You really cannot apologise, can you mr cheesy?
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This comes from The system is broken, the system needs to change thread, which has been derailed by a spat with @mr cheesy on insect studies, what he has read into other posters' comments and his accusations, starting on page 1 and running to page 3.
Starting from here @mr cheesy has continued to accuse a number of posters of saying things they did not say:
@quetzalcoatl asked for an apology here and got a non-apology a page later, in response to my post here @mr cheesy said:
None of us has actually said that there is any research based on insect splatter. What we have said is that there was an attempt at researching bug splatter a few years ago, based on observations. And that it wasn't followed through. You would think from your reactions that we are promoting it, when none of us were more than stating that lower levels of bug splatter had been observed and that an attempt was made to quantify it.
I can think of several reasons why the study wasn't followed up, other than results not being good. I suspect the RSPB did not get good enough results to continue funding that idea. Things like the Big Bird Watch are producing results from the number of surveys over a number of years. That one doesn't require much in resources, and has been established for years. A bug splat needed resources - the splatometers to start with - and time to be established and it wasn't so obviously linked to the charitable aims of the RSPB.
The other thing is that your certainty is misplaced: for all the reasons given by @"NOprophet_NØprofit"; insect studies have not been carried out to know what is going on other than in a few localised situations. But butterfly studies (regularly done, citizen science through the Woodland Trust and Butterfly Conservation) are observing catastrophic falls in some species, as are bee studies.
Starting from here @mr cheesy has continued to accuse a number of posters of saying things they did not say:
@quetzalcoatl asked for an apology here and got a non-apology a page later, in response to my post here @mr cheesy said:
I wasn't doubling down on this at all. I observed that the bug splatter experiment happened and it wasn't followed up. End of. And I'd like an apology too for your accusations. Brought here as I would prefer not to further derail that thread.The clue is that nobody repeated this experiment from 15 years ago.
You can keep doubling down or you can just accept that windscreen splatter observations are not taken seriously in the peer reviewed science.
None of us has actually said that there is any research based on insect splatter. What we have said is that there was an attempt at researching bug splatter a few years ago, based on observations. And that it wasn't followed through. You would think from your reactions that we are promoting it, when none of us were more than stating that lower levels of bug splatter had been observed and that an attempt was made to quantify it.
I can think of several reasons why the study wasn't followed up, other than results not being good. I suspect the RSPB did not get good enough results to continue funding that idea. Things like the Big Bird Watch are producing results from the number of surveys over a number of years. That one doesn't require much in resources, and has been established for years. A bug splat needed resources - the splatometers to start with - and time to be established and it wasn't so obviously linked to the charitable aims of the RSPB.
The other thing is that your certainty is misplaced: for all the reasons given by @"NOprophet_NØprofit"; insect studies have not been carried out to know what is going on other than in a few localised situations. But butterfly studies (regularly done, citizen science through the Woodland Trust and Butterfly Conservation) are observing catastrophic falls in some species, as are bee studies.
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I have long thought that mr cheesy has suffered from some form of physical discomfort, and piles (haemorroids) would be a possibility.
Chalfont St Giles (a small town in Buckinghamshire) = Piles.
Wife beater?
Gas heater?
Full litre?
Good metre?
I'm out. I don't actually know how this works, tbh.
Good for easing the constipation which lies at the root of the ailment....
Or as Polonius would say, a pain in the arras.
AFF
Just a little Hamlet humor. Very little Hamlet, and even less humor.
AFF
Middle class equivalent of the 'Farmer Giles'? As in 'he had a touch of the Farmer's, which rather aptly made him a pain in the arse to everyone else around him'?
FWIW: AIUI, Cockney rhyming slang is sort of a code:
stairs > apples and pears > pears
And then you say "pears" instead of "stairs".
YMMV, and apologies if I've gotten any of that wrong.
Thus, “I said to my china that my trouble had had me up and down the apples all day and now my plates were killing me”
trouble and strife = wife
apples and pears = stairs
plates of meat = feet
(Rough translation: Knock it off.)
DT
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Yeah, I know. Hence my examples.
Sorry, just saw this.
Gaaaa! Thanks for the correction. I do know that, but I put the wrong thing.
Thanks for the list in the spoiler box. I think I've heard of all but the last one.
Part of me is "party on, dudes!" and the more sober, hostly part of me is "don't make me come down here again"
So probably that...
We could set up a thread for mr cheesy and, say, Russ to play "Logical fallacy tennis" in which they bash ad hominems, appeals to emotion, Strawmen etc back and forth, ad nauseam, ad mortum, ad infinitum.
Probably an equus mortus.
And a bit further down on the same thread:
So @mr cheesy who made you judge and jury of this situation? What makes you think you would have been able to keep two children alive and fed properly in a war zone so that they didn't die of malnutrition or illness or prevented a vulnerable baby in a refugee camp from dying of pneumonia. A not very well baby that had almost certainly suffered malnutrition in utero, when pneumonia is one of the most common reasons for infant mortality in refugee camps
But of course you would have managed, you're a superhero!
Ah. I assumed it was a reference to the Ealing Classic Kind Hearts and Coronets.
Glad to see I'm not the only one whose had a strange encounter with monsieur le cheese.