Let me make it clear; the Treeza Rant thread
Has this nation ever had a worse PM than the sanctimonious, two-faced, incompetent and deceitful person currently at No. 10?
I know it's a fine judgement, as there have been a few right idiots - and some frankly nasty ones - holding down the job in the past, but I've now got to the stage that I turn off the news rather than listen to her obfuscations.
Though in fairness to her, the rest of her party seem even worse, which perhaps is why she's still there. God save us all!
I know it's a fine judgement, as there have been a few right idiots - and some frankly nasty ones - holding down the job in the past, but I've now got to the stage that I turn off the news rather than listen to her obfuscations.
Though in fairness to her, the rest of her party seem even worse, which perhaps is why she's still there. God save us all!
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But, hang on, isn't Treeza a Christian?! (That's not a thinly-veiled have-a-go at Christians, just a full-on-go at one Christian.)
Unfortunately, as I see it, our good friend Corbyn should be having a real field day but he's not, not really. I can only think he's holding his fire. But he's also a Brexit person, so, as you say, 'GOD save us all'.
Any chance of an all-party group when this lot fails?
Apologies that this is not a post in the style of Hell.
Yes. Blair, for instance, was a sanctimonious, two-faced lying toerag that destroyed Iraq and destabilised the entire Middle East, leading to millions of deaths. Struggling to cope with leading the country through the insoluble problems of Brexit while also trying to hold together a party that's at war with itself is hardly in the same league.
What difference would an election make, other than to get a different set of fingerprints on the pig's ear?
True.
Much of the current mess is as a result of her bad calls. She invoked Article 50 before deciding what she wanted ... Drew a load of red lines before negotiations kicked off ... Had terrible advisers ... Played to the Brexiteer gallery instead of reaching out to moderates ... Appointed that thing as foreign secretary ... Called a snap election when there was no need then allied herself with the DUP ...
Ironically, if they'd gone for EEA / EFTA like Vote Leave implied they would during the Ref we'd have left the EU by now and be getting on with our lives.
I'll see you all on the March tomorrow.
But, despite Mrs. May's faults and failings, I do have a teensy-weensy drop of sympathy for her, and her impossible-to-solve-sensibly predicament.
That prat Cameron - the one with a face like a bare buttock with two glass eyes stuck on it - really needs to be sent post-haste to Siberia, or somewhere equally unpleasant.
My dear sister, bless her, is currently assembling documents for herself, myself, and our brother, to submit to the Government of the Republic of Ireland - we are entitled (via our mother and maternal grandfather) to Irish nationality.
At least we will still be able to call ourselves Europeans, as this abandoned off-shore island sinks beneath the waves it once thought it ruled. Alas, it'll be a long ferry crossing from Dublin to Calais with nowt in between....or maybe we'll be able to stop off in Kernow, Cymru, or Alba....
Alba and Ireland would be big enough to cope, but Kernow and Cymru might need some back-up.)
If there is one growth industry, it’s Irish citizenship....
I already have the shamrock lifebelt. Friends of mine (born in Ireland) are busy getting theirs, and their children (born in England) have or will apply. And these are the senior doctors, teachers, experts and creatives that any sensible country would be trying to retain. Others I know are already working abroad, and hope to use their employment and residency to gain citizenship of other European countries.
Mind you, Lord North lost us the American colonies, and look at the hell of a mess that’s ended up in.
My sister tells me that the Irish Republic's Department of Foreign Affairs website has recently become much more user-friendly than before, presumably because of the number clamouring for the Shamrock Lifebelt....
Pretty much this. Also, in answer to the “she’s in an impossible situation” defence - yes she is, but she put herself there. She must have known the tensions in the party over the EU and that Brexit was only likely to make them worse. And she chose to put herself right in the middle of them, either out of hubris (“I can solve these!”) or blindness to them.
And so many of her decisions, not least the triggering of Article 50 when she, the government and the country were nowhere near ready for it, and the stupid, stupid decision to call an entirely unnecessary general election, have made things worse for her, her party and the country.
I do try to be sympathetic to people, even people who’ve got themselves in a right mess, but I’m struggling here.
Treeza's government is a fiasco. Trouble is that I'm not sure if there's anyone else on the horizon who could do a better job.
You can blame me down in the Antipodes as well.
I can't imagine what it feels like needing to get Brexit Insurance in the form of EU passports. So sorry for you.
I shall just have to qualify for citizenship of elsewhere in the usual fashion (clinging to the underside of an outbound lorry).
Well, she goes to church every week, and she chose When I survey as her final Desert Island disc.
But both Mrs. Andras and I wonder how she can get through the General Confession week after week without her brain running out through her ears. Presumably it's all just words that 'don't apply to her,' like some Mafia boss who attends Mass religiously every week.
Yes she is worse. Because she is weak. And yes, there is no-one else in the party who wants to do the job (there are plenty who want it, for the kudos, they just don't want to actually do it. They are bone-idle to a man).
I think John Major was probably the most moral PM we have had since I started to vote. And he was fucking one of his collegues. But all of the others have fucked the country.
Clearly far worse than presiding over a policy of hostility towards immigrants that has resulted in large numbers of people being illegally expelled from the country or prevented from returning home after short trips abroad, given encouragement to the even farther right neo-nazi thugs physically and verbally attacking those they don't like. Or, being senior member of a government that introduced a disastrous revision of the welfare state that has left people in the greatest need in this country without money to pay rent, buy food or heat their homes, and quite literally killed some of those people. Or, being a senior member of a government that starved the nation of the investment needed to maintain essential infrastructure and expand our economy leaving the nations post 2008 recovery lagging significantly behind our European partners and other nations that didn't apply such a stupidly strict austerity policy.
On top of which her inept handling of a policy to leave the EU that hasn't received democratic support, either through Parliament or a proper referendum, relatively minor.
She is even fialing at the one real job she has - to stop the Tory party falling apart.
Banal, treacly-mouthed, self-seeking gobshites that they are....
O, sorry - TIACW.
Chamberlain was undoubtedly wrong in expecting appeasement to maintain peace in Europe (if indeed he did, rather than simply seeing it as an opportunity to buy more time to prepare for the inevitable coming European war - because Britain certainly made good use of that time), and British military commanders made significant errors - both in anticipating German tactics in the Battle for France, and Japanese tactics and capabilities in SE Asia (for which racism would certainly have been a factor). But, it's very harsh to dismiss what Chamberlain achieved in preparing Britain and empire for the coming war.
You watched The Bodyguard yet?
It's important to remember that Chamberlain wasn't alone in seeking appeasement. The ennobled members of his party were, if they could be, even worse. Many of them, like the Royal family would have been entirely happy with a Nazi Government. It's a very good job that Edward VIII chucked it in when he did.
It is like my India team: "We have done 90% of the coding" - that would be the easy bit, the bit that should have taken 10% of the time it did. And the last 10% will take 90% of the time.
We have been arguing about the Irish problem for a year and are no nearer sorting it. She is putting paint on the Titanic.
The leader of the opposition appears, meanwhile, to have forgotten what his job is and why he is in parliament. The dance they are doing deserves some scrutiny too.
Yep. Actually, my India team suffers the same problem.
He wants Brexit too. So cannot oppose it. Which is his job. He is so frustrating.
Gibralter seems to be irrelevant, but will also cause problems. As will a whole raft of other problems. It is like some of the software I have seen produced. Utterly unfit for purpose, and yet with Brexit we are still hurling headlong for the shit-pit.
Mind you, I've also read that a lot of CoE members also believe that Treeza is a model of what a good Christian should be like.
The Spanish would quite like Gib back, thank you very much, and the only thing that allows the UK to hold into the territory is that Spain can't blockade another EU country.
After March, that's not going to be the case, and I absolutely guarantee Spain will gradually ratchet up the border checks until they strangle Gibraltar into submission.
Because of course, without Tony Blair, the Americans would never have dreamed of invading Iraq and the various factions in Iraq would not have dreamed of going after one another.
The correct action for the UK in 2003 would have been what Harold Wilson did in the sixties when he regretfully explained to LBJ that he would have loved to commit troops to Vietnam, but unfortunately the British Armed Forces were washing their hair that evening. He deserves considerable blame for not doing that.
But the idea that Blair is personally responsible for the state of the Middle East is facile nonsense.
Trying to work out a Cameron/pigs ear joke but failing.
Agreed. But Cameron’s actions in calling for a referendum may be even more damaging long term.