SusanDoris the millstone

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  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    Thank you for your interesting, but possibly (to this thread) irrelevant post.

    May I suggest (seriously) that the subject to which you refer might be suitable for another thread, perhaps in the less troll-infested realms of Purgatory? You are far more likely to be able to discuss it sensibly there!

    Apologies if you have already raised it, and I haven't noticed. As I am not at present certain as to whether I objectively exist, or not, my head (should it exist) is a bit muddled.

    IJ

  • mr cheesymr cheesy Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    All of this very interesting discussion reminds me of an incident that happened to me over lunch. The talking dog was sharing a lovely and very interesting fruitcake with me.

    I was thinking of my next response on this thread and absent mindedly reached over to pick up a slice of cake. Only instead of the cake, I actually was holding the talking dog's tongue which was wrapped around the last piece of cake.

    The talking dog said something which I didn't understand, but I was determined to have that piece of cake. Fair is fair, after all.

    After some moments of grappling, the talking dog finally withdrew his tongue, which had gone a funny colour by this stage due to the tight grip I had in his tongue.

    I then took great delight in eating that interesting slice of cake - of course made considerably more interesting by the talking dog's tongue - in front of my friend.

    Who then inexplicably and without any warning decided to bite my leg.

    Which was most interesting.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    Thank you for a most interesting story, but I am afraid that I do not believe in the existence of your leg, and require objective evidence.

    However, without any such evidence, I am prepared to accept that you might possibly eat fruitcake, given that you have an obvious interest in cheese.

    Which empirical evidence shows goes down well with such cake.

    IJ
  • magnilomagnilo Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    Thank you for your interesting, but possibly (to this thread) irrelevant post.

    May I suggest (seriously) that the subject to which you refer might be suitable for another thread, perhaps in the less troll-infested realms of Purgatory? You are far more likely to be able to discuss it sensibly there!
    You may suggest it, yes. As to whether it’s appropriate for you do so on the basis of your stated reasons, I shall not deem to judge. That’ll be down our esteemed hosts to decide, if indeed you turn out to be more than a figment of your own imagination. Cheers.

  • Thank you for a most interesting story, but I am afraid that I do not believe in the existence of your leg, and require objective evidence.

    IJ

    Thank you for this most interesting thought - you are quite right. I cannot objectively prove the existence of my leg any more than the talking dog, the ambulance, the hospital, the medical staff or any of the universe of which these things are a part.

    Meanwhile I'd just like to say that I had a most interesting discussion in Starbucks about the existence of coffee and whether the monetary system is an objective fact. I now have an opportunity a week on Monday to discuss with a magistrate whether the legal system does in fact exist - and I look forward to seeing what evidence he has that he does indeed have the powers to imprison me and that those alleged places where my freedom can be restrained do actually exist.

    Interesting times!

  • magnilo wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    Thank you for your interesting, but possibly (to this thread) irrelevant post.

    May I suggest (seriously) that the subject to which you refer might be suitable for another thread, perhaps in the less troll-infested realms of Purgatory? You are far more likely to be able to discuss it sensibly there!
    You may suggest it, yes. As to whether it’s appropriate for you do so on the basis of your stated reasons, I shall not deem to judge. That’ll be down our esteemed hosts to decide, if indeed you turn out to be more than a figment of your own imagination. Cheers.

    What a fascinating thought. How does something that doesn't exist have an imagination, and if it does have that imagination how can itself be a figment of it?

    Please provide objective evidence of any thought processes you might have had by providing a link to a peer reviewed study written by you in the last five years.
  • Dear mr cheesy, I am so sorry to hear of your nevertheless interesting story regarding Starbucks (which, I confess, I had always considered as being a figment of someone's fevered imagination).

    I do hope that the possibly existent magistrate, and penal system, turn out to be non-existent, and that your continued peaceful existence (if such exists) is preserved.

    I would point out to our interesting colleague, magnilo, that my suggestion of a Purgatory thread was, in fact, as I said, serious. This characteristic contrasts strongly, it would objectively appear, with everything else on this thread (which seems to be, subjectively, and at the present moment, singularly free of Trolls).

    IJ
  • mr cheesy wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    Thank you for your interesting, but possibly (to this thread) irrelevant post.

    May I suggest (seriously) that the subject to which you refer might be suitable for another thread, perhaps in the less troll-infested realms of Purgatory? You are far more likely to be able to discuss it sensibly there!
    You may suggest it, yes. As to whether it’s appropriate for you do so on the basis of your stated reasons, I shall not deem to judge. That’ll be down our esteemed hosts to decide, if indeed you turn out to be more than a figment of your own imagination. Cheers.

    What a fascinating thought. How does something that doesn't exist have an imagination, and if it does have that imagination how can itself be a figment of it?

    Please provide objective evidence of any thought processes you might have had by providing a link to a peer reviewed study written by you in the last five years.
    Now I’m genuinely intrigued. Why would you assume, without any objective evidence, that Bishop’s Finger has anything as intangible as an imagination?

  • magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    It's the one that came to mind. I doubt not but that could rattle off a dozen more with just a moment's thought.
  • What an intriguing interestedness you display (or should that be interesting intrigueness?).

    I should have thought that my interesting and imaginative (if occasionally tedious) posts would have provided some evidence, at least, of an imagination with a tangible and, indeed, objective existence.

    O how I wish SusanDoris would condescend to return to this thread, to help us see our way clearly and objectively through the Slough of Despond into which we appear (subjectively) to have strayed? But perhaps it is sleepy-time in Troll-Land....

    IJ

  • magnilomagnilo Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    It's the one that came to mind. I doubt not but that I could rattle off a dozen more with just a moment's thought.
    A dozen more unfair comparisons? Impressive. Rattle away. On second thoughts, don’t bother yourself.

  • magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    It's the one that came to mind. I doubt not but that I could rattle off a dozen more with just a moment's thought.
    A dozen more unfair comparisons? Impressive. Rattle away. On second thoughts, don’t bother yourself.

    Woo there sailor. As wonderful and as interesting as your posts have been hitherto, you are in danger of steering towards the Isle of Dicks. Don't go there.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    It's the one that came to mind. I doubt not but that I could rattle off a dozen more with just a moment's thought.
    A dozen more unfair comparisons? Impressive. Rattle away. On second thoughts, don’t bother yourself.

    Is English your first language?
  • LeoLeo Shipmate
    O how I wish SusanDoris would condescend to return to this thread

    I don't - it's been going on for far too long and whenever it shows of dying, she comes back and there's another avalanche.
  • mr cheesy wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Well, just a minor point, faith in God is faith in the supernatural. FFS, are there supernatural bridges?
    There’s a growing stream of evangelical thought which considers the delineation between natural and supernatural as alien the the worldviews of the Old and New Testaments. I find it quite compelling but I still struggle not to think is those categories.

    On the other hand, so is heliocentrism alien to the Old and New Testaments. Indeed it is contraindicated. I do not for that reason eschew it.
    If you like, but it’s not really a fair comparison.

    It's the one that came to mind. I doubt not but that I could rattle off a dozen more with just a moment's thought.
    A dozen more unfair comparisons? Impressive. Rattle away. On second thoughts, don’t bother yourself.

    Woo there sailor. As wonderful and as interesting as your posts have been hitherto, you are in danger of steering towards the Isle of Dicks. Don't go there.
    Thanks for the advice. The Isle of Dicks is surrounded by the shallows of Mousethief. *Updates map*

  • Oh god, we've got a weight-throwing noob. Well this thread could take on a whole new life as this jerkoff tries to prove he can play with the big boys.
  • mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, we've got a weight-throwing noob. Well this thread could take on a whole new life as this jerkoff tries to prove he can play with the big boys.
    Someone tie me to the mast. I’m clearly in mild peril.

  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    No.

    GREAT peril...
    :grimace:

    That is, if s/he exists.

    IJ
  • magnilo wrote: »
    mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, we've got a weight-throwing noob. Well this thread could take on a whole new life as this jerkoff tries to prove he can play with the big boys.
    Someone tie me to the mast. I’m clearly in mild peril.

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • It's interesting to reflect on the wisdom of being careful for what one wishes.

    I must go up the hill to the shop now, having run out of peanuts.

    IJ
  • Park the car at the side of the road
    You should know
    Time's tide will smother you
    And I will too
    When you laugh about people who feel so
    Very lonely
    Their only desire is to die
    Well, I'm afraid
    It doesn't make me smile
    I wish I could laugh
  • mousethief wrote: »
    Oh god, we've got a weight-throwing noob. Well this thread could take on a whole new life as this jerkoff tries to prove he can play with the big boys.

    Ye gods, someone shoot me.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    Park the car at the side of the road
    You should know
    Time's tide will smother you
    And I will too
    When you laugh about people who feel so
    Very lonely
    Their only desire is to die
    Well, I'm afraid
    It doesn't make me smile
    I wish I could laugh

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • They just don't make 'em like ThomasDF anymore.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    Park the car at the side of the road
    You should know
    Time's tide will smother you
    And I will too
    When you laugh about people who feel so
    Very lonely
    Their only desire is to die
    Well, I'm afraid
    It doesn't make me smile
    I wish I could laugh

    Very interesting, and thank you for that.

    Do you think that perhaps you might be on the Wrong Thread?

    IJ

  • Best post ever.
  • And now the weather.
  • Bishops FingerBishops Finger Shipmate
    edited September 2018
    If it exists.

    Or if we do.

    IJ
  • Is there objective, non-faith-based evidence? That's what I look for.
  • The weather exists. Whether or not you believe in it.
  • Wesley J wrote: »
    The weather exists. Whether or not you believe in it.

    Weather happens surely. Can something as complex and ever-changing as weather ever be said to exist?
  • Hang on, why are we talking about the weather?
  • Why not? It makes a nice change from SusanDoris' woes. See it as an interlude.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    From nitwits and trolls and patronizing noobs, Good Lord, deliver us.
  • Rossweisse wrote: »
    From nitwits and trolls and patronizing noobs, Good Lord, deliver us.
    Why thank you. I do hate being patronised.

  • Hell is other people. And for sure, you all deserve each other.
  • Is it the name of Ikea furniture or a Death Metal Band?

    Because Ikea meatballs are hell. Because this thread needs meatballs and death metal.
  • Doc Tor wrote: »
    Hell is other people. And for sure, you all deserve each other.

    Sartre wouldn’t have said that had he spent less time with Simone deBeauvoir.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    From nitwits and trolls and patronizing noobs, Good Lord, deliver us.
    Why thank you. I do hate being patronised.

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    magnilo wrote: »
    Why thank you. I do hate being patronised.

    And so you do it to others because...?


  • Rossweisse wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Why thank you. I do hate being patronised.

    And so you do it to others because...?

    The wax plugs fell out and I just couldn’t help myself?

  • RossweisseRossweisse Hell Host, 8th Day Host
    magnilo wrote: »
    The wax plugs fell out and I just couldn’t help myself?

    Oh, surely you can come up with something cleverer than that.


  • magnilo wrote: »
    Rossweisse wrote: »
    magnilo wrote: »
    Why thank you. I do hate being patronised.

    And so you do it to others because...?

    The wax plugs fell out and I just couldn’t help myself?

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • You say judges, I say fig fauns.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    You say judges, I say fig fauns.

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
  • magnilo wrote: »
    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.

    Well, our judges seem pretty consistent on this one. 3.4, 4.1, 3.7, and a 9.8 from the Russian judge.
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