Could it that my shot went right between wind and water.
    You would know about shooting your load towards an imagined target.

    Wind and water.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    I think given the length of RdrEtc.'s posts Rambling may be totally appropriate, as in Grandpa Simpson.

    I dunno; it seems a sort of "we used to do this back in my day, can't be wrong, these young people with their political correctness mutter mutter it's always too cold these days, toilet rolls 35p for two! That's £32 4s thruppence farthing in old money I was down pit when I was fourteen! Fourteen! "*

    Coupled with an ability (cf. Russ) to piss kerosene on bonfires...

    *feel my knuckles! They're like ice!
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.
  • mr cheesymr cheesy Shipmate
    edited July 2018
    I spend a reasonable amount of time around people who were down pit and other heavy workplaces. They have a form of language that is coarse, including at times language that is racist and inappropriate.

    The one saving grace is that that they say these things looking embarrassed and frequently apologise for themselves. And they have the self-control to avoid using this language around people who would obviously be hurt by it.

    The language is bad. But sensible adults take responsibility for their actions and have the self-awareness to know that some things are hurtful and that they'll at very least try to moderate what they say and where they say it.

    A really childish idiot simply says things and expects everyone else to deal with it.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    Agreed. Ways of speaking and behaving are very context dependent. The way a person may speak with their circle of friends may be very different from how they speak at work, which may again be very different from how they speak around elderly relatives, or around their kids. Understanding of context is important.
  • RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.

    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ

  • Top pedantry, BF.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.

    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ

    Ah damn that dyslecsiah.
  • RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.

    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.


    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ

    I could live with being called a rich pedant.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I think given the length of RdrEtc.'s posts Rambling may be totally appropriate, as in Grandpa Simpson.

    I dunno; it seems a sort of "we used to do this back in my day, can't be wrong, these young people with their political correctness mutter mutter it's always too cold these days, toilet rolls 35p for two! That's £32 4s thruppence farthing in old money I was down pit when I was fourteen! Fourteen! "*

    Coupled with an ability (cf. Russ) to piss kerosene on bonfires...

    *feel my knuckles! They're like ice!

    Written presumably with the underlying assumption that every septuagenarian, by reason of the age they have lived though and their obvious incapacity to understand "Modern Ways", must of course be a racist, a mental basket case, or a bigot. No prejudice going on here of course. No "ageism" or discrimination. Nooo.

    Hope the knuckles warm up soon. Try mittens. The Germans used them to good effect.

  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    edited July 2018
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.

    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Given that it's apparently ok to give people nicknames whether they like them or not, can we just come up with a suitable one until he gives in or fucks off?

    How about "knobjockey"?

    How about "pedant affluvia" for yourself, since you seem to be making the rules and applying them to me.


    Do you perhaps mean 'pedant effluvia' ?
    :wink:

    IJ

    I could live with being called a rich pedant.

    That's not what I meant, and you know it and yes, it is your feet.
  • RooKRooK Admin Emeritus
    edited July 2018
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Written presumably with the underlying assumption that every septuagenarian, by reason of the age they have lived though and their obvious incapacity to understand "Modern Ways", must of course be a racist, a mental basket case, or a bigot. No prejudice going on here of course. No "ageism" or discrimination. Nooo.

    Interesting point. We have several people of such age among us who have none of those traits. So an implied requirement would probably be both false and ageism.

    However, in this case, I suspect that the intent was to give you an excuse. Sadly, that also likely runs afoul of ageism.

    As a group, I think we can be open-minded enough to grant that your blatant inability to understand "modern ways", your racism, your bigotry - is all unique to you. Because you are an idiot.
  • RdrEmCofERdrEmCofE Shipmate
    RooK wrote: »
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    Written presumably with the underlying assumption that every septuagenarian, by reason of the age they have lived though and their obvious incapacity to understand "Modern Ways", must of course be a racist, a mental basket case, or a bigot. No prejudice going on here of course. No "ageism" or discrimination. Nooo.

    Interesting point. We have several people of such age among us who have none of those traits. So an implied requirement would probably be both false and ageism.

    However, in this case, I suspect that the intent was to give you an excuse. Sadly, that also likely runs afoul of ageism.

    As a group, I think we can be open-minded enough to grant that your blatant inability to understand "modern ways", your racism, your bigotry - is all unique to you. Because you are an idiot.

    A splendid example of "open mindedness". I'm sure. Defense of 'modernist discriminatory prejudice' and false accusation, insult and calumny + personal abuse and name calling. Some host you are.
  • KarlLBKarlLB Shipmate
    RdrEmCofE wrote: »
    KarlLB wrote: »
    I think given the length of RdrEtc.'s posts Rambling may be totally appropriate, as in Grandpa Simpson.

    I dunno; it seems a sort of "we used to do this back in my day, can't be wrong, these young people with their political correctness mutter mutter it's always too cold these days, toilet rolls 35p for two! That's £32 4s thruppence farthing in old money I was down pit when I was fourteen! Fourteen! "*

    Coupled with an ability (cf. Russ) to piss kerosene on bonfires...

    *feel my knuckles! They're like ice!

    Written presumably with the underlying assumption that every septuagenarian, by reason of the age they have lived though and their obvious incapacity to understand "Modern Ways", must of course be a racist, a mental basket case, or a bigot. No prejudice going on here of course. No "ageism" or discrimination. Nooo.

    Hope the knuckles warm up soon. Try mittens. The Germans used them to good effect.

    No, just the particular species you seem to belong to.
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