Heaven: When Google Fails You: The 2018 General Question Thread

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  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Is there any way you could link to (an) image(s) of the word?
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Could it be something like a jaj date, or some variant thereof?
  • Brilliant! Thank you! That is what it is. I thought it started with an ornate "M" (there's an ornate "M" at the start of Margaret in the same document, which looks the same) but I now see that it is "1mvijs"
    Many thanks!
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    :blush: Pleased to have helped.
  • SparrowSparrow Shipmate
    How can I remove dried on old glue from a glass ornament that I need to re-stick together? It isn't superglue, it was done with an old glue many years ago.
  • Sparrow--

    You may have already tried this, but...search on "remove dried on old glue from a glass ornament". I got lots of hits. I used the Duck Duck Go search engine. Hits that are ornament specific are down the page a ways. Lots of other hits re glass and ceramics.

    There's even one about removing "old brown mucilage glue".

    Good luck!
  • Some years ago, I read a quote which said that Summer begins of an evening and Autumn begins of a morning. Yesterday morning had a tang of Autumn to it, which reminded me of the quote. Can anyone help me identify it?
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    Priscilla, from googling, I find this, but it is about Autumn and Spring.
    It is about five o’clock in an evening that the first hour of spring strikes — autumn arrives in the early morning, but spring at the close of a winter day. ~Elizabeth Bowen, The Death of the Heart
  • Many thanks Fineline - that probably explains why I couldn't find it! It's remarkably true though, the sound of birdsong and lengthening days, or heavy dew on the car and a change n the quality of the light before the leaves show any signs f colour change.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    It’s not something I’d thought about before, but yes, maybe that is so - though it is the cooler evenings that tend to be what I notice most at the beginning of autumn.

    I found the quote, by the way, by googling for quotes about autumn, clicking on a page of quotes, and doing a search within the page for instances of the word ‘morning.’
  • We had a discussion at church the other day about the ecological merits of paper cups versus washing up proper cups with hot water and soap. Do any of you know of a good site which will let you make comparisons taking various factors into consideration?
  • ClimacusClimacus Shipmate
    edited August 2018
    A famous study (taking into account a dishwasher) shows you'd need to use a ceramic cup 1,006 times to better a foam cup and 39 times to better a paper cup in relation to the total energy used.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    That is interesting, Climacus - it is something I’ve often wondered about, but never thought there would actually be a study on it!
  • There may be later studies. That was one I recalled and that PDF seemed like a reasonable summary.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    I won't use foam cups; they break into a million wee pieces of plastic that will never, ever go away.
  • I'm not even sure you can get foam cups round here any more for that reason. The choice seems to be between paper and thin plastic cups.
  • the 1000+ times seems like a lot, then I remembered how many cups of tea/coffee some of my colleagues seem to take in a single day. Would take them less than a year to break even
  • Just because the Hocking results don't chime with current advice, I went looking for more recent reports (things have changed a lot from 1994), and according to page 6 of this document (pdf link) a number of other researchers have found different results: the ratio of energy break even between ceramic cups to foam cups to be 1:70 (Woods & Bakshi 2012) to 1:345 (Carbon Clear 2012) rather than the 1:1006 of the Hocking research. The document quoted is a January 2017 Literature Review of Greenhouse Gas Impacts of Disposable vs Reusable Foodservice Products and points out that so called compostable plateware is not composted so doesn't save anything.

    This Australian marketing (pdf link) for a Keep Cup gives their assumptions and calculations to explain their claims that using a Keep Cup more than 17 times will save energy. One of the assumptions is that the paper cups are not waxed.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    I was also thinking, with a paper cup, there’s surely also the energy it takes to recycle it after it’s used. Unless that is all counted in the production energy.

    When I make a mug of tea at home, I put tea leaves in the bottom, fill it with boiled water, and then when I’ve drunk it, I keep refilling, as the leaves last for several mugs full. And then I wash in a plastic bowl in the the sink, when the bowl is full, which is sometimes only every couple of days. So I suspect my energy used on ceramic mugs is lower than usual.

    But it is something I have wondered about when I go to a coffee shop. Sometimes if their dishwasher is down, you have to have a paper cup, and it makes me think about how much work and energy washing all the mugs. You get the drink cheaper if you bring in your own cup, which saves energy for them, but then you have to carry around a cup and wash it yourself when you’re out and about or else carry it dirty in your bag.
  • North East QuineNorth East Quine Shipmate
    edited August 2018
    I carry a reusable mug which has a tightly fitting rubber lid, and I haven't found that carrying it around dirty is a problem, as the rubber lid keeps any drips in. It cost £10, and I think I've broken even as a number of places give you 25p off for providing your own mug. I've no idea how often I've used it; possibly over a hundred? (If I'm working in a water-only area, I fill it with tap water, thus saving buying bottled water.)

    Also, it has a geometric pink and purple design which I love.
  • I have a collection of reusable cups and bottles - the cup looks like a camera lens, which caused a degree of consternation from another photographer when out at a festival - he now wants his own, reusable plastic beer glass from Cambridge Folk Festival that I take to venues and get money off for using instead of plastic and a range of Cheeki water bottles. I've had and used the water bottles for the last 3 years.
  • Love that cup CK!

    I have one like NEQ. We get 50¢ off in some places, and I find it easy to keep clean. I did, embarrassingly, rock up to a café with a dirty mug once. Whoops!
  • A former Presentation Sisters convent building and grounds has open days this weekend and I'm visiting today. This was a stained glass window in the chapel:

    https://imgur.com/a/lmaFmMR

    HBV? Holy Blessed Virgin? Something else? What may it stand for?
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    Is it not BVM?
  • Oh, I see it now. :confounded:

    *skulks away, thinking the V and M combined lines confused me...*
  • Yes, I think BVM but it is confusing. In fact it looks as if someone cocked it up a bit!
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    I certainly think your reading is a possible interpretation. It’s just that BVM makes such obvious sense. I find the lettering odd too. It looks as if the letters are constructed from bones!
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    How is the Welsh name Huw pronounced? I've always thought it was like Hugh, but is it?

    I have just read a book* where it was the name of one of the most irritating characters, and my ignorance of the right way to pronounce his name added to my irritation.

    * it was one of those books where someone is bumped off - and by the end of the book the reader wishes it had been the author :angry:
  • BroJamesBroJames Purgatory Host, 8th Day Host
    I've known a couple of Huws whose pronunciation of their name was indistinguishable from Hugh.
  • I support and independent news organisation here and my budget may stretch to another with some deals they are offering. I was thinking of the NYT or Washington Post. Does anyone have a preference? Or should it come down to what I think, newspaper reading being a subjective thing?
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    I’m a longtime subscriber to the NYT. I got a free subscription to the WaPo through my hometown paper for a year, and I liked it so well that I paid to renew it when the deal expired.
  • Huia wrote: »
    How is the Welsh name Huw pronounced? I've always thought it was like Hugh, but is it?

    I have just read a book* where it was the name of one of the most irritating characters, and my ignorance of the right way to pronounce his name added to my irritation.

    * it was one of those books where someone is bumped off - and by the end of the book the reader wishes it had been the author :angry:
    The Welsh pronunciation from my experience is somewhere between hue and hoo.
  • finelinefineline Kerygmania Host, 8th Day Host
    Huia wrote: »
    How is the Welsh name Huw pronounced? I've always thought it was like Hugh, but is it?

    I have just read a book* where it was the name of one of the most irritating characters, and my ignorance of the right way to pronounce his name added to my irritation.

    * it was one of those books where someone is bumped off - and by the end of the book the reader wishes it had been the author :angry:
    The Welsh pronunciation from my experience is somewhere between hue and hoo.

    I have found this too, but I think that is the Welsh accent, and so someone called Hugh would be pronounced the same by a Welsh person.

  • I have posted a (to me) curious headline on the Weird Headlines thread in Circus. The Grauniad headline goes like this:
    Meghan Markle can shut her own car door – so why can't Prince Charles iron his own shoelaces?
    This raises the embarrassing question: what have I missed out on in my life by NOT ironing my shoelaces? Seriously - is this something you do, 'one does/has done'? Anyone else iron their shoelaces?!

    I sorta makes sense I guess - but any of you doing this? Ta.
  • How fascinating. I don't iron my underwear so I don't think I'd do shoelaces.


    Thanks for the review of the papers, Ross.
  • HuiaHuia Shipmate
    Thanks for the answers on Huw.

    Wesley if the shoelaces had nylon in them you would have to be careful with the heat setting on the iron.

    My other ironed most things (we used to tease her that the only thing that saved the cat from being ironed was his claws) but shoelaces?
  • FirenzeFirenze Shipmate, Host Emeritus
    I thought all shoes came with velcro these days.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited October 2018
    Being a bit Palace-bound these days, I've been watching some of the episodes of the classic British sit-com Rising Damp on YouTube.

    The egregious landlord, Rigsby, was played by the incomparable Leonard Rossiter (1926-1984), famous too for his portrayal of Reginald Perrin.

    Now, I seem to recall Rossiter playing the part of a miserly antique-dealer (a sort of Rigsbyesque character) in a TV film or play featuring the comings-and-goings of 'an occasional table', sold cheaply in error by Rossiter, and subsequently pursued by him in attempts to get it back.

    There doesn't appear to be any mention of this film/play on any sites about Leonard Rossiter I've come across, but I'm sure it's not a figment of my drug-inflamed imagination!

    Any ideas or pointers?

    Given Rossiter's untimely death as long ago as 1984 (on the day before I was due to see him performing in London!), the film/play may well be lost.
  • NicoleMRNicoleMR Shipmate
    edited October 2018
    Bishops Finger, try going to the site https://imdb.com/ and do a name search there. It should bring up a list of everything (movie or tv show) he was ever credited as being in, and the name of the character he was credited as.

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  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    Bishops Finger, I don't recall that but it sounds very similar to a radio script for Tony Hancock written in the early 50s and never recorded. I only know because there was a reading of it a couple of weeks ago at the British Library we went to. The Tony Hancock character (although very similar to the Hancock's Half Hour character) was an auctioneer who sold a clock belonging to the pub where the auction was being held and spent the rest of the episode trying to get it back.

    (I could see why it wasn't recorded, it wasn't very funny, but quite interesting to see an early iteration of the character).

    Sorry, that was a complete tangent.

    MMM
  • The trouble with IMDB is that they list a lot of TV episodes with no synopsis, so it becomes a bit of a guessing game. But, taking a stab at it, possibly it is The Italian Table, an episode of The Wednesday Play?

    MMM, never apologize for tangents. I always wander off on them. It is good exercise.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited October 2018
    Thank you, peeps all.

    Yes, I think Hedgehog is right - I'd forgotten about the Italian bit...
    :grin:

    There doesn't seem to be owt on YouTube, but I'll have a wider look around, now that I know the title.

    O Praise God And All His Saints for the Ship!
  • BTW - it occurs to me that a lot of British comedy of that era (60s/70s) had a distinctly bitter-sweet taste.

    Dunno if we've lost that somewhere along the line - it could just be Old Age and Nostalgia kicking in - but YMMV.
  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    There seems to be an appetite for it at the moment. As well as the Tony Hancock reading, there have been shows reviving Round the Horne and the Goons, and there's a Dad's Army one coming up (as well as the dreadful film a couple of years back and the lost episodes that are going to be recorded). We're going to see a Flanders and Swann 'tribute band' tomorrow!

    MMM
  • You can hear a lot of the old BBC Radio comedy on Radio 4 Extra, currently The Goon Show, Doctor in the House, Yes Minister, The Navy Lark, Beyond our Ken, Old Harry's Game, Hancock's Half Hour, The Men from the Ministry, Take it from Here and Cabin Pressure are all being broadcast.

    I grew up with the Flanders and Swann albums, so can recite large chunks of their oeuvre, but I'm not sure that I'd want to see a 'tribute' to them.
  • I grew up with the Flanders and Swann albums, so can recite large chunks of their oeuvre, but I'm not sure that I'd want to see a 'tribute' to them.

    Ditto. I have a boxed edition of their three albums, which I play regularly. A Song of Patriotic Prejudice is known by heart (among others) and I still play it in my head as an antidote to any Little Englander bullshit I might hear.

    But I don't need a tribute act. No-one does.

  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    No-one speaking here. I do. I enjoyed it last time I saw it and am looking forward to it this evening. I enjoy the boxed set I have as well.

    MMM
  • Sorry, but so-called 'tribute acts' (however well-performed) are no substitute for the Real Thing.
  • MMMMMM Shipmate
    No, of course they're not. Whoever said they were? But it was a good enough evening out, listening to some terrific songs (even though the main singer was somewhat past his best).

    And I can't listen to the originals live any more, can I?

    I ought to say that 'tribute band' is my terminology: the evening was officially billed as 'A Celebration of..'

    MMM, surprised at the emotions this has stirred.
  • I'm sorry I started that tangent too, it wasn't anything more than a mild "not sure I'd want to see" this.

    Looking at the Hockney window online, some of the close up details photographs look more interesting. Seeing the Tate Exhibition last year brought home how varied his work is and how much it has changed over the years.
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